Urgent Hotfix Required

VagabondAngel

Bloodvax wrote: »

LOL its a game!!!!! Your supposed to do stuff you cant do in real life. LOL if you want everything to follow rules then just I dunno do real life stuff.

Game
/geɪm/
noun

A form of competitive activity or sport played according to rules.

Is it me?

This would be a more appropriate description, currently:

Melee
/mɛleɪ/
noun

A confused fight or scuffle.

Do you also say "LOL" instead of actually laughing? You might want to look to that.

Halrloprillalar

TheGrandAlliance wrote: »

Halrloprillalar wrote: »

idk how, teach me!

Refer to above pictures.

So let me get this straight: you run your face into a wall, and mounting puts you across it?

Seems like tunneling needs to get fixed ASAP.

TheGrandAlliance

Halrloprillalar wrote: »

So let me get this straight: you run your face into a wall, and mounting puts you across it?

Seems like tunneling needs to get fixed ASAP.

If the wall is a corner usually yes... However if your computer has weak CPU you are more likely to crash your game.

Tintinabula

DC are still pouring into starter camp at EP on Wabbajack..almost 24 hours and "nothing" done.

TheGrandAlliance

@Tintinabula‌

http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/114247

Use this thread of mine and /returnfire

Tintinabula

I'm embarrassed for ZOS. These folks have made a mockery of what you think is an MMO..of what you like to call "innovative"..of your programmers..

what a sham.

siledre

I'm on Wabba, EP, and the nice thing about them hitting us there is that I got to do multiple player kill quests with the board for turn-in only feet away. I appreciate them allowing me to farm them. it will get fixed soon enough, for now, get a group and farm the fools that come into that area.

ZOS_BrianWheeler

Update: This will get fixed for both the Southern High Rock Gate and North Morrowind gate in the afternoon tomorrow (6/26/14). Some issues arose which pushed this to a later time window than we wanted.

TheGrandAlliance

ZOS_BrianWheeler wrote: »

Update: This will get fixed for both the Southern High Rock Gate and North Morrowind gate in the afternoon tomorrow (6/26/14). Some issues arose which pushed this to a later time window than we wanted.

Once again... only solving 1/4 of the problem. I can still get into scroll areas an and ninja-loot a scroll out of there alas...

Neferath

ZOS_BrianWheeler wrote: »

Update: This will get fixed for both the Southern High Rock Gate and North Morrowind gate in the afternoon tomorrow (6/26/14). Some issues arose which pushed this to a later time window than we wanted.

Many thx Brian.

Caduryn

@ZOS_BrianWheeler what about the 3fps after 5min Cyrodill bug?

InvictoNZ

Are they addressing the /stuck (or new exploit) scroll mechanic also? these 2 second captures are amazing.

Perphection

By now, no matter how much of a fanboy you might be of the Elder Scrolls franchise, you should realize that Zenimax is just incapable of producing a solid update.

I love the game, I have 0 faith in Zenimax.

ThyIronFist

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<div class="QuoteAuthor"><a href="/profile/540839/Perphection">Perphection</a> said:</div>
<div class="QuoteText">By now, no matter how much of a fanboy you might be of the Elder Scrolls franchise, you should realize that Zenimax is just incapable of producing a solid update.<br>
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I love the game, I have 0 faith in Zenimax.</div>
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<p>^^^^</p>

ThyIronFist

Oops. Well, that post didn't pan out right.

leewells

Bloodvax wrote: »

leewells wrote: »

Bloodvax wrote: »

leewells wrote: »

Welcome, please purchase a subscription for our new game, hAx0r5 Online!

Features

• Fellow hAx0r5 line up to exploit the latest exploits!
• Game mechanics will let you farm more AP!
• GM's will stay out of your way!
• And best of all, you can troll all those who follow the EULA!

^^ That is exactly what this game is becoming. And those whom are instant on following the EULA, well you can expect they won't be here much longer. So good luck measuring your hAx0r 5ki11z with each other.

What a time to be alive

Please, go play with a knife set in the middle of a busy intersection. What a waste of oxygen.

Got bored real fast. Knife was a little dull too.

Get at me bro

ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »

Tintinabula wrote: »

Blood you seriously don't get it. If you find a ZEN mistake and you "utilize" their mistake for your gain THAT is an exploit...no ifs ,ands or buts.

It's a very grey area. We acknowledge that the terrain issue is a bug that we need to fix, and are working on doing so as soon as possible.

Straight from the EULA:

C. use cheats, automation software (bots), hacks, mods or any other unauthorized third-party software designed to modify the Game or adversely impact any other persons playing of the Game or his/her experience of playing the Game;

D. exploit the Game or any of its parts, including without limitation the Game Client, for any commercial purpose (including without limitation renting, leasing or licensing the Game to others), including without limitation (a) for gathering virtual currency, items or resources for sale outside the Game; or (b) performing in-game services in exchange for payment outside the Game, e.g., power-leveling;

I'm unsure how you could get that in any more black and white. The grey area I see here is the way at which ZOS is handling the exploiters.

