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Re: Dungeon Descent Golden Pursuit
About Bolgrul: his quests give very low rep, so not everyone would be able to gain 3 Undaunted levels just with that.
I think he gives 10 Undaunted points for each job. It takes 50 points to go from rank 1 to rank 2, and another 100 points to go from rank 2 to rank 3. Hence, anyone who has 3 alts who haven't joined the Undaunted yet would be best off using those 3 to complete the "Earn 3 ranks" pursuit. I don't think it would be possible to complete it on a single character.
Re: PTS Update 48 - Feedback Thread for Hearts Week Event
I haven't tried that questline yet (will do that later today), but I've already taken a short look at the achievements. Can we discuss the flavor text of the reward boxes?
I know that Sanguine summoning day is on the same day as Heart's Day. I could understand him trying to make the date about himself and possibly manipulating celebrations. What I'm doubtful of is whether the description "appreciation for spreading love" fits here. Because love is clearly nothing he's interested in. Merriment or indulgence maybe, from his point of view, although many lore aspects related to him are much darker (some of them I couldn't even mention on the forum here). I was already disappointed that in the West Solstice quests he was reduced to something completely tame, and people on his celebrations were just drinking, eating and dancing a bit, with one npc even stating, after that one quest is completed, "Now they can go home again." - which is the opposite of what we ever got in lore about Sanguine; the problem with him is exactly that he doesn't let people go, but lures them into a horrible trap with all kinds of promised delights. That had been the main point of daedric "thing": Luring people in, destroying them with excess, moral corruption, addiction, or simple forcing them magically to never stop dancing or drinking, until they die from that. Might that be "love" (for his followers) from his point of view? I don't know. I don't think any lore source ever stated that (correct me if I'm wrong). With this background, the flavor text of those event boxes sounds more like a lore mistake than anything else. But we can discuss that, maybe I've missed something.
I know that Sanguine summoning day is on the same day as Heart's Day. I could understand him trying to make the date about himself and possibly manipulating celebrations. What I'm doubtful of is whether the description "appreciation for spreading love" fits here. Because love is clearly nothing he's interested in. Merriment or indulgence maybe, from his point of view, although many lore aspects related to him are much darker (some of them I couldn't even mention on the forum here). I was already disappointed that in the West Solstice quests he was reduced to something completely tame, and people on his celebrations were just drinking, eating and dancing a bit, with one npc even stating, after that one quest is completed, "Now they can go home again." - which is the opposite of what we ever got in lore about Sanguine; the problem with him is exactly that he doesn't let people go, but lures them into a horrible trap with all kinds of promised delights. That had been the main point of daedric "thing": Luring people in, destroying them with excess, moral corruption, addiction, or simple forcing them magically to never stop dancing or drinking, until they die from that. Might that be "love" (for his followers) from his point of view? I don't know. I don't think any lore source ever stated that (correct me if I'm wrong). With this background, the flavor text of those event boxes sounds more like a lore mistake than anything else. But we can discuss that, maybe I've missed something.
Syldras
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Re: Tone-deaf AUA on Reddit
They got themselves on a hamster wheel of having to create new sets for every single content release. Over time the sheer number means there are going to be a large number of sets that are next to worthless. They are stuck between a rock and a hard place, people expect new sets with every content release but ZOS is constrained by not wanting to create more powerful sets each time to avoid power creep. It is likely that all the likely optimal combinations of abilities and stats have already been used at this point in creating sets and new sets are just ZOS going through the motions because new sets are expected.
They should never have started with the sets concept in a game that does not have level increases with every expansion. Games like WoW that have a level increase with every expansion, old sets become obsolete. But with ESO's level system, all sets remain relevant forever, narrowing the options for making new sets with every new set that is introduced.
At least personally, I’d rather new sets be reskins of what we already have then be dead on release. Like a shock version of Frostbite and a poison version of Pillar of Nirn.AngryPenguin wrote: »Why are any discussions related to ESO taking place anywhere other than the dedicated forum for such discussions?
Good grief! Were they trying to hide this discussion from us or something by putting it on reddit and not even telling people there was a discussion going on there? I'm on the list to get announcements and advertising and got no heads up about this.
It was mentioned on the forums. We’ve been told they did it on reddit because reddit makes threads of conversation much easier to follow, which to be fair, is true.
Seems a bit ironic that ZOS doesn't even use their own dedicated forum for ESO to me. I mean, I get nervous about every post I make on this forum because you just never know what's going to get flagged for who knows what, but I wouldn't think that ZOS employees would have to worry about that.
AngryPenguin
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Re: Tone-deaf AUA on Reddit
What is wrong with sets being equal but different?
Why can’t we have that?
Because ever since hybridization became a thing, there is no "different" anymore.
heaven13
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Re: ESO feels just overall empty
I think people are overstating both the decline in the game's population, which is mainly involving competitive play and not the overall game ...
That's the point, isn't it? The disjointed mass of players who inhabited the world and not connecting to each other versus people who do participate in community aspects like trading, guilds, group content etc. There are objectively thousands at any given time, probably couple ten of thousands players logged in at the very least. But that's not what people are really talking about when discussing the population decline as it involves social aspects and how those feel versus previous years. It's more about those 1-10 percent who make the game feel truly alive, imo.
