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Re: U50 Feedback Thread for Combat Refresh: Werewolf
So under normal conditions in normal fights, WW does 4-6k like every other sweaty player in duels has been doing for the past X years. Seriously doubt the missing WD will turn 4-6k dps into 10k. This clearly tells me the Sorc/WW interaction is the problem.I did 4k DPS vs the Warden
Pelican here on a better build with more WW experience pulling 6k+ DPS
Exactly what the issue is, the interaction with the sorc passives that enables this. Decimus posted a very insightful comment and solution in this thread that sums it up perfectly. He has over 10k hours in the game and plays everything in pvp, including werewolf and does more than duel, he does outnumbered open world and battlegrounds. I value his non biased feedback more than most players in here.
Re: Removing Map Based Leads?
Oh I have needs for that gold pile and the window could be fun too.
Not going to hold my breath yet. If they are tied to Glenumbra maps, all that will happen is that glenumbra maps will shoot up in price, and I still won't be able to afford them.
Hopefully they can be farmed some other way (stealing/looting etc).
The one lead that I found for the Armory was from a Thieve's Trove in Glenumbra. So there's a good chance the other parts will drop from other nefarious activities in the zone. Could also be tied to Hew's Bane activities too, since the leads are excavated there. I would expect some to drop from delve and WBs, in keeping with what we saw with the other multi-part crafting stations.
There are new "Favors" and random "Incursions" being added with U50. Perhaps those could be sources for the tapestry, window and stele leads.
The Zenithar Event is also currently on the PTS, so it's also possible that the "Zenithar Devotional Stele" could come from the event activities, but I really hope not. If it's a rare drop from a short-time event, that could further complicate collecting the codex required to purchase additional copies. Edited to add: Lead for Zenithar Devotional Stele dropped from the Glenumbra World Bosses located at The Wolf's Camp
Additional Note: It took two times killing the WB to get the first lead and another four times killing them to get the second lead.
If anyone else has been spending time on the U50 PTS, have you found any leads?
Re: U50 Feedback Thread for Combat Refresh: Werewolf
Been afk for a while, jumped on pts to test some werewolf pve dps.
Pure:
DK: 140k
Sorc: 137k
Warden: 135k
NB: 132k
Templar: 130k
Necromancer: 122k (poor pure passives)
Arcanist: 122k (poor pure passives)
Subclassing:
130k~ with various skill line mixes
Pure:
DK: 140k
Sorc: 137k
Warden: 135k
NB: 132k
Templar: 130k
Necromancer: 122k (poor pure passives)
Arcanist: 122k (poor pure passives)
Subclassing:
130k~ with various skill line mixes
Re: U50 Feedback Thread for Combat Refresh: Werewolf
Doesn't need to be that. Could make it mag/stam cost only (gets rid of the degenerate BfB interaction). Could give WW its own unique Class Mastery (also balances WW across classes this way). I agree Sorc Mastery shouldn't be nerfed at all, just those interactions.If Werewolf breaks it, as is abundantly clear to everyone by now, then maybe indeed the only way is to make it only work with class skills.
I dislike this, because I personally depend on this off heal. I do not have 3 dots, as I play a traditional mag sorc with wards instead. So losing this heal at least on my class skills would be horrible. The primary healing actually comes from non-class actions for me. (As Streak currently does not work with it)
Ironically you have the same people to thank for that that complained about DK getting buffs and now complain about werewolf getting buffs - Hardened Ward heal was absolutely fine in the context of subclassing (DK actually has this with Volcanic Ward now, yet no one even uses it) but it was nerfed due to very misguided feedback that didn't factor in reality.
I also would love shieldstacking playstyle to be more viable compared to playing sorcerer the same way you play literally any other build (i.e. build tanky with HoTs, burst heal back bar), but that has sadly not been the case since the Hardened Ward nerf.
Hopefully they do something about that in the sorcerer rework later this year!
Decimus
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Re: U50 Feedback Thread for Challenge Difficulty
So, I went to the dwemer public dungeon in Vvardenfel, and have more thoughts. Some fights were a lot more fun, particularly fights with many enemies, having to take out weaker targets to take them out of the fight while dodging the heavy hits of the larger constructs. Those fights felt a lot more enjoyable than before, and I even did the public even there and had a good time. But again, some bosses are designed around just pew pewing with light attacks, and yes, I know people will say "but you wanted harder fights", but you could have enemies just randomly kill the player instantly, it'd be harder, but not really enjoyable. I've said this for years that the most dangerous enemies in this game are the ones who don't faff about with special attacks and just use basic attacks, and the one giant dwemer spider boss in that public dungeon was the example I wanted to bring up here, yes my build needs to be optimized for the higher damage, but I feel to much of the threat from enemies just comes from light attacks, and not what the enemies themselves actually do/are.