While people exploit and ZOS stands by and allows them to reap the rewards for exploiting, such as the massive AP from the farms they're setting up to kill players while still in load screens in an area they understand to be "safe" in the zone; more join in because everyone sees this as zero consequence FREE AP. The more you do this, the more people rush to find new exploits as soon as this is patched. The more that join in. The more EULA compliant subscribers stop subscribing. Eventually the only subscribers you will have left, are those whom frequent websites that do nothing but share the latest and upcoming exploit in the game.

ZOS: Either ENFORCE your EULA or CHANGE your EULA to a point it doesn't need ENFORCEMENT. Your SELECTIVE ENFORCEMENT is driving subs away. But its your business, do as you want.

Frenzypanda

It is still heartening to know there are people who knows what the heck is going on as opposed to devs that support such behaviour by not taking action. It is even worse that people that participate can troll openly on the forum. Well done. My opinion is that the dev grey area response clearly exhibits a lack of knowledge on what the actual complaint is about. So seriously if ZOS is not taking action on exploiters, I dont see why I need to continue to pay sub fee for a game likened to a china mmorpg that allows exploitation only with better graphics and more content. When I played DAOC we pay the exact same amount of sub fee and we dont see this crap happening.

Thor

leewells wrote: »

Straight from the EULA:
...

Paragraph D does not apply to the situation, but it's still pretty clear...

Few bans and issue would be solved in matter of minutes. Longer it takes, bigger the problem.
There are attempts to lure more players into this mess in attempt to get some form of safety in big angry mob.

leewells

Thor wrote: »

leewells wrote: »

Straight from the EULA:
...

Paragraph D does not apply to the situation, but it's still pretty clear...

Few bans and issue would be solved in matter of minutes. Longer it takes, bigger the problem.
There are attempts to lure more players into this mess in attempt to get some form of safety in big angry mob.

"any of its parts" seems to cover about anything to me. Did you construe that differently?

Also keep in mind the very next line stated, "including without limitation" which indicates that provision is not limited to only the items listed. Admittedly a better legal wording of that would have been, "including, but not limited to, ..."

ferzalrwb17_ESO

TL;DR ZOS endorses cheating.

leewells

What really needs to happen here is Mod authors need to jump into this EULA Enforcement and state that they are removing all their code until there is clear EULA enforcement. When everyone updates their minion plugins and sees everything is gone with messages that it will be back as soon as ZOS shows good faith efforts to enforce the EULA which will also help protect their own code, there will be enough people informed about this issue that ZOS will be forced to act.

http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/114317/mod-authors-please-read?new=1

scorpo46b16_ESO

I dont know if this is the method used to get in but I can report that a memory bug happens in lag that will make all keeps inisible to the player so they can walk through the gate or through a keep for that matter.

Also another way to get in is to use dragon leap or Ambush(teleport strike) works for both closed gates(have to have 1-2 players trigger the insta death charges) and probably works into spawn areas(I have not tried), especially if used in conjunction with the range increase morph of seige shield stacked on itself and keep reach passive from being high alliance rank.

But I doubt whoever is doing this is clever enough to use either of these things they probably are just using a cheat engine or found a way around the invisible walls.

demonlkojipub19_ESO

You guys at ZoS would have to be absolutely spineless you If you fail to enforce your ToS and don't ban every single one of these exploiters.

Tintinabula

We just killed a former DC Emp standing right on our transit at North gate.Wabbajack EP

P.S. I cant name and shame because that would go against the rules on this forum that provides everyone with a "fun" experience.(Too bad they don't have the same rules in game.)

Ifthir_ESO

Rylana wrote: »

Gaettusk wrote: »

@ZOS_JessicaFolsom‌

So why arent there GMs in-game atm banning exploiters like you guys did to PvE bots? It seems like ZoS doesnt care about PvP in this game.

This ^

Because, @Rylana‌, the number of people playing PvP is exponentially less than the people playing PvE.

I'm a hardcore PvP'er, but I'd like to think I've come to the conclusion that we aren't the main players ANY game caters to.

WebBull

siledre wrote: »

I'm on Wabba, EP, and the nice thing about them hitting us there is that I got to do multiple player kill quests with the board for turn-in only feet away. I appreciate them allowing me to farm them. it will get fixed soon enough, for now, get a group and farm the fools that come into that area.

This guy has the right idea until tomorrows patch. Please exploit DC tonight so I can fill my quests and get out of Lagodiil quickly.

Bloodvax

Nowhere in the EULA does it say messing with geometry LOL learn to read plz

Duskwolf

We just got the Scroll of Chim back on Wabbajack. Not 10 minutes later, DC stole it again by porting to our North Morrowind Wayshrine. But hey, it's not an exploit.

leewells

Bloodvax wrote: »

Nowhere in the EULA does it say messing with geometry LOL learn to read plz

You think so? You think that's not covered or an exploit?

Straight from the EULA:

C. (snip) adversely impact any other persons playing of the Game or his/her experience of playing the Game;

This is covered in elementary literature.

Tintinabula

Man you think you're so right,you're wrong.You are so far behind in the race that you think you're first place.You are the guy in the bar in the polyester suit shaking your head to the music who knows that none of the women speak to you cause you're "sooo hot".