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Re: Subclassing vs Base Classing - Ideas & Potential
The game was built around pure classes, subclassing had brought more power creep than ten years of patches in one instant.
The easy answer is to reduce the effectiveness of subclassed skill lines with something like a percent modifier and bring them in line with the power of previous builds, but I don’t think that will ever happen. The whole game, overland, delves, public dungeons, group dungeons, and trials will either have be increased in difficulty to address the power creep, which is a monumental task, and then it will be too hard for pure classes, or it will be left alone and too easy for subclassed builds.
We’ve already heard what the devs have to say though. Everyone is supposed to subclass, if you don’t you’re just left behind. Good luck, though.
The easy answer is to reduce the effectiveness of subclassed skill lines with something like a percent modifier and bring them in line with the power of previous builds, but I don’t think that will ever happen. The whole game, overland, delves, public dungeons, group dungeons, and trials will either have be increased in difficulty to address the power creep, which is a monumental task, and then it will be too hard for pure classes, or it will be left alone and too easy for subclassed builds.
We’ve already heard what the devs have to say though. Everyone is supposed to subclass, if you don’t you’re just left behind. Good luck, though.
Re: [REQUEST] Permanent Vengeance Test Campaign
SaffronCitrusflower wrote: »Could keeping Vengeance 4 on live be viable?
Let's say, once V4 is on live in December, it remains accessible until after the V5 PTS testing. Then, if necessary, it goes down for a week or two to allow for adding new features.
Would it lead to an avalanche of support tickets about corrupted characters and items missing from inventories?
Would it make players complain about new features because they got used to a certain ruleset?
Would it trigger even more complaints about unbalanced classes and skills?
No. ZOS isn't going to support two different versions of cyodiil long term. They're just not going to. Sooner or later it will be one or the other, and vengeance isn't going to fly with the current PvP players, and the PvE players won't play vengeance either. They don't like PvP or they'd already be playing it.
Why is this so hard to understand for the vengeance supporters? This is why vengeance has to be opposed in every possible way at every opportunity.
Then why did so many PvE players who hate GreyHost played and enjoyed Vengeance?
Them not playing PvP doesn’t mean they do not like any PvP, only that they dislike current PvP. Otherwise „GreyHost players don‘t like PvP or they would play Vengeance“ would be true. Players just like different version of PvP.
There are quite a few current and a lot more former PvPer preferring Vengeance (but that probably autoturns them into nonPvPer).
Nobody wanting to play Vengeance is „hard to understand“for Vengeance supporters because they’re living prove it is not true.
Iriidius
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Re: [REQUEST] Permanent Vengeance Test Campaign
Erickson9610 wrote: »If they really test them alongside each other, thats finally the first representative Vengeance test. If there is only one campaign of course everyone would be in that one campaign, with the choice given we will see how popular Vengeance actually is among those who regulary play PvP.
What if Vengeance really is more populated than regular Cyrodiil? Would people then say that it's just because Vengeance is new that it is more popular?
Sure they would, Vengeance is failed, empty and dead unless they are pop locket every night at 4am with 4digit queue and GreyHost with a third that capacity most popular ever
campaign because it gets full in evening.
Iriidius
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Re: Would you like Zerith Var's favour to not be hidden behind winning a ToT match?
From my point of view ToT fits in ESO as well as a 'EuroTamrieltruck Simulator' minigame would.
Except this I might actually play.
I would play a mini-game where I could drive a cart full of prisoners through the forest on their way to an execution.
Re: Would you like Zerith Var's favour to not be hidden behind winning a ToT match?
ToT is a truly awful game. Having a companions favour locked behind it is a terrible game design decision IMO.
Re: You can rollback a feature of the game. You choose:
I wouldn't "roll back" anything per se, but I wouldn't mind seeing adjustments to certain things, such as adding an option for 4v4v4 BGs while keeping 4v4 as an option-- if that's possible; there might be reasons (such as queuing issues) why it wasn't done that way to begin with.
