So, projected winners of all campaigns (NA)

camaan

It cracks me up the DAOC references for 8v8. I ran in 8v8 guilds in DAOC. If you tell me that if the group size wasn't limited to 8 at the beginning of DAOC, that people would still be running 8, I'd laugh at you. People thinking ESO should be 4v4 or 8v8 is laughable.

A group is as many people you can fit on the screen and still see their health bars. Anything else is your personal bias from a previous video game that is irrelevant
to the current game you are playing. Yes the games resemble each other as far
as keep takes, siege and scrolls are concerned, but you are living in the past.

If you told me you want to fight group vs group in ESO, I am going to have a large group with as many people in it that can fit. If you bring less, you will just get rolled.

Lowbei

you obviously never ran in any decent 8v8 guilds with a zerg mentality like that.

camaan

zerg mentality? You are telling me if DAOC didn't have a 8 person cap to it and it had the same mechanics as ESO that there would still be such a thing as an 8v8 guild?

You sir are an idiot if you think so.
The only reason 8v8 existed is because groups were LIMITED to 8 people.
If 20 people were in a group, it would have been 20v20.

camaan

It's also funny how so many ex-DAOC players think they were the creme de la creme because they ran in an 8 man. I had 30k posts on VN and I've never heard of half of you guys or your guilds.

I could make jokes all day about how you guys were zergers because I had over 3500 solo kills on my Nightshade and you guys killed people with 8.

Lord_Draevan

camaan wrote: »

It's also funny how so many ex-DAOC players think they were the creme de la creme because they ran in an 8 man. I had 30k posts on VN and I've never heard of half of you guys or your guilds.

I could make jokes all day about how you guys were zergers because I had over 3500 solo kills on my Nightshade and you guys killed people with 8.

According to a few people on this thread, if you're more than 8 people, even if you're all in teamspeak and coordinated, you're automatically a skill-less zerg.
Anything to make their e-peens feel bigger.

TheHumanClone

camaan wrote: »

It's also funny how so many ex-DAOC players think they were the creme de la creme because they ran in an 8 man. I had 30k posts on VN and I've never heard of half of you guys or your guilds.

I could make jokes all day about how you guys were zergers because I had over 3500 solo kills on my Nightshade and you guys killed people with 8.

Please , tell me more about dAoC

Lowbei

camaan wrote: »

A group is as many people you can fit on the screen and still see their health bars.
If you told me you want to fight group vs group in ESO, I am going to have a large group with as many people in it that can fit. If you bring less, you will just get rolled.

no need for the butthurt, i simply stated that you obviously never ran in any decent 8mans if you feel that way

Rylana

arrrrrgh stahp arguing in mah threaddddd

so many notifications.

camaan

Lowbei wrote: »

camaan wrote: »

A group is as many people you can fit on the screen and still see their health bars.
If you told me you want to fight group vs group in ESO, I am going to have a large group with as many people in it that can fit. If you bring less, you will just get rolled.

no need for the butthurt, i simply stated that you obviously never ran in any decent 8mans if you feel that way

I'm sure you were the best 8v8 player to have graced DAOC with your presence.
In fact, because you can obviously tell my experience in DAOC from a few forum posts, I guess that means you probably invented 8 mans and never lost an 8v8 unless you were assjammed. And since I, with 30k posts on VN, have never heard of your guilds listed, I guess that means that you never lost because you would have QQ'd like a proper 8 man would.

Lowbei

all of my guilds were well known on merlin/killibury. perhaps you dont know of them because you never really competed there. and i never said i was the best 8v8 player, but you obviously wish i had to strengthen your rage.

i hope the nightshade wasnt your 8v8 toon, because that would be hilarious. what 8man did you run with?

camaan

I played on Guinevere which got clustered with Nimue and Perc and my NS was my main. I played more solo than I played 8 man. But at the end of the game, I was running with Meiva. I played Blademaster main assist, Enchanter in bomb groups with Nova, Animist and Druid in Hib. Warrior in Mid, Armsman in Alb.

But that doesn't matter because no matter what I type, there will be some sort of discredit to my skill or my back ground because that is how forums work.

Pancake-Tragedy

How do you take someone seriously when they have their entire MMO "resume" listed as their signature? They obviously think they are e-famous or something.

With that being said, if you are such a competitive pvp'r, why are you playing Elder Scrolls Online? This is probably the most casual pvp I've ever encountered.

Lowbei

skilled players would not have an attitude of "im gonna bring as many as i can and if you bring less you lose".

no need to get defensive if you dont care what others think

and pancake, listing toons in a sig is an oldschool pvp thing that you wouldnt understand, but ill educate you np.

when you have a lot of toons it helps others you may be discussing a fight with to know who they are talking to, without them needing to waste time explaining who they are.

you are correct, eso doesnt have much competition right now, but we like its system and are waiting it out for arenas to bring this competition.

camaan

I was a solo player playing 1 v zerg for most of my DAOC career. What you failed to comprehend with my statement is that if DAOC didn't have a group cap of 8, then the term 8v8 would have never existed.

If you want to be elitest in this game. Its group v group or group v zerg.
8 isn't the number. Groups are composed of more than 8 players.

Pancake-Tragedy

Lowbei wrote: »

and pancake, listing toons in a sig is an oldschool pvp thing that you wouldnt understand, but ill educate you np.

Is that right? So you are the only person that is an "oldschool" pvp'r? Should I put a PDF version of my MMO resume in my sig just like you? Will that make me the GOAT player ever?

Lowbei

... groups are comprised of whatever the game client says they are.

in daoc that number was 8

in eso that number is 4

theres always the option to field 24 if you exceed a "group" to become a "large (zerg) group", but thats not gvg

Lowbei

Pancake-Tragedy wrote: »

Lowbei wrote: »

and pancake, listing toons in a sig is an oldschool pvp thing that you wouldnt understand, but ill educate you np.

