Only explanation for changes made

Using overload to its full potential requires ulti micro-management (more so next patch with sources of ultigen nerfed across the board) and keeping track of off-balance windows.

The rationale behind the stream of 'peel-backs' and 'tone-downs' to the other mythic whose name I won't mention because I don't want to summon the fellow players that are tasked with fuelling the 'exhausting' part of 'fatecarver' to this thread was that it was perceived as being too rewarding vs the effort yet here we have a mythic that pretty much mandates effort to reap the rewards and still gets the hammer.

I keep asking myself, who are these changes for?

Old sets but:

Why are the Archive Class sets still Class-locked? This makes literally no sense anymore, especially since you can have a "Templar" running Herald of the Tome, Assassination, and Aedric Spear who's allowed to wear Wrathsun (which means they get no benefit from the 5-piece since they dropped Dawn's Wrath), and yet a "DK" running Animal Companions, Grave Lord, and Ardent Flame can't run either Corpseburster or Aerie's Cry even though they have the relevant lines and the 5-piece for both of those sets doesn't even require running those lines (it only gives a damage buff for those skills, but the proc still works).

I know the article said

"Class identity is still important for key aspects of our game: Achievement, class styles, class scripts, class item sets, and so much more,” Day emphasizes.

but... really? When players talk about Class Identity, we're not talking about what their belt buckle looks like! We mean things like "a DK has low sustain supported by frequent ults!" or "a NB is a single-target sneaky stabby player!"
Subclassing has completely removed Class Identity, full stop. The devs latching on to "class identity" using tertiary class characteristics is just insulting at this point. Especially since the Class styles were unlocked in U40 when they were introduced - they were specifically locked in U41 and that wasn't even a popular change then, and people have since discussed.

UNLOCK THE CLASS STYLES! And the sets, but seriously UNLOCK THE STYLE PAGES.

ZOS_Kevin wrote: »

Just for additional follow up, we are aiming to fix an issue where the damage bonus isn't working like other bonuses, causing it to increase other damage bonuses instead of adding together with them.

We have also passed this thread along for additional feedback, but please make sure to add feedback to the itemization feedback thread as well.

Nice to have a quick response on this topic Kevin!

I also strongly agree with others on this, overload as it stands and the way its used it is just in fact channeling a heavy attack and based on that it SHOULD be buffed by Rakkhat's Voidmantle.

Besides that, i think that Overload gives players that love to play heavy attack builds the opportunity to be able to deal a decent amount of single target and cleave damage (compared to other ultimates) while still maintaining their heavy attack playstyle.

Ofcourse if there are issues where the damage bonus isn't working like intended or the way other bonuses do etc. that would be a fair fix, but to me on live server Rakkhats Voidmantle doesnt feel overpowered and its more likely where at should be damagewise compared to other options in my opinion.

I might do some decent testing and comparing with whatever changes the team comes up next week on PTS!


thank you in advance!

Item Sets

• Dungeon Sets
  • Lucilla’s Windshield: Resolved an issue where a version of Lucilla's Windshield Helm could drop as unbound.
• Monster Masks
  • Balorgh: Reverted the changes to require you to be in combat to gain the effects of this set.
    
    [Developer Comment]
    We're reverting the changes made in week one of PTS because this is a unique case of consistency versus context, as seen in many discussions brought up this past week.
    Normally, we don’t want to allow item sets to activate out of combat if they offer a duration effect that can enable alpha strikes. Additionally, we normally don’t want to allow a set to retain its effect while no longer wearing the set and has not been designed to operate as a back-bar set. We used an in-combat requirement to curtail this experience, but in this case, you cannot unequip the set while retaining the effect - and almost all Ultimate casts that directly grant an alpha strike also remove things like Sneak and Invisibility before their impact. Originally this was done for the sake of consistency, but the context shows this set does not need this stipulation.

• Mythics
  • Rakkhat’s Voidmantle: Fixed an issue where this set’s damage done bonus to Heavy Attacks that did not operate as other damage done bonuses, resulting in it being much higher than intended in certain cases. The Heavy Attack damage bonus no longer works with Overload, as Overload's Heavy Attacks do not exhibit the penalty of the set. The restore from this set is now treated as a Heavy Attack restore, so it can be augmented by more effects.

Zyaneth_Bal wrote: »

PeacefulAnarchy wrote: »

@ZOS_Kevin Can you clarify what this means:
"Fixed an issue where this set’s damage done bonus to Heavy Attacks that did not operate as other damage done bonuses, resulting in it being much higher than intended in certain cases."

Is this an across the board nerf to how voidmantle interacts with HA sets, Weapons Expert and/or empower, or is there some very specific use case you're trying to address. Basically, I'd like to know if "certain cases" is some edge case hardly anyone is aware of, or if "certain cases" means any case were people build using the natural and accessible ways that buff heavy attacks.

I also disagree with not making it work with overload, btw.

Indeed, the explanation is very unclear. Even if it’s in fact some unintended interaction, it does not break the game, it is not that strong in any scenario but is actually very fun. It is not even popular to use.

There is no harm in making it an exception to some rule if it allows players to have fun while bringing no harm.

play the way you want, so long as its the way we want you to play