... and the contribution that crossplay will make to reversing any such decline.
My guess it's more about sustaining adequate amount of people just a little longer if no substantial changes or reversals are made ultimately. I don't expect them to revert AwA, for example, but something should be done addressing all the issues it created for players and player retention. If not, there's no crossplay that would salvage lack of attachment.
Re: This is how games die
I remember Rich and Matt both saying multiple times during interviews that they are ok with how ESO players interact with the game, admitting themselves that there are players that burn through new content the first 14 days of a new update and then never login until the next big update launch; adding that other players login for 3 months then skip 6 months and return for another 3 months, and others take even longer breaks before returning. Zos has always been ok with this, in their own words.
We've seen a lot of people leaving with U35 but also many of them have written on this forum they have returned months or years after.
Are there less players around? Yes. I know this very well, XBOX EU.
Is ESO dying today? No. Because if you say today that it is dying, then it is dying from 2014.
ESO is one of the most successful MMOs out there, period.
Now... Is the MMO genre losing ground? Is Microsoft scaring us with its management? Is AAA gaming as a whole in a bad position today?
Your answer to these will be more indicative of what's going on with ESO's low player count than any "unwelcomed feature" IMO.
We've seen a lot of people leaving with U35 but also many of them have written on this forum they have returned months or years after.
Are there less players around? Yes. I know this very well, XBOX EU.
Is ESO dying today? No. Because if you say today that it is dying, then it is dying from 2014.
ESO is one of the most successful MMOs out there, period.
Now... Is the MMO genre losing ground? Is Microsoft scaring us with its management? Is AAA gaming as a whole in a bad position today?
Your answer to these will be more indicative of what's going on with ESO's low player count than any "unwelcomed feature" IMO.
Re: Tone-deaf AUA on Reddit
They got themselves on a hamster wheel of having to create new sets for every single content release. Over time the sheer number means there are going to be a large number of sets that are next to worthless. They are stuck between a rock and a hard place, people expect new sets with every content release but ZOS is constrained by not wanting to create more powerful sets each time to avoid power creep. It is likely that all the likely optimal combinations of abilities and stats have already been used at this point in creating sets and new sets are just ZOS going through the motions because new sets are expected.
They should never have started with the sets concept in a game that does not have level increases with every expansion. Games like WoW that have a level increase with every expansion, old sets become obsolete. But with ESO's level system, all sets remain relevant forever, narrowing the options for making new sets with every new set that is introduced.
It's definitely unsustainable.
I think part of the problem with sets is that they're the main, easiest-to-obtain reward for a zone or dungeon. While itemization is a problem, it all goes back to the reward structure.
Mounts, skins, houses related to any piece of content is either a time-gated deal or behind some difficult achievement. Just taking dungeons for instance - the motifs are an attractive reward. But - I have to do the content on veteran, which can be pretty challenging, and hope the RNG is kind to me. Or I have to wait months for the motif book to enter the store and shell out $40. This has created an environment where sets are the only reward for many players. Because of that, creating a new zone or dungeon without new sets isn't viable.
Destai
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Re: ESO feels just overall empty
as I just said on another hot threadhttps://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/8369496/#Comment_8369496It actually feels like the game is dying
September has always been a period of low pop on ESO (more or less high intensity)
BTW
Knowing this, and when I see the September daily rewards month, and the what are actual Golden Pursuits rewards, I think that ZOS could reward the most loyal players even more. But hey... that's just my opinion
I was an eso+ subscriber for 10 years without missing a single month. What did I get for my loyalty? Ten years of eso+. So when some changes I didn't approve of came along I finally cancelled the sub and am liking the game much more now that I'm no longer increasing my financial investment into the game. At least I'm not paying for the vengeance nonsense and tiny zones with a fraction of what we used to get for the same money.
Re: West Weald Treasure Map Leads are Bugged
@ZOS_Kevin
Is there any way you can share the drop chances for first, second and third drops of an item? Also, can you confirm that chances are pooled, meaning I have a chance to get A lead, and then rng will random determine which lead? Does quality of the lead factor in?
We are all playing the game tey8ng to get leads and it would be very nice to know our efforts are not wasted.
Is there any way you can share the drop chances for first, second and third drops of an item? Also, can you confirm that chances are pooled, meaning I have a chance to get A lead, and then rng will random determine which lead? Does quality of the lead factor in?
We are all playing the game tey8ng to get leads and it would be very nice to know our efforts are not wasted.
Re: PTS Update 48 - Feedback Thread for Hearts Week Event
tomofhyrule wrote: »So, Heart's Day is on the 16th of February, which is also the summoning day of a certain Daedric Prince, for whom quite a bit of this stuff is themed.
I would like to point out that said Daedric Prince is the only one whose Artifact style has never released in the store. I would also like to point out that every Artifact style releases over the respective Prince's summoning day.
Please make sure that this patch includes the data for the Sanguine's Rose artifact, and please for the love of all things holy, release that during this event in February
Or would be cool to make it earnable in-game for completing heart’s day related achievements
