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Re: [BUILD] Night Market Stealth and Speed Build For Solos
Hey just threw it together on a whim in case anyone wanted to try it out. Some people just don’t like dying? Better to beat the system then. Try it or don’t, play the game or don’t, allow people to try different things if they want.
You don’t even need to group, just latch onto the blob of players when you find it. Get credit, move on.
Rather than making the same reply or statements as everyone else, I suggested a build. Better to give alternatives than to add to the vitriol.
I’ll be back out there tonight in a regular dps build hanging with my friends in discord and having a good time while clearing the content. Best of luck to you as well
You don’t even need to group, just latch onto the blob of players when you find it. Get credit, move on.
Rather than making the same reply or statements as everyone else, I suggested a build. Better to give alternatives than to add to the vitriol.
I’ll be back out there tonight in a regular dps build hanging with my friends in discord and having a good time while clearing the content. Best of luck to you as well
Kartalin
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Re: Skill-Based Combat is Back: Why the Night Market is the Ultimate "Mistake Check" for solo players
This event should have been like the Wall event, specifically the phase with the Keep that people were running around at all times of the day.
This is...what...Day 3? Of the event and the district and plaza are "dead" at 5:41pm EST. It looks like most of the GF: Event Zone parties are for the dungeons inside the Districts and not for the actual districts.
This is why forced-group content is, overall, bad. Even the Wall Event's Keep Assault phase was bad. But at least there wasn't dungeons inside of it to steal participants away.
As I stated in another thread. This should have been geared towards the difficulty of a Public Dungeon's group event boss. Not too easy that you faceroll through, but easy enough it can be solo'ed. But definitely still a 'do in a group for speed' encounter.
This is...what...Day 3? Of the event and the district and plaza are "dead" at 5:41pm EST. It looks like most of the GF: Event Zone parties are for the dungeons inside the Districts and not for the actual districts.
This is why forced-group content is, overall, bad. Even the Wall Event's Keep Assault phase was bad. But at least there wasn't dungeons inside of it to steal participants away.
As I stated in another thread. This should have been geared towards the difficulty of a Public Dungeon's group event boss. Not too easy that you faceroll through, but easy enough it can be solo'ed. But definitely still a 'do in a group for speed' encounter.
illutian
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Re: Official Night Market Feedback Thread
There's been a lot of criticism about this even (from myself included) but from what I am seeing on the posts and what I have experienced, the problem is not the event itself, but how it works.
IF
You have a group that you run with and can coordinate with: This event is for you.
IF
You already have everything else done in the game and want a break from the same daily tasks: This event is for you.
IF
You like to spend hour outside of the game watch reviews and how-to videos: This even is for you.
IF
You want something challenging to do with your group that is not a typical Dungeon, Trial or PVP: This even is for you.
This is a brand new idea; something that has never been done before and from the people medium to large size groups, this has been enjoyable.
BUT
This was also marketed as something you can do if you do not have a group. That's not to say you can solo this, there is plenty in this game that you just cannot do as a solo player, but rather you can get a group of random people together and run as a group of strangers.
THE PROBLEM IS
There is no group creator for this even. There is no in-game Chat to talk to strangers who are not going to stop and setup a third party chat for 15 minutes with a random stranger. There are either not enough players in there or at least not enough players that respond to group requests from strangers.
So if you do not already have a group when you get to the night market: This event is not for you.
THE PROBLEM IS
This is a very grindy experience that will take several, as in 20-60, hours of play to get the 10k Favor; let alone all the drops for progression and all the achievements. This is even more grindy if you have to spend 30 minutes running around trying to form a group to not get killed. This is a limited time even for about 7 weeks. Depending on how long you have to play, you could spend the entire time in here trying to get things complete before it leave and that time would have been wasted.
So if you still have other zones to finish, gear to farm, levels to grind: This event is (probably) not for you.
