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Re: Update 50 PTS – Week 2 Summary
Why no WW nerfs so far? Its heavily (which puts it lightly) overperforming in pvp atm. Youll create worse balance than subclassing ever did if you release it like that and that is coming from someone who despises subclassing more than anything.
Dueling is like .05% of PvP
Re: Can we please have some "down time"?
SilverBride wrote: »PoveusRonin wrote: »So, the engagement system means the 1000's who are happily playing and not on the forums should have everything changed cause a small percentage of people who use the forums agree with 1 post?
How do we know there are 1000's happily playing if they aren't here telling us they are? They may be just as burned out as many others are.
Well, at this very second there are 11K people reading the ESO reddit, and there are tons of topics about all kinds of things and not rally a focus or care at all about the Golden Pursuit.
We really are a very small part of the ESO community. I kind of like the forums, but I have gotten to the point where I recognize a lot of users by name since it's not that many people. Going to other forums can show way different perspectives than on here. Like, I'm truly surprised about what gets 1K+ upvotes over there.
I've looked at the ESO posts on Reddit and without getting into why I will just say I don't hold much confidence in what is being posted there.
Re: Is it time to get rid of roles on Dungeon Finder? (At least for normal mode)
No. This would make the speed runner problem even worse. And what if you get 4 lvl 15s?
I've had runs where I was the only player in the dungeon with CP, and have talked both healers and tanks through some of the basics of those roles. I've been both the tank and healer (at the same time) with 3 non-CPs learning what a light attack is while in a random normal.
Despite random normals being used as a speed run transmute farm for many players, they still play an important role for everyone else.
I've had runs where I was the only player in the dungeon with CP, and have talked both healers and tanks through some of the basics of those roles. I've been both the tank and healer (at the same time) with 3 non-CPs learning what a light attack is while in a random normal.
Despite random normals being used as a speed run transmute farm for many players, they still play an important role for everyone else.
Vengeance Dungeons? 🤣ShutUpitsRed wrote: »Normal dungeons should have template builds or at least less complex builds; it's unfair that sweaty PvE mains rush ahead doing 200k dps and leave normal players in the dust and mess up their quests and such.
Re: why make subclassing if passives work only with pure class?
Renato90085 wrote: »No,You only 12 slot can put skill,so subclass is a “free give up terrible line and take all over power thing”system and you can’t say shadow skill have 2more sec work time or every shadow give you 3%max health is better than 12%crit dmg or 4k pen passive for dps
Because you just lost useless skill and terrible passive to swap better one
this is where u lost the plot cause of this:
Increases your Weapon and Spell Critical ratings by 438 for each Assassination ability slotted.
u would be right if the passive would work without this (for each Assassination ability slotted), in other words u would be right if they wouldn't rely on class skills being slotted just locket like this:
Increases your Weapon and Spell Critical ratings by 2629.
cause u can have 2 assassinate skills on ur bar, but as pure build u can have 4 or even 5, so huge power difference, and huge loss for subclass sins the crit damage relies on slotted class skills
Sugram22
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Re: why make subclassing if passives work only with pure class?
Necrotech_Master wrote: »the reason they are adding class passives in the first place is to balance pureclass builds with subclassed builds
subclassed builds are generally stronger because you can basically stack 3 tank, 3 healer, or 3 DPS skill lines for more efficacy
the pureclass builds are weaker as most classes are designed around the 1 tank, 1 heal, 1 dps skill lines, so if your dps on a pure class, if you were trying to min/max you would effectively be weaker than doing a subclass
the class refreshes they are doing are to basically also help pureclass builds, by basically mixing up the tank/heal/dps skills amongst the lines instead of heavy focusing in each line, and then the class masteries on top of that are to also help alleviate the difference in power with subclassing
as for all the zos balancing, some of that definitely leaves a lot to be desired due to the fact that almost everything they put out initially ranges from borderline to egregiously OP
Necrotech_Master wrote: »the reason they are adding class passives in the first place is to balance pureclass builds with subclassed builds
subclassed builds are generally stronger because you can basically stack 3 tank, 3 healer, or 3 DPS skill lines for more efficacy
the pureclass builds are weaker as most classes are designed around the 1 tank, 1 heal, 1 dps skill lines, so if your dps on a pure class, if you were trying to min/max you would effectively be weaker than doing a subclass
the class refreshes they are doing are to basically also help pureclass builds, by basically mixing up the tank/heal/dps skills amongst the lines instead of heavy focusing in each line, and then the class masteries on top of that are to also help alleviate the difference in power with subclassing
as for all the zos balancing, some of that definitely leaves a lot to be desired due to the fact that almost everything they put out initially ranges from borderline to egregiously OP
yea no, actually pure class is stronger cause class passives rely on class passives being slotted, u loose a lot when u take away class skills from slots, and subclassing wont make up for the loss, have 2 sorcerer skills and 2 warden skills and one inner light or camo hunter and no second subclass skills slotted, or pure sorc 4 skills and camo hunnter/inner light and sorc gets more boost to damage then the combo
that's why i called it low key scam and said the passives need subclass effects/bonuses to make up the loss
only exemption is pet build, if u use pets of all 3 pet classes this is only one that is stronger then pure class
Sugram22
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Re: Rant time, what about Vampires?
