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Re: U50 Feedback Thread for Combat Refresh: Werewolf
And to clarify any misconceptions or assumptions, I personally don't PvP. I can count on one hand the number of times I've dueled and I haven't touched the other facets of PvP in years. I don't want WW to remain OP in PvP. What I do want is WW not getting nerfed for PvP because some people think the whole playstyle is OP based on ONE build in ONE aspect ov PvP.
.....So let me get this straight. You spent 10 pages arguing with me, @React, @Alchimiste1 who are seasoned PvPers, yet you don't personally PvP?
You are either ragebaiting us pretty damn well, or you are taking a stance in a subject matter which you have zero knowledge on. I'm sorry, but this is where we should stop.
hoangdz
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Re: Challenge difficulty is so much fun
randconfig wrote: »Honestly, there is only one way this challenge difficulty thing is going to work without separate instances:
Mark players and foes in vestige difficulty with an icon, and force any lower difficulty player into that difficulty the moment they join the combat. Do not let them grief and ruin my experience or the experience of my friends.
Otherwise, at least give us a pass on violating the ToS when we inevitably get into verbal fights with griefing players lol.
How about the flip side of that? When average-powered or newbie players are fighting a boss and some massively-OP vet players come along and melt the boss, denying the lesser-powered players from receiving any loot privileges due to the OP vets doing the majority of the damage, punish the OP vets? Because that scenario has been going on for years, and caused much grief (as expressed in these forums) to those players who couldn't receive any event coffers from a boss. How is it griefing only if OP vet players on Vestige difficulty are suddenly treated to the same scenario they've been griefing lowbie players with for years?
You can't have it both ways. If OP vets have been griefing lowbie players for years and not being punished for it, then lowbie players should not be punished for supposedly "griefing" vet players on Vestige difficulty. How about let's be fair, not entitled.
SeaGtGruff
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Re: Challenge difficulty is so much fun
randconfig wrote: »Honestly, there is only one way this challenge difficulty thing is going to work without separate instances:
Mark players and foes in vestige difficulty with an icon, and force any lower difficulty player into that difficulty the moment they join the combat. Do not let them grief and ruin my experience or the experience of my friends.
Otherwise, at least give us a pass on violating the ToS when we inevitably get into verbal fights with griefing players lol.
I'm sorry, but this isn't a single-player game... and if you're not buying my game, then you shouldn't get to dictate how I play. I should be able to enjoy all content and no other player should be dictating the terms on how I play. Just because YOU want to solo a world boss, doesn't mean you get to dictate to others who also want to fight the world boss.
Re: A social issue people are reluctant to bring up
If you're that scared of being singled out, isn't there an anonymous option? You're still in the logs but not named.
It is really a non-issue if you're in a friendly guild.
It isn't really toxicity though. You're trying to fit in where you don't. There is a group of people for everyone somewhere in eso. It probably isn't in the group finder or the sweatiest of hard mode trial guilds.
Dps sharing isn't the issue, zos and balance for low/mid tier players is.
Bolded part bears repeating, so I reposted your post
The term toxicity can encompass so many things. This can include a person trying to mold others into how they view group inclusion should be. Great post, I fear it falls on deaf ears though as this would mean someone taking personal responsibility, which is hard for some.
Bguk
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Re: Cyrodiil Needs Solo Only
If you build a solo bomber build you can win.
You need to determine who is the most important person in a group to assassinate to destroy those organized keep farmers.
Speaking as a seasoned solo bomber, I can say with confidence…you can’t win a damn thing long-term.
For the most part, all of these groups consist of 35k - 45k+ HP builds that have hellish healing, shields at almost all times, and hold block most of the time, while someone on the outskirts is damn near hooked up to a detect pot IV.
Oh sure, you can occasionally catch someone lacking and pop some squishy player who latched onto the group looking to be carried. And setting off that bomb is fun, don’t get me wrong. But you won’t kill everyone in the group, and (depending on who’s around you when you go in for a bomb) you might not even stop the enemy from flipping or defending a keep.
As for the point of this thread, solo-only Cyro will never happen. The mode is intended as a large-scale group warfare mode, so it makes no sense to not allow players to run around in groups. Plus, people would find ways to group up anyway.