THE PROBLEM IS
This is not much explanation in game or even from the ESO website that explains what to do for the challenges, how to to the challenges, how and where to farm the needed fragments to progress the Night Market. So all of that has to be research outside of the game. At least with dungeons there is an attempt to show you the mechanics in game. There are also so many different quests and challenges and events that people need to do at different times that if you are in a random group, you will just get left behind.
So if you haven't already watched other content creator explain the night market (and there are some good ones if you want that) and you don't have a group that is willing to wait for everyone to do their own thing: This event is not for you.
**Also side note: Dying and respawning half a map away from your group with several large groups of enemies between you, is just a punch in the Dragon Balls. If you are going to make content and tell people it's not made for a solo player, then why have a feature that forces you to play as a solo player to rejoin your group?
In summary: The content is just fine. It's new, it's different, it a deviation from the norm, and that was executed well. The problem is:
1. How we access the content, if we do not already have a dedicated group
2. Information on what to do in there
3. The limited time to do an event this complex
IF
You have a group that you run with and can coordinate with: This event is for you.
IF
You already have everything else done in the game and want a break from the same daily tasks: This event is for you.
IF
You like to spend hour outside of the game watch reviews and how-to videos: This even is for you.
IF
You want something challenging to do with your group that is not a typical Dungeon, Trial or PVP: This even is for you.
This is a brand new idea; something that has never been done before and from the people medium to large size groups, this has been enjoyable.
BUT
This was also marketed as something you can do if you do not have a group. That's not to say you can solo this, there is plenty in this game that you just cannot do as a solo player, but rather you can get a group of random people together and run as a group of strangers.
THE PROBLEM IS
There is no group creator for this even. There is no in-game Chat to talk to strangers who are not going to stop and setup a third party chat for 15 minutes with a random stranger. There are either not enough players in there or at least not enough players that respond to group requests from strangers.
So if you do not already have a group when you get to the night market: This event is not for you.
THE PROBLEM IS
This is a very grindy experience that will take several, as in 20-60, hours of play to get the 10k Favor; let alone all the drops for progression and all the achievements. This is even more grindy if you have to spend 30 minutes running around trying to form a group to not get killed. This is a limited time even for about 7 weeks. Depending on how long you have to play, you could spend the entire time in here trying to get things complete before it leave and that time would have been wasted.
So if you still have other zones to finish, gear to farm, levels to grind: This event is (probably) not for you.
THE PROBLEM IS
This is not much explanation in game or even from the ESO website that explains what to do for the challenges, how to to the challenges, how and where to farm the needed fragments to progress the Night Market. So all of that has to be research outside of the game. At least with dungeons there is an attempt to show you the mechanics in game. There are also so many different quests and challenges and events that people need to do at different times that if you are in a random group, you will just get left behind.
So if you haven't already watched other content creator explain the night market (and there are some good ones if you want that) and you don't have a group that is willing to wait for everyone to do their own thing: This event is not for you.
**Also side note: Dying and respawning half a map away from your group with several large groups of enemies between you, is just a punch in the Dragon Balls. If you are going to make content and tell people it's not made for a solo player, then why have a feature that forces you to play as a solo player to rejoin your group?
In summary: The content is just fine. It's new, it's different, it a deviation from the norm, and that was executed well. The problem is:
1. How we access the content, if we do not already have a dedicated group
2. Information on what to do in there
3. The limited time to do an event this complex
GuardianV
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Re: Microsoft Rolls Out Xbox Mode to All Windows 11 PCs
No thanks, I'll stick to Steam.
Re: [BUILD] Night Market Stealth and Speed Build For Solos
spartaxoxo wrote: »Eventually you encounter groups of players fighting bosses and such, just jump in and join them. This setup won't do nearly as much damage but you'll still get credit.
And the group finder is great, it works well. I used it to get a group yesterday before my friends jumped on.
oO A solo build to be used in group finder?! Why!?