Like, a necromancer is more dangerous just shooting you with his staff than conjuring melee based minions, an archer is better flicking shots at you rather than taking aim, and enemy tanks are better off just smacking you around rather than doing anything to help their allies. If there's a way to make enemy special attacks more weighted for fights, so what the enemies more uniquely do can shine more, that'd likely help, because right now the routine of stunning everything and killing most of the threats before they can respond is often the most productive, because if you don't your main hurdle is just the enemies basic attacks, everywhere, regardless of what you're fighting.
Like, a necromancer is more dangerous just shooting you with his staff than conjuring melee based minions, an archer is better flicking shots at you rather than taking aim, and enemy tanks are better off just smacking you around rather than doing anything to help their allies. If there's a way to make enemy special attacks more weighted for fights, so what the enemies more uniquely do can shine more, that'd likely help, because right now the routine of stunning everything and killing most of the threats before they can respond is often the most productive, because if you don't your main hurdle is just the enemies basic attacks, everywhere, regardless of what you're fighting.
CP5
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Re: U50 Feedback Thread for Combat Refresh: Werewolf
You keep name dropping Pelican for credibility, so why don't you ask him what it was like fighting me a decade ago when we spent hundreds of hours practicing against each other.Also, you are treading into topics you have zero knowledge about
I'm attempting to extrapolate dueling performance to open world. You're still only talking about duels. How do you think WW fares against ranged focus fire in open world?
xylena
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Re: U50 Feedback Thread for Combat Refresh: Werewolf
So under normal conditions in normal fights, WW does 4-6k like every other sweaty player in duels has been doing for the past X years.
Also, you are treading into topics you have zero knowledge about. I have spent a considerable amount of time dueling in Stormhaven on PC NA and I have NEVER seen your name there. You clearly do not know what a normal DPS value looks like in a duel, nor do you know what's bad or unhealthy DPS. So let me give you some baseline DPS values going forward so we can stop spewing false information:
Bad DPS:
<2k for burst builds
<3k for pressure builds
With this DPS, the only people you're going to kill are complete newbies. If you consistently pull <2k DPS, then there are only 2 scenarios:
1) Your opponent's pressure is so great that you're permanently stuck on back bar.
2) You genuinely have bad mechanics
I have done <2.5k DPS before on my burst build, but that was against a full cancer build with 7k+ DPS. I was basically stuck on back bar 80% of the fight trying to survive. Most people who do <2k-3k DPS generally fall into the 2nd category.
1) Your opponent's pressure is so great that you're permanently stuck on back bar.
2) You genuinely have bad mechanics
I have done <2.5k DPS before on my burst build, but that was against a full cancer build with 7k+ DPS. I was basically stuck on back bar 80% of the fight trying to survive. Most people who do <2k-3k DPS generally fall into the 2nd category.
Average DPS:
2k - 2.5k for burst builds
3.5k - 4k for pressure builds
This is where the majority of the playerbase sits at. You have just enough damage to kill other average players, but not enough to kill better ones. The only exception is a pure burst build, which often deals around 3k - 3.5k DPS but can still have the potential to 100-0 someone. The requirement is that you must have exceptional mechanics to kill better players.
Good DPS:
2.5k - 3.5k for burst builds
4k- 4.5k for pressure builds
If your DPS falls in this range, you're above average. Generally, you will win 6-7/10 of your fights with this kind of DPS (8-9/10 if you have exceptional mechanics). The people you're going to lose to are:
1) Those with significantly more DPS
2) Those better than you
3) Those outplaying you
This category is where average players with pressure duel builds and top tier ones with burst builds live. The DPS advantage of pressure duel builds often allow average players to achieve greater DPS than their mechanics alllow, while top-tier players make up for the lack of DPS with their mechanics.
This is where I normally sit at. My burst build can consistently deal 3.5k-4.5k DPS to most people if I weave perfectly (even exceeding some people on pressure builds), but I don't have enough pressure to push past 4.5k unless my opponent is extremely squishy.
1) Those with significantly more DPS
2) Those better than you
3) Those outplaying you
This category is where average players with pressure duel builds and top tier ones with burst builds live. The DPS advantage of pressure duel builds often allow average players to achieve greater DPS than their mechanics alllow, while top-tier players make up for the lack of DPS with their mechanics.
