So, projected winners of all campaigns (NA)

Rylana

AD will win four (Auriels Bow, Dawnbreaker, Hopesfire, and Skullcrusher)
DC will win three (Bloodthorn, Chrysamere, and Volendrung*)
EP will win one (Goldbrand)

Wabbajack is too close to call, but based on current trends is likely to go to DC for a final score of 4AD, 4DC, 1EP

umadreds trollface.jpg

Dont worry, we will spot you Scourge as a consolation prize.

=D

*Volendrung is technically not a lock yet as the point spread is less than 50k as of this post, but trends show there is zero chance of AD actually making a meaningful comeback on this campaign

Disclaimer: the 90 day campaigns were way too long, early AP generation exploits ruined the contest, and the only campaign that actually has population and ever mattered is Wabbajack anyway, but gg.

Avidus

Funny thing is, the guild that took scourge from AD, and gave it to EP, then moved to GB and took it for EP.

So EP will 100% always at least have 1 winning campaign.

Gaettusk

Inb4 your Wabba prediction turns into a "Dewey Defeats Truman" post.

SwampRaider

they are going to need more than 1 30 day campaign.

Leaok

Avidus wrote: »

Funny thing is, the guild that took scourge from AD, and gave it to EP, then moved to GB and took it for EP.

So EP will 100% always at least have 1 winning campaign.

Not exactly, EP was pretty much unchallenged and leading by a large margin before scourge was shut down as there was little to no AD or DC on Goldbrand since launch. When GA , Crows and 13th Legion came to Goldbrand in May things started to look better for DC. The fights with the guilds small man groups made the campaign fun and challenging, but once a player on EP reached the top and was unwilling to flip emp, EP lost all of the good players since they didn't have a chance to become Emp. Then EP started recruiting zergs from the forums to help them. DC was still holding its own even while outnumbered. At this point AD had no fight in them as they had even less numbers then DC. Then scourge was shutdown and another zerg guild joined and ruined the fun with overwhelming numbers.

Now the campaign is only used so that EP can join it to get bonuses for PvE and other campaigns.

The guesting system has pretty much ruined the server now.

Laura

all the mindless zombies went AD because there youtube heroes did (90% of them also home AB and guest wabba so they can assure they will have buffs going in) All day AD keep wabba locked and usually have at least medium in AB. Most of the time EP has wabba at high or medium (same with DC)

Pretty much anything AD does is null and bunk because they are just the zerg on 100% of the time flavor of the month faction. They can afford to spread out on multiple campaigns where EP can barely even fill one up (and usually dont)

EP has low numbers but so does DC so I'd say the only real clear winner is DC and this is coming from a EP player. EP doesn't know how to defend - at all.. its actually pretty embarrassing.

SwampRaider

@ZOS_BrianWheeler‌

wtb early campaign shutdown!

the.dzeneralb16_ESO

Laura wrote: »

all the mindless zombies went AD because there youtube heroes did (90% of them also home AB and guest wabba so they can assure they will have buffs going in) All day AD keep wabba locked and usually have at least medium in AB. Most of the time EP has wabba at high or medium (same with DC)

Pretty much anything AD does is null and bunk because they are just the zerg on 100% of the time flavor of the month faction. They can afford to spread out on multiple campaigns where EP can barely even fill one up (and usually dont)

EP has low numbers but so does DC so I'd say the only real clear winner is DC and this is coming from a EP player. EP doesn't know how to defend - at all.. its actually pretty embarrassing.

This. Except EP doesn't know how to attack either

Avidus

bbevier_ESO wrote: »

Not exactly, EP was pretty much unchallenged and leading by a large margin before scourge was shut down as there was little to no AD or DC on Goldbrand since launch. When GA , Crows and 13th Legion came to Goldbrand in May things started to look better for DC. The fights with the guilds small man groups made the campaign fun and challenging, but once a player on EP reached the top and was unwilling to flip emp, EP lost all of the good players since they didn't have a chance to become Emp. Then EP started recruiting zergs from the forums to help them. DC was still holding its own even while outnumbered. At this point AD had no fight in them as they had even less numbers then DC. Then scourge was shutdown and another zerg guild joined and ruined the fun with overwhelming numbers.

Now the campaign is only used so that EP can join it to get bonuses for PvE and other campaigns.

The guesting system has pretty much ruined the server now.