Yes, because the content can be done by groups with solo builds, pvp builds, group builds, probably naked builds.
But why are you using a solo build in group content? Ah… right! Because the solo build is for solo players playing solo… but they can’t solo. And that’s why you need the group finder. OK, makes perfect sense!
You're just using the group finder to have other people around. You don't have to play intensely with them like it's a dungeon. Everyone knows it's a group zone.
Guys on a crusade to play solo for this content. No advice will change his mind. I will give it to him, he's tried playing the content at least.
Bguk
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Re: Werewolf Emotes?
YandereGirlfriend wrote: »This is one of those Arnold x Carl Weathers bro handshake moments where everyone can come together to vote old-gen consoles off the island.
They are holding back so much progress for the game.
I hope this happens when crossplay is implemented
Re: Official Night Market Feedback Thread
Season 0 was free, so while I'm unhappy that I don't get anything from it I can just ignore it. If I had paid for it, I would be demanding a refund. For future seasons, if they're premium, I'll wait for community reviews before purchasing.
Re: Werewolf Emotes?
This is one of those Arnold x Carl Weathers bro handshake moments where everyone can come together to vote old-gen consoles off the island.
They are holding back so much progress for the game.
They are holding back so much progress for the game.
[BUILD] Night Market Stealth and Speed Build For Solos
For those that are not as interested in the combat or the rest of your guild is offline and you're wanting to do some questing in the Night Market, this build is for you.
It leverages vampire stage four with three sets in particular: Coward's Gear, Prisoner's Rags, and Stormweaver's Cavort.
Coward's gear comes from battleground rewards but can also be purchased from guild traders. Prisoner's rags can be found in Coldharbour as well as guild traders. Finally Stormweaver's Cavort is a mythic that was released with Galen and the leads generally require a bit of luck to find but the most difficult content is a world boss and lava vents which you may need to do without a lot of help if you don't have the mythic already. (Lead locations shown in link)
The reason stage 4 vampire is important is because of the final passive, Unnatural Movement:
So here's how it works: by sprinting for 3 seconds as a stage 4 vampire, we enter stealth and remain in stealth so long as we continue to sprint. Coward's gear gives us major expedition (+30% speed) and major protection (-10% damage) while sprinting. At the same time Prisoner's Rags is giving us 1000 magicka recovery as we sprint. And the cherry on top is Stormweaver's Cavort which now makes sprinting cost magicka -- in addition to a host of other core abilities.
Class is not important, but I would suggest having the Assassination skill line so we can slot Concealed Weapon on one of our bars which will give us minor expedition (+15% speed) just for having on the bar. Resolving Vigor is also very useful just to top off our health as we invariably stumble into wrong areas or get into trouble when we stop at quest markers. Dodge roll is also our friend but no need to overdo it. Side note: stage four vamps do not recover health on their own so a self heal like vigor is vital.
Combining all of this together we can sprint very quickly while being hidden from NPCs and navigate our way through the market.
Which armor is slotted where does not impact the build greatly as both light and medium armor have passives that buff sprint -- medium is a little more helpful for what it is worth. As far as CP goes, in the red tree we have Celerity to boost our base speed, and in the green tree we have Steed's Blessing which buffs our speed so long as we don't get in combat. Is that even necessary? Likely we're at or near speed cap already so probably not too important to be concerned with. There's refreshing stride in the red tree but I think neither the mag or health recovery applies due to stage 4 vamp and stormweaver's cavort.
Build screenshot:
Swift jewelry may actually be overkill, I didn't do the math on that, so maybe just go infused or bloodthirsty instead if you stumble upon a group of players and decide to help them.
Race doesn't really matter either. Wood elves get a speed buff but again, may not even be needed
Additionally I have a video that outlines most or all of the above, as well as a short demonstration of the build in action as I complete one of the Night Market quests. Hopefully this helps.