This is where I normally sit at. My burst build can consistently deal 3.5k-4.5k DPS to most people if I weave perfectly (even exceeding some people on pressure builds), but I don't have enough pressure to push past 4.5k unless my opponent is extremely squishy.
Excellent DPS:
4k - 4.5k for burst builds
5k - 5.5k for pressure builds
If you're in this category, then you will win 9/10 of your duels. This is where the top 1% of duelers are at. Go to Stormhaven and you'll maybe find 1-2 people who can achieve this level of DPS.
To achieve this stage, you must have excellent mechanics and a min-maxed build partly specced for dueling. It doesn't necessarily have to be 100% a dueling build, but the stats on it should be very high and maximized, and parts of the skills/gears should lean towards 1v1s. Something like Zaan/Essence Thief/Rallying Cry/Monomyth can easily achieve >4.5k DPS with top-tier mechanics. Some classes can make it easier to reach this DPS (DK for example), but you'll still need very good weaving/rotations to consistently pull off 5k- 5.5k DPS.
I sometimes reach 5k DPS on my burst build, but only if my opponent is extremely squishy.
To achieve this stage, you must have excellent mechanics and a min-maxed build partly specced for dueling. It doesn't necessarily have to be 100% a dueling build, but the stats on it should be very high and maximized, and parts of the skills/gears should lean towards 1v1s. Something like Zaan/Essence Thief/Rallying Cry/Monomyth can easily achieve >4.5k DPS with top-tier mechanics. Some classes can make it easier to reach this DPS (DK for example), but you'll still need very good weaving/rotations to consistently pull off 5k- 5.5k DPS.
I sometimes reach 5k DPS on my burst build, but only if my opponent is extremely squishy.
Top-tier DPS:
>5.5k to <6.5k
If you have this DPS, then congratulations, you're in a very small group of duelers who barely lose. The only losses you take are from getting outplayed by someone on or better than your skill level AND with similar DPS. Most Stormhaven duels feel pretty boring for you.
To achieve this level, you must have nigh-perfect weaving and a min-maxed build mostly specced for dueling. Your skills and gears should be used strictly for 1v1 fights. This is where you will see builds incorporate several proc sets and duel skills (like Trap Beast, Unstable Core, etc.)
To achieve this level, you must have nigh-perfect weaving and a min-maxed build mostly specced for dueling. Your skills and gears should be used strictly for 1v1 fights. This is where you will see builds incorporate several proc sets and duel skills (like Trap Beast, Unstable Core, etc.)
Uncounterable DPS:
>6.5k
At this stage, you don't lose. Most fights last less than 30 seconds, with some taking as little as 5 seconds. Fights at this stage become a healing check for your opponent. People simply do not have the healing or defense to survive your damage at all. The only losses you incur are from self-mistakes, nothing more. People could be doing their absolute best and you would still obliterate them.
To achieve this stage, you need to have nigh-perfect mechanics and a build purely specced for dueling. However, some builds are just so cancer than you only need to have decent mechanics and still pull 6.5k+ DPS. Pyrebrand/Rele DK is a prime example.
To achieve this stage, you need to have nigh-perfect mechanics and a build purely specced for dueling. However, some builds are just so cancer than you only need to have decent mechanics and still pull 6.5k+ DPS. Pyrebrand/Rele DK is a prime example.
The highest DPS build I've fought against before U49-U50 was Pyrebrand/Rele DK, reaching 7k DPS. That build had 29k HP and 4 damage CPs. U50 WW is almost reaching that DPS with 40k HP, no class mastery passives and the 33% WD modifier. To claim that WW is somehow similar to builds in previous patches is an absurd statement.
hoangdz
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Housing Wishlist: A fix for tab-tab-tab-tab-tab-tab-tab-tab-tab-tab
Explained here + video example at the top + possible solutions at the bottom:
🌜⭐ Tab Tab Tab Tab Tab - ESO Housing UI/UX Frustration & Possible Solutions ⭐🌛
This is a problem in just about every build, as explained above.
But here's yet another example (in addition to those in that post) that I hope will illustrate the issue – good luck selecting a specific pumpkin out of dozens on this creature! T_T IYKYK.
(From my Halloween build)
MoonPile
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Re: Wayshrine Navigation scrolls misleading or bug?
The description needs updating. On PC it also only does the current zone. If I had known that I would've just used my first one on Coldharbour like the rest.