So many things wrong with your post.
1. Emp swapping = stupid behaviour, devaluing emperor to begin with. So leaving because you cannot beat a player on your own alliance is pretty silly.
2. EP did not recruit 'zergs' the Scourge server shut down, my guild voted on where we were moving to, and we came to GB.
3. We conquered GB, fast, barely any resistance. None from AD, and DC were not skilled enough to do any real damage.
4. When DC made their major come backs, they had invited other guilds to assist them (former guilds we used to fight against). And DC would try to rush emperor, and lose. This began happening on a daily basis, same time every day, same results.
5. DC quit the campaign because they could not emperor farm, nor could they capture the entirety of the campaign.
6. My guild never once had any more than 30 people, at the best of times, we mostly had around 12 during DCs silly charges.

If you want to debate this further, I could mention just the other day how 13th legion assaulted Fort Ash, and wiped on NPCs.

Do not call us a zerg because you can't beat us.

MarisGolding

Chrysamere DC was handed a victory by blue from other campaigns. Paper champions >.>

SwampRaider

MarisGolding wrote: »

Chrysamere DC was handed a victory by blue from other campaigns. Paper champions >.>

you can actually say that about A LOT of other campaigns of all factions. Guesting is rampant EVERYWHERE. It is gonig to be nerfed within the next few patches

#72hourlockout

Permafrost

Avidus, not only has your guild never been up to compete with us, Codex currently reports that our K/D ratio against you is staggering, with all of your kills coming inside towers. YOU should be the one who should tell truths about not being able to beat US. You've literally never defeated us in the open field, but you have been able to hang on with the aid of overpowered NPCs. Just last night, 5 of us wiped a force of 30 EP including members of your guild causing said force to retreat all the way into Roebeck not once, but twice.

I will, however, give a big shout out to Oza'Ka. Legitimately, the only EP on GB who I would accept into GA in a heartbeat. I don' know if he's guilded with you, but he's always in/near your groups. He's the truth.

bruceb14_ESO5

Our perceptions of the other side are sometimes quite off base. A small team can accomplish quite a bit. The comment earlier about an Emperor not giving up his spot....yuck. If the Emperor is my friend I'd take pride in keeping him/her there and if I'm on the other side, strategize to oust them.

Cody

5 ppl wiping 30? interesting. I wonder how you did it.

mjspnrb18_ESO

Permafrost wrote: »

Avidus, not only has your guild never been up to compete with us, Codex currently reports that our K/D ratio against you is staggering, with all of your kills coming inside towers. YOU should be the one who should tell truths about not being able to beat US. You've literally never defeated us in the open field, but you have been able to hang on with the aid of overpowered NPCs. Just last night, 5 of us wiped a force of 30 EP including members of your guild causing said force to retreat all the way into Roebeck not once, but twice.

I will, however, give a big shout out to Oza'Ka. Legitimately, the only EP on GB who I would accept into GA in a heartbeat. I don' know if he's guilded with you, but he's always in/near your groups. He's the truth.

#yawn... all I ever hear from you is QQ, if you're so good then why don't you win, AD guilds Pantheon and Alacrity are the only challenge I've ever faced, 7 Pantheon used to take out 100, 10 Alacrity took out 140, these are the people we fight, whilst you DC are the weeds in our backyard that we send people to deal with while we face the real competition, I will be the first to admit when someone can best my Guild and Pantheon and Alacrity have both done that, don't even bother replying to me cause I won't keep track of this

Thechemicals

cool thread. I thought Ep would have been a huge success in PvP considering that so many Americans loved the Nords....

SwampRaider

mjspnrb18_ESO wrote: »

Permafrost wrote: »

Avidus, not only has your guild never been up to compete with us, Codex currently reports that our K/D ratio against you is staggering, with all of your kills coming inside towers. YOU should be the one who should tell truths about not being able to beat US. You've literally never defeated us in the open field, but you have been able to hang on with the aid of overpowered NPCs. Just last night, 5 of us wiped a force of 30 EP including members of your guild causing said force to retreat all the way into Roebeck not once, but twice.

I will, however, give a big shout out to Oza'Ka. Legitimately, the only EP on GB who I would accept into GA in a heartbeat. I don' know if he's guilded with you, but he's always in/near your groups. He's the truth.