Re: Update 50 PTS – Week 1 Summary
I just want to emphasise this point
Sorc is also being carried by monolith of storms right now.
Swap that set out for any other set and it's under 180k with horrible cleave.
Not that I'm arguing for a nerf to monolith, it's awesome that it has gone from seriously one of the worst sets in the game to one of the strongest, but be aware that there is a lot going on with sorc parses right now which are compounding to push up their numbers.
Sorcs don't have access to any crit damage passives, or pen passives so they are going to have to make compromises to their "dummy" setup the moment you put them in an actual group.
Hell, these parses are being done without major brutality/sorcery since it's on the dummy now so we're all using tripots.
There is literally one build that works properly, which is monolith of storms, mora's scribe and huntsman's warmask to get these numbers and they scale back very quickly if you try and do something else.
Overload is a gimmick that no one acutally uses in content because you need to build ult on trash to have that kind of opening on a boss, and the group is far better off if you just drop an atro instead, 10% damage for the group when everyone is hitting their ults vs a cheesey damage spike for 1 person.
I'm really concerned that ZoS are going to look at the BIG NUMBAS parses and overlook how it's just playing to the dummy and not the game.
You're right. Actually, I genuinely believe Sorc can remain as it is until the year-end refresh, then we can discuss how to adjust Sorc Mastery and Sorc-class sets. Otherwise, all the balancing work done now will likely have to be scrapped and redone during the year-end refresh, which is a significant time cost for both developers and players.
Re: Update 50 PTS – Week 1 Summary
I believe the reason Sorc is currently too strong is because "Static Reverberation" provides an additional source of damage, which is also observed in CMX where Static Reverberation accounts for a very high percentage of damage.
Perhaps adding a condition "when dealing direct or shock damage" to Static Reverberation could slightly reduce its trigger frequency. Alternatively, adding a 0.5-second cooldown could be implemented.
However, please don't nerf it too harshly, as this is the only viable tool that Sorc has the potential to compete with other classes before its rework at the end of the year, especially after the developers decided to give Major Berserk to Dragoon.
Perhaps adding a condition "when dealing direct or shock damage" to Static Reverberation could slightly reduce its trigger frequency. Alternatively, adding a 0.5-second cooldown could be implemented.
However, please don't nerf it too harshly, as this is the only viable tool that Sorc has the potential to compete with other classes before its rework at the end of the year, especially after the developers decided to give Major Berserk to Dragoon.
Re: Update 50 PTS – Week 1 Summary
ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »[*] We have seen the feedback regarding the glowing markings on the Werewolf model for Ultimate Morphs, ranging from toning down the intensity of the glow to removing the glow entirely.
I would prefer to be able to remove the markings entirely. Not just the glow.
Re: U50 Feedback Thread for Class Mastery
Sorc Conservation of Energy should only proc on Sorc class skills, or otherwise have its proc conditions restricted (can buff the numbers a little if the frequency would be less). For example this really doesn't need to proc off roll dodge or WW skills.
Absolutely not. You only think of it from the perspective of your small duelling bubble where Werewolfs and StamSorcs run rampant.
PvE tanks, healers (maybe DDs) absolutely depend on it activating on every skill, just like normal MagSorcs will for PvP. Because Sorc barely even uses class skills, since most of them are bad.
I hope this suggestion of yours will get utterly ignored, because this would be devastating for most others. The idea behind this is to bring pure classes up to par with Subclassing. It's instantly dead on arrival for most people in most situations if this gets nerfed even more.
Dracane
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Re: U50 Feedback Thread for Combat Refresh: Werewolf
You guys really want to disable class masteries AND class passives from WW? Tell me then how we’re going to express our own werewolf play style if we all have the same exact setup. Our ability to express is already limited without a scribing spell, this’ll just make everyone on WW play the same!
Don’t you see how boring that is? Here’s hoping ZOS doesn’t take such a crude and heavy handed approach.
Don’t you see how boring that is? Here’s hoping ZOS doesn’t take such a crude and heavy handed approach.
Ataskir
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