A problem also is that many players quit because of this and they are not around to make their "voice" heard anymore in the matter. So the feedback we see is mostly from people who are still around and are fine with subclass/hybrid but still prefer the old magicka and stamina classes.

Kind of a tangent as I don't think PvP Cyro should be removed, but it was easily my favourite location of the Elder Scrolls games because it's so much more varied than the others (though chunks of the Oblivion world have how been used in other chapters).

So personally I'd quite like to see it used for PvE properly, perhaps with a time travel story that takes you to Cyro before (or after) the war.

Just want to add that the day and night control doesn't affect windows on inside walls.

Artem_gig wrote: »

Well, you and... "I won't blame the raid leaders, I'll blame ZOS"... you've all gone crazy long ago. The only ones to blame are those who don't see anything but the meta and force others to use it, but I'll tell you a secret: TESO isn't about the meta. It's about the uniqueness of characters. And the more opportunities there are for diversity, the more likely it is that you'll find the most effective one. Are the developers to blame? No, because balance is impossible. But the players who chose the meta over their identity and others are the cancer of the game. Get out of the game, it wasn't made for you, it's the elder scrolls - be who you want to be, not who is most effective. The division into classes didn't allow you to be who you wanted to be. When will you understand what this game is about, stop aiming for the meta! Play for fun and collect what you want to be.

Consider this. In end game content, when a player needs to get a reasonable amount of power out of their character, if the most effective tactic available features a long range, high damage ability that also offers a large amount of survivability, how might ZOS develop that content? More ambient damage to challenge Fatecarver shields, more cleave demanding fights to buffer the beam's damage. And if ZOS keeps making content that is intended to be challenging, and this meta remains in place with this much of an advantage over all other builds, how might non-meta builds fair in those new pieces of content? If your build doesn't have that level of cleave, that level of innate survivability without sacrificing damage, how enjoyable is the content for you? The meta isn't just how players play the game, it's how ZOS designs the content, you can be casual in much of the game's content, but in the serious content this is very important, and those design decisions will trickle down to easier difficulties.

Population on PS EU is since years drastical low but we dont have steam charts to prove our points. I feel you buddy

I've beeen on standard (now premium). I might knock that down to essential on the next billing cycle.

MJallday wrote: »

Thanks Jason. From what I can see I think essential (lowest tier) included online multiplayer. See here >

https://news.xbox.com/en-us/2025/10/01/xbox-game-pass-ultimate-premium-essential-plans/

This is disgusting.

Changes to good old Jabs and Flurry animations would actually make me stop playing if I only had Templar character
I have characters of all classes to keep me entertained for now, but my two Templars barely see any gameplay since those changes.
Magicka Templar sometimes does healing, and I don't use Jabs on her.
Stamina Templar used to be my favorite character for PvP and group PvE. Nowadays she only sometimes does Battlegrounds, and most of time there she spends in werewolf form just so I don't need to see awful new Biting Jabs animation
I stopped using Flurry at all since I saw new animation on live. However, recently I tried a certain PvP build for my Stamsorc which uses Flurry as spammable - and while the build is nice, it feels so bad to observe the silly animation, that I barely do PvP on him

Also, old Jabs not only looked awesome with ray of light - it had powerful vocalization to accompany it:

https://youtu.be/xVCCqPKjans

Old Flurry felt powerful and just awesome with nice vocalization feedback as well:

https://youtu.be/wmDoaXeKIAw

How I loved this character in action... I hope that maybe one day I can experience it all again