And use the group finder to find groups.
https://youtu.be/RcCC9Qp7pBg
It leverages vampire stage four with three sets in particular: Coward's Gear, Prisoner's Rags, and Stormweaver's Cavort.
Coward's gear comes from battleground rewards but can also be purchased from guild traders. Prisoner's rags can be found in Coldharbour as well as guild traders. Finally Stormweaver's Cavort is a mythic that was released with Galen and the leads generally require a bit of luck to find but the most difficult content is a world boss and lava vents which you may need to do without a lot of help if you don't have the mythic already. (Lead locations shown in link)
The reason stage 4 vampire is important is because of the final passive, Unnatural Movement:
So here's how it works: by sprinting for 3 seconds as a stage 4 vampire, we enter stealth and remain in stealth so long as we continue to sprint. Coward's gear gives us major expedition (+30% speed) and major protection (-10% damage) while sprinting. At the same time Prisoner's Rags is giving us 1000 magicka recovery as we sprint. And the cherry on top is Stormweaver's Cavort which now makes sprinting cost magicka -- in addition to a host of other core abilities.
Class is not important, but I would suggest having the Assassination skill line so we can slot Concealed Weapon on one of our bars which will give us minor expedition (+15% speed) just for having on the bar. Resolving Vigor is also very useful just to top off our health as we invariably stumble into wrong areas or get into trouble when we stop at quest markers. Dodge roll is also our friend but no need to overdo it. Side note: stage four vamps do not recover health on their own so a self heal like vigor is vital.
Combining all of this together we can sprint very quickly while being hidden from NPCs and navigate our way through the market.
Which armor is slotted where does not impact the build greatly as both light and medium armor have passives that buff sprint -- medium is a little more helpful for what it is worth. As far as CP goes, in the red tree we have Celerity to boost our base speed, and in the green tree we have Steed's Blessing which buffs our speed so long as we don't get in combat. Is that even necessary? Likely we're at or near speed cap already so probably not too important to be concerned with. There's refreshing stride in the red tree but I think neither the mag or health recovery applies due to stage 4 vamp and stormweaver's cavort.
Build screenshot:
Swift jewelry may actually be overkill, I didn't do the math on that, so maybe just go infused or bloodthirsty instead if you stumble upon a group of players and decide to help them.
Race doesn't really matter either. Wood elves get a speed buff but again, may not even be needed
Additionally I have a video that outlines most or all of the above, as well as a short demonstration of the build in action as I complete one of the Night Market quests. Hopefully this helps.
And use the group finder to find groups.
https://youtu.be/RcCC9Qp7pBgKartalin
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Re: Night market is not a trial
CameraBeardThePirate wrote: »I have done the entirety of my Night Market runs so far with a PUG group via the group finder.
That up to YESTERDAY. Not today.
PC EU, prime time tonight. There is NOBODY in NM and is Friday night. Last two days there were people regardless the instance. The place was packed.
Tonight 7 groups listed, 4 of them required all the relics completed or getting the boot, because they are doing the dungeons.
Of the rest 3 groups, all 3 are just 1 DD.
All guilds stopped doing NM also. People got the Mythic and they do not care for the grind any more.
If there were people for NM there would be more than 7 listings in the Group Finder too.
Did some of my quests totally solo with an immortal build DK. Only way to move around without dying with simple look by the trash mobs.
IDK who at ZOS thought that people will stick around in this ridiculous grindfest, after they do the absolute minimum to get the mythic and monster set the first couple of days.
I bet by next week there won't be anyone in Night Market. So those who want to continue try for the tome's won't be able to do so. Except if spending 3 hours per day to just gather few favour soloing with a tank that cannot kill anything, supposed to be "entertainment".
ZOS FAILED with this event.
And for the first time in 12.5 years been here (since beta), NEVER had such issue with anything added in the game. But NM is not well thought event, barring the majority and those who want to do it, cannot continue on Day 3, because there aren't people to group with.
While the rest of the server is packed.