Vampire has been op for a long, long time because of the undeath passive. They deserve to get a rework yea and I am sure they will, but one patch iteration of not being meta is honestly a breath of fresh air.
Re: 🚨Werewolf NERFS Incoming on PTS Week 3🚨
It’s unfortunate that we’re still listening to nerf cries in 2026 instead of having things meet each other at the peak.
Insane to think this is a result of Dueling…
Dueling has been a joke form of content since 2023, we should not be balancing around it when it has not been close to balanced for years.
Insane to think this is a result of Dueling…
Dueling has been a joke form of content since 2023, we should not be balancing around it when it has not been close to balanced for years.
Re: SUPRISE ! People dont like VENGEANCE
moderatelyfatman wrote: »Players want to play Vengeance. Not test it.BardokRedSnow wrote: »People just don't want to play it.
Relax, in a few days you'll have your ball groups and proc sets back.
Despite being a Vengeance hater, I want a permanent Vengeance.
The game needs a beginner zone for new PvPers and casual players who don't want to spend all their time worrying about their builds or how to counter gankers or ball groups. We also need a beginner zone where PvErs can level up their alliance skill lines.
So I want a permanent Vengeance where newer PvPers and PvErs can get their feed wet in PvP. But Greyhost (and Blackreach) should be the premier PvP zones where Vengeance players graduate to if they want something more challenging.
Make Vengeance the best it can be, but not as a replacement for Greyhost or Blackreach.
Honestly, no, people forget so easily.. that is NOT what Vengeance is about. It is not being built as an on ramp beginner pvp mode, it’s been built because the devs refuse to try fixing performance in regular ruleset Cyro. It’s PvP, someone name a game where the goal is to kill other players, but do it nicely? That is not a thing, it will not work that way, I mean I’m confused at this point what people think Cyrodiil is supposed to look like. What I am certain about is that Vengeance goes against everything related to ESO, it strips your character of everything except cosmetics, there is zero investment into it, it’s lazy, unimaginative, and doesn’t capture what ESO is or where it appears to be going. We have all these new fresh skills and this and that, but the PvP community gets a mode forced on us where we can’t even use said skills.
So no, Vengeance is garbage, the best it can be would be to never come out of the box.
SneaK
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Re: Is it time to get rid of roles on Dungeon Finder? (At least for normal mode)
Normal dungeons should have template builds or at least less complex builds; it's unfair that sweaty PvE mains rush ahead doing 200k dps and leave normal players in the dust and mess up their quests and such.
Re: 14 hour maintenance on Monday? Did I read that right?
MorallyBipolar wrote: »It's early and haven't had coffee yet, but doesn't the announcement for PC NA say 3am to 5pm? Isn't that 14 hours and basically shutting down the NA server for most of the day?
Yes you did. 14 glorious hours of ZOS 'working' to make ESO even better than it already is - which is the greatest MMO EVER created. Sure, they could just do a short one hour restart of the servers like every other MMO does but they choose not to and instead give us, the players, the BEST service of ANY MMO ever made!
So, relax and enjoy those wonderful 14 hours and be assured that when they come back up and the game is available again absolutely NOTHING will be wrong with the game. EVERYTHING will be perfect and we can rejoice as we play the BEST MMO currently on the market.
Horace-Wimp
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