The one update that really affected my overall gameplay was the one some years ago which made changes to resource use, such as skills requiring more resources than before and (I think) resources not regenerating as quickly. After that update it took a while for me to get back to (for example) being able to solo-capture resources in Cyrodiil, and even today I often find myself getting "stamina-locked" (or whatever players call it) where I don't have enough stamina to fire off any skills, can't do heavy attacks quickly enough to restore any appreciable amount of stamina, can't break free of CCs, can't dodge or block attacks, etc., and it just makes for a very miserable and rage-inducing experience. I don't know that I would roll back that old update, but I'd certainly love to see some adjustments made to alleviate the severity and lasting negative impact from it.
The one update that really affected my overall gameplay was the one some years ago which made changes to resource use, such as skills requiring more resources than before and (I think) resources not regenerating as quickly. After that update it took a while for me to get back to (for example) being able to solo-capture resources in Cyrodiil, and even today I often find myself getting "stamina-locked" (or whatever players call it) where I don't have enough stamina to fire off any skills, can't do heavy attacks quickly enough to restore any appreciable amount of stamina, can't break free of CCs, can't dodge or block attacks, etc., and it just makes for a very miserable and rage-inducing experience. I don't know that I would roll back that old update, but I'd certainly love to see some adjustments made to alleviate the severity and lasting negative impact from it.
Re: Future of Battlegrounds
Without 3-Team Battlegrounds, this game is basically dysfunctional Guild Wars 2. I'm sorry. I had to say it. I have contributed to these conversations regarding PVP in Elder Scrolls Online and everything regarding this game's unique identity regarding combat, thematics and PVP have been stripped away. Having 3-Team Battlegrounds was a unique feature that was a non-negotiable when it comes to content. The fact that it was removed for generic 2-Team Battlegrounds which exists in basically every game/genre (We Valorant now, boys.) pits this game against competition that it never had to worry about. 3-Team Battlegrounds was a lot of things, but nobody could deny that it was unique in the MMORPG space. Now we have dysfunctional PVP that now appears to be trying very hard to be WoW or GW2 (both games that can support a vastly larger amount of players on screen in their respective PVE and PVP content). Since ESO is essentially only viable as a small-scale PVE and PVP instanced game, having 2-Team and 3-Team Battlegrounds as options together would have been the right call. However removing the established Battlegrounds vision and replacing it with something generic greatly hinders the experiences for a vast majority of players. Nobody likes 4v4 and 8v8 is just queue for rewards and hope it ends soon.
Oh, and nobody go and say that the current meta is high damage. The last Capture the Relic 8v8 I did last week had unkillable players walking about just grabbing relics and jogging across the map. Whether they tooled their stats or actually were that tanky to sustain being dogpiled by an entire team solo doesn't matter. It's unfun PVP. I get it, though. People who advocate for this system secretly want PVP put down and they've succeeded.
Oh, and nobody go and say that the current meta is high damage. The last Capture the Relic 8v8 I did last week had unkillable players walking about just grabbing relics and jogging across the map. Whether they tooled their stats or actually were that tanky to sustain being dogpiled by an entire team solo doesn't matter. It's unfun PVP. I get it, though. People who advocate for this system secretly want PVP put down and they've succeeded.
Re: Future of Battlegrounds
In 4v4v4 most people queued for the pvp, so they kept at it despite the meager rewards. In two-teams players leave as soon as they get whatever shinies were used to lure them into situations like this:
Well said.
4v4v4 was intense. These bgs, described by zos as 'LESS INTENSE' Aren't for us. They just arent. That's why we dislike them, I believe.
The sad reality is that zos doesnt care about what we want. We are no longer their target audience. PVE Timmy and PVE Tammy Tamriel are.
The sweats that enjoy this just take advantage of the PVE crowd. I dont know why.
It stinks. But it is what it is.
Re: Where are the Sweepers and Soul Reapers?
I used to see them all over the place and haven't seen any in ages. Xbox NA
Mik195
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