#yawn... all I ever hear from you is QQ, if you're so good then why don't you win, AD guilds Pantheon and Alacrity are the only challenge I've ever faced, 7 Pantheon used to take out 100, 10 Alacrity took out 140, these are the people we fight, whilst you DC are the weeds in our backyard that we send people to deal with while we face the real competition, I will be the first to admit when someone can best my Guild and Pantheon and Alacrity have both done that, don't even bother replying to me cause I won't keep track of this

since when can 10 people take out 140?

i've been in groups that have taken out 20 alacrity with 16 people. they must've lost some mojo since craglorn

Braidas

SwampRaider wrote: »

mjspnrb18_ESO wrote: »

Permafrost wrote: »

Avidus, not only has your guild never been up to compete with us, Codex currently reports that our K/D ratio against you is staggering, with all of your kills coming inside towers. YOU should be the one who should tell truths about not being able to beat US. You've literally never defeated us in the open field, but you have been able to hang on with the aid of overpowered NPCs. Just last night, 5 of us wiped a force of 30 EP including members of your guild causing said force to retreat all the way into Roebeck not once, but twice.

I will, however, give a big shout out to Oza'Ka. Legitimately, the only EP on GB who I would accept into GA in a heartbeat. I don' know if he's guilded with you, but he's always in/near your groups. He's the truth.

#yawn... all I ever hear from you is QQ, if you're so good then why don't you win, AD guilds Pantheon and Alacrity are the only challenge I've ever faced, 7 Pantheon used to take out 100, 10 Alacrity took out 140, these are the people we fight, whilst you DC are the weeds in our backyard that we send people to deal with while we face the real competition, I will be the first to admit when someone can best my Guild and Pantheon and Alacrity have both done that, don't even bother replying to me cause I won't keep track of this

since when can 10 people take out 140?

i've been in groups that have taken out 20 alacrity with 16 people. they must've lost some mojo since craglorn

I saw them wipe 60 once. They were all on horses at a resource and died so fast it was hilarious. But ya I've been in groups of equal number who've taken them out as well. They only seem to show up when you're about to cap a flag, or when 2 factions are fighting and one is about to take the keep.

Permafrost

mjspnrb18_ESO wrote: »

#yawn... all I ever hear from you is QQ, if you're so good then why don't you win, AD guilds Pantheon and Alacrity are the only challenge I've ever faced, 7 Pantheon used to take out 100, 10 Alacrity took out 140, these are the people we fight, whilst you DC are the weeds in our backyard that we send people to deal with while we face the real competition, I will be the first to admit when someone can best my Guild and Pantheon and Alacrity have both done that, don't even bother replying to me cause I won't keep track of this

I didn't QQ at all; someone needs to attend tutoring sessions for reading comprehension. What I did was more akin to bragging. As for Alacrity, we went 3-1 against them this week and then I think they logged/switched because they were expecting a farmable campaign ( So much for those Emperor bonuses, eh?

Leaok

Avidus wrote: »

bbevier_ESO wrote: »

Do not call us a zerg because you can't beat us.

This sums up my fight experience vs the EP on Goldbrand.
http://imgur.com/a/toCNv


*** These stats are since mid May when I installed Codex.
*** I have spent maybe 2 hours tops in any other campaign

Leaok

NookyZooky wrote: »

5 ppl wiping 30? interesting. I wonder how you did it.

How we did it is by calling targets, synergizing abilities and over extending the enemy.

james_vestbergb16_ESO

bbevier_ESO wrote: »

NookyZooky wrote: »

5 ppl wiping 30? interesting. I wonder how you did it.

How we did it is by calling targets, synergizing abilities and over extending the enemy.

No, how you did it was by running in a spam train of light armor destro/resto, just blobbing all in ur path. All "PvP" guilds do it.

Don't pretend to know anything about strategy just because you know how to run in a blob and spam.

Tired of hearing all these "cookiecutter" wielding PvP guilds claiming to be well organized and strategical...

bruceb14_ESO5

bbevier_ESO wrote: »

NookyZooky wrote: »

5 ppl wiping 30? interesting. I wonder how you did it.

How we did it is by calling targets, synergizing abilities and over extending the enemy.

Recruit some help. 5 people on the campaign?

Leaok

james_vestbergb16_ESO wrote: »

bbevier_ESO wrote: »

NookyZooky wrote: »

5 ppl wiping 30? interesting. I wonder how you did it.

How we did it is by calling targets, synergizing abilities and over extending the enemy.

No, how you did it was by running in a spam train of light armor destro/resto, just blobbing all in ur path. All "PvP" guilds do it.

Don't pretend to know anything about strategy just because you know how to run in a blob and spam.

Tired of hearing all these "cookiecutter" wielding PvP guilds claiming to be well organized and strategical...

Wow you act like you know us but if you did you would know we don't have a SINGLE destro staff user in PvP from our guild.

Permafrost

I love people who don't have a clue. Indeed, we don't run a single destro staff.