Is that right? So you are the only person that is an "oldschool" pvp'r? Should I put a PDF version of my MMO resume in my sig just like you? Will that make me the GOAT player ever?

you sound really jealous right now lol.

nobody cares what you do with your sig.

Pancake-Tragedy

Me? Jealous? No, I'm just your biggest fan.

camaan

Lowbei wrote: »

... groups are comprised of whatever the game client says they are.

in daoc that number was 8

in eso that number is 4

theres always the option to field 24 if you exceed a "group" to become a "large (zerg) group", but thats not gvg

I would disagree with you.
In DAOC, the MAX cap is 8.
In ESO, the MAX cap is 24.

I fail to see your logic.

pitdemon_ESO

ITT: people who thought they were something on softcore PVE servers in a long dead game

Lowbei

camaan wrote: »

Lowbei wrote: »

... groups are comprised of whatever the game client says they are.

in daoc that number was 8

in eso that number is 4

theres always the option to field 24 if you exceed a "group" to become a "large (zerg) group", but thats not gvg

I would disagree with you.
In DAOC, the MAX cap is 8.
In ESO, the MAX cap is 24.

I fail to see your logic.

a "group" in daoc was 8

a "group" in eso is 4

a "large group" in eso is 24

thus, a "group"vs"group" fight in eso is a 4v4

"warning, inviting another player will result in a large group and disable you from entering group content"

this isnt rocket science lol

camaan

That's cool. Keep rolling your 4 and everyone else in the game will keep rolling their full group and you can QQ until you quit lol

Lowbei

we usually roll about 6 since there no gvg competition anyway, and we dominate 40+ player zergs with no problem.

keep running with the zerg and thinking you are competing

Kajoh_Americano

Lowbei wrote: »

camaan wrote: »

Lowbei wrote: »

... groups are comprised of whatever the game client says they are.

in daoc that number was 8

in eso that number is 4

theres always the option to field 24 if you exceed a "group" to become a "large (zerg) group", but thats not gvg

I would disagree with you.
In DAOC, the MAX cap is 8.
In ESO, the MAX cap is 24.

I fail to see your logic.

a "group" in daoc was 8

a "group" in eso is 4

a "large group" in eso is 24

thus, a "group"vs"group" fight in eso is a 4v4

"warning, inviting another player will result in a large group and disable you from entering group content"

this isnt rocket science lol

Meh, all of this is irrelevant since it's borderline impossible to have a group of more than 16-20 players in the same group without having people starting to crash all over the place.

Lowbei

see i didnt even know that bug existed lol

zerger problems

Fuzzylumpkins

quakedawg_ESO wrote: »

DAOC is Dark age of Camelot. Fun times for the first 1.5 yrs despite the flaws. Different crowd back then ......with fewer choices.

How is 39 completely different classes, fewer options? The whole sell point to Dark Ages of Camelot was every realm had a varied selection of individual classes/ races dedicated just to that realm. None of the diluted crap we have now where everyone is offered the same crap regardless of your alliance.

The worst thing that happened to DAoC was not Trials of Atlantis, it was allowing the most thought out/ well executed RvR game in existence to run in the ground by the same moron running Zenimax. This time he was allowed to drive the game from launch instead of 2 years like he did with DAoC.

I still play it (DAoC). The RvR cannot be matched by any existing game. All this cap the flag and mirrored crap devs do now is just cash in cheap option to claim the game has PvP.

Fuzzylumpkins

camaan wrote: »

It's also funny how so many ex-DAOC players think they were the creme de la creme because they ran in an 8 man. I had 30k posts on VN and I've never heard of half of you guys or your guilds.

I could make jokes all day about how you guys were zergers because I had over 3500 solo kills on my Nightshade and you guys killed people with 8.

RR13 cleric, 12L6 Mins, 10L8 Valk (mid), 9L6 Valewalker(Hib)

Mostly small man or duo. I have no idea who you are. I still play. I bet anything you were one of those zerg running albs that leeched off players like Kzar that ran 200+ bgs. and- some of us are the Crem'e de' Le Crème, not because we ran 8s in Emain or Agramon, simply because we are better than you. And it obviously is not limited to just in video games. 3500 solo kills? LOL couldn't even hang around for the Lone title. Sobadsomad.


Why in the world is anyone in this thread acting like RvR in teso is even worth a crap? Run around with a few buddies spamming impulse= profit. I mean that is hard right? 5 piddlely little abilities, crap gear, crap stats, bugs and glitches galore and yeah cant forget to mention the awesome balance lol. There is nothing competitive about RvR in teso. Its a lag fest and who shoots through a wall faster than the other guy. Have fun , group or solo, or don't and don't log in. Hell forums are more fun for this game.

Lowbei

haha fuzzy just SoSd in here and started dominating, i love it.

Fuzzylumpkins

Lowbei wrote: »

haha fuzzy just SoSd in here and started dominating, i love it.

I your signature. Iseult> Killbury cluster> Ywain1> Ywain clustered. Valk was on Mordred, now also clusted

I just cannot let go of the RvR. No game has even come close in 13 years. Camelot Unchained though.... fingers crossed. Dirty Hib

Lowbei

Fuzzylumpkins wrote: »

Lowbei wrote: »

haha fuzzy just SoSd in here and started dominating, i love it.

I your signature. Iseult> Killbury cluster> Ywain1> Ywain clustered. Valk was on Mordred, now also clusted

I just cannot let go of the RvR. No game has even come close in 13 years. Camelot Unchained though.... fingers crossed. Dirty Hib

indeed! CU cant get here fast enough