I doubt they will have leaderboard rewards. Also emperorship is disabled anyway.

One has to set vengeance as home campaign to be on the leaderboard. I don't think many does that. I haven't so I'm not on the leaderboard.

If you assign vengeance as home campaign it stays but need to do it one time.

Yesterday were 30 ish dc in the leaderboard late evening.

But we can also just pretend everyone keeps forgetting what they have done for years, signing up for a campaign.

Kappachi wrote: »

As a master historian who seeks the treasure of every dungeon, I too wish this was confirmation with like 45s timer rather than auto port, especially if I have to deal with a mob pack to get to my treasure chest to open because the rude speedrunner left everything behind. Often as the healer/tank if I see a speedrunner I just leave the dungeon and queue a different piece of content, I play to enjoy the game not to speed to the end. This confirmation would at least give me time to tie up some loose ends and might make me stay longer.

I'm not arguing with anything you said, but the boss will be long dead after 45s (at least in normal base game dungeons).

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Asdara wrote: »

SeaGtGruff wrote: »

Toxicity and gatekeeping have been around longer than subclassing, longer than the Arcanist class, longer than "HA builds" became a "thing," and... wait for it... longer than ESO has been around! ZOS didn't create them, and doesn't encourage them. In fact, "toxicity" is one of the things you can report another player for-- although there isn't really a subcategory under it that seems appropriate for comments which insult or belittle other players.

Right, toxicity existed before ESO but you’re missing the point entirely. The game doesn’t just let toxicity happen, it creates the conditions for it. Weak sets, poor scaling, and meta funnels punish anyone trying to play differently. That’s what drives exclusion and gatekeeping, not just bad players. Ignoring the design problem doesn’t make it disappear.

Nah it's bad players. There will always be a best set right up until they put us all in the same gear like the PvP tests that are happening. Then players will want to kick you for not running to next pull quick enough or standing in the wrong spot or who knows what. Those bad players are still going to be bad players.
What changes would make the bad players suddenly become decent?

Totally agree. And I think blaming it on ZOS just helps the "bad" players justify their toxicity and bad behavior.

Asdara wrote: »

Hey everyone,
I’ve been playing ESO since beta, and one of the things I’ve always loved is how diverse the community can be - different builds, different playstyles, different people all coming together.
But lately, I feel like discrimination and gatekeeping are at an all-time high.
Instead of helping or supporting each other, people are being excluded or mocked for their playstyle, identity, or simply not matching someone else’s “meta.”

Here’s an example that happened today, in vet pledge, so fairly medium LVL content, we're not talking about trifecta or else huh:

Meanwhile, this main arcanist :
- Left after 1 wipe
- Didn't focus adds and that's what wiped the group
- Had like 20k hp (no food buff?) and DIED FIRST

This is what happens when design forces everyone into a single box. People don’t want to carry anyone who doesn’t fit the exact mold, and players who experiment or just want to enjoy a different style get punished for it. I keep seeing people point fingers at the ESO community for being “toxic” or “gatekeeping,” but honestly? The root of the problem is ZOS.

ZOS keeps pushing heavy attack sets, but they’re some of the weakest and most frustrating designs I’ve ever seen. At the same time, everything is being funneled into the beam meta. The end result? Players are stuck in a corner: either you run the one style that ZOS clearly wants, or you get insulted, excluded, and told you’re “unviable.”
It’s not just about players being mean, it’s about how the game is designed. If sets and builds were actually balanced, if multiple playstyles were equally viable, there wouldn’t be this endless discrimination against anyone who isn’t running the current meta.

And here’s the real kicker: ZOS keeps advertising ESO with the slogan “Play how you want.” But the reality is the opposite, set design and balancing push everyone into the same narrow beam meta. If you actually try to “play how you want,” you’re punished for it even in basic content, whether through weak sets, bad scaling, or being excluded from groups. The marketing and the gameplay direction just don’t line up.

I'll admit I have not read all the comments to this thread but I just want to say in response to OP: it's funny that people ask for balance changes but when someone asks to buff Heavy Attacks or Oakensoul the same people start screaming; those same people are the ones that will then kick you out when they see you are using HA or Oak - you can't win when your opponent is so confused by itself.
So I'm not sure it's a Zos problem... Some players look like they've come out of Sheogorath's realm.

It happened to me twice now that I have overwritten a build with which I had been very happy but can no longer reconstruct.

There is a safeguard check when deleting golden items. Please implement one when overwriting an arsenal slot. This is really terrible.

As of now it is just the same pop up window that comes whether one wants to equip or overwrite a slot.

Gabriel_H wrote: »

heaven13 wrote: »

The player matters, yes. I don't disagree. But throwing some numbers at it and saying "see, it's not that bad" doesn't fit this particular conversation.

You wildly missed the point. You are still basing it on a spreadsheet and not actual. The only way to see is to allow players to use their non-meta in content and see the difference.

It's also worth remembering content is not designed around 100% damage potential with 100% efficiency.

Ok, and how do you propose to fix this? To force all groups to bring everyone regardless of their build? How do you propose to enforce this?

Yes, there are a lot of players who play off-meta setups reasonably well. The fact still remains that the average and maximum potential of an off-meta build are still significantly lower than the average and maximum potential of an Arcbladeplar. And that’s just numbers.

I know people who run trials and allow off-meta builds. Heck, one of my friends raid-led a vAS+2 last weekend in a social guild and told them to bring Oakensoul builds and it cleared, giving 9 of the 12 people in group their first vAS HM. But raid leads like that who are willing to really work with groups are few and far between, especially since ESO’s balance is chasing a lot of those people off. And I even know people who claim that the guy who got a whole team of Oakenbuilds through a vAS HM is “toxic” because he made any suggestion to their builds whatsoever.

To be honest, a lot of these “gatekeepy” players have been burned by people with off-meta builds before - I’ve seen plenty of people who proudly proclaim that “it’s okay that they have low DPS as long as they know mechanics!” while proceeding to botch every mechanic. Not to mention that there are a number of people who are convinced that their solo-everything build is perfect because they need their self heals and armor, conveniently forgetting that the point of group content is to have healers and tanks taking care of that for you so you can focus on damage.

How would you feel if someone came up to you and said “Hi, I’ve never met you but I don’t trust that you can do your job to heal me so I’m slotting self heals to keep myslef alive. Also I’m offended that people don’t trust me to do my job and are implying my damage is low.”

Numbers also say that for the highest echelons of content (hard mode trials after Kyne’s), there honestly isn’t much wiggle room either - they’re balanced around groups which are able to put out obscene amounts of damage. And there, that “7 seconds of difference” is also the difference between a group wipe from Taleria’s mages being up too long and a clear.

You’re never going to get rid of toxicity. Ever. But if there wasn’t such a huge gap between the top build and the next one, then people would be more used to seeing other ways than what the 0.0001% of players do. If the balance were better, people would be less gatekeepy.