Leaok

bruceb14_ESO5 wrote: »

bbevier_ESO wrote: »

NookyZooky wrote: »

5 ppl wiping 30? interesting. I wonder how you did it.

How we did it is by calling targets, synergizing abilities and over extending the enemy.

Recruit some help. 5 people on the campaign?

We only had 5 at the time. Outside of 8pm -midnight eastern DC numbers normally look like this. During the time frame of 8pm-midnight DC numnbers look like the following.

Ganked Again: 8-12 people
Crows: 2-5 people
13th: 5-10 people

Except on Tuesday which is the 13th pvp night and they have around 30 people total.

Now before Scourge shutdown EP ran about 30 during that time frame and DC would have a chance. After the Scourge shutdown EP now can field twice that number and more.

End of campaign is soon, no reason to recruit more, just tired of the EP on the server acting like they are the best players in the game. When most of the time the only reason they are keeping any territory is due to the fact its hard taking keeps when extremely outnumber now that the guards are buffed. That and they have large numbers out side of the normal hours AD and DC can field players.

I believe my Codex numbers show who really gets farmed on our server

bruceb14_ESO5

No fun to get farmed but a lot of fun to turn tables on someone getting complacent or cocky. Hope the new campaigns will have plenty of opportunity to switch between campaigns to help.

AnteCoyote

Avidus wrote: »

Funny thing is, the guild that took scourge from AD, and gave it to EP, then moved to GB and took it for EP.

So EP will 100% always at least have 1 winning campaign.

EP had been in the lead on Goldbrand since the second week. The lead became extra massive due to weeks of inactivity from both AD and DC after many of their guilds left for other campaigns early on. It then became an emperor farming hotspot for EP, who would take everything and camp the gates, scaring even more people off. DC then got their own band of emperor farmers and made a bit of a comeback after being by far the most underpopulated alliance. It wasn't until one EP emperor decided to not give up his emperorship that that guild left and by then their lead was so absolutely massive that neither of the other alliances had a chance, even though they had both become more active.

The guild from Scourge didn't win the campaign for EP. They were already the winner.

Zintair

AnteCoyote wrote: »

Avidus wrote: »

Funny thing is, the guild that took scourge from AD, and gave it to EP, then moved to GB and took it for EP.

So EP will 100% always at least have 1 winning campaign.

EP had been in the lead on Goldbrand since the second week. The lead became extra massive due to weeks of inactivity from both AD and DC after many of their guilds left for other campaigns early on. It then became an emperor farming hotspot for EP, who would take everything and camp the gates, scaring even more people off. DC then got their own band of emperor farmers and made a bit of a comeback after being by far the most underpopulated alliance. It wasn't until one EP emperor decided to not give up his emperorship that that guild left and by then their lead was so absolutely massive that neither of the other alliances had a chance, even though they had both become more active.

The guild from Scourge didn't win the campaign for EP. They were already the winner.

We had Goldbrand locked down a couple weeks in before we moved to Wabbajack. Interesting claim that anyone won it when we kicked TombFox and their AD guild off the campaign when they rage quit. Then the campaign went dead and we went to Wabbajack to fight the DC zerg there. Been having a blast ever since.


AND LOL at DC winning Wabbajack. I'd make sure I stay far away from Vegas or betting because you couldn't be more wrong.

DC needs 30+ PPT Every single cap for the rest of the campaign to win. Currently during primetime they are usually LOSING points.

We are fluxuating between a 7-10k lead on them over the past two weeks. There's 11days left.

Not gonna happen nor are the guilds that represent there going to let it happen.

Avidus

I love the DC defending themselves with so called 'Skill'

We our TS turn into meaningful instruction, then I will say what you have is skill.
Currently the level of competition you bring us to is basically us messing around, knowing we do not have to try, because as soon as we beat you once, you all RQ and try again the following day.
If you were so good, you would own the server.
Also consider we let you have your starting keeps. Sometimes we take them because you misbehave though, but we don't defend them + leave walls broken.
P.S. We never have 30 people, ever.

also @AnteCoyote‌ I am not referring to that scoreboard, my fault, I should have clarified that, EP had a massive lead before we entered the campaign.
I am referring to map control.

Izatar

Rylana wrote: »

early AP generation exploits ruined the contest

This is categorically untrue. You could say the perception of AP generation exploits. The fact is that the early 'exploits' only made those guys a couple hundred thousand AP. Compared to overall scores after 90 days this is nothing. NOTHING.

But people need to find something to blame other than themselves.