Would you like Zerith Var's favour to not be hidden behind winning a ToT match?

Recent · September 21

Recent · September 21

Yes I would like to not have to win a match to gain Zerith Var's favour, just play 1 novice match but not have to win.

Having to play an online card game to gain favour with our companion feel wrong to me.
Imagine wanting to win a baseball cap as a reward and having to win a basketball game. It does not make sense to me cos not all of us can play those online card games. My brain must be broken cos I can't cope with ToT and yes I tried, did the beginner quest on many alts.

I studied guides on how to play tot but I can't do it. I also dont want to spend time on something I dont enjoy ...tot takes time and I want to play eso NOT a card game.

BretonMage · September 21

No, I like it the way it is.

I'm ok with having to do things outside my comfort zone a couple of times for a perk I really want.

(Having said that, not playing TOT is a convenient way to avoid having every single heavy sack highlighted everywhere I go).

LunaFlora · September 21

No, I like it the way it is.

Zerith likes Tales of Tribute, that is why we need to win one Tribute game for his Favour achievement.
it is a minigame inside Elder Scrolls Online, it is ESO. i really dislike PvP and am not very good at it, still part of the game anyways.

You did not specify the difficulties with Tribute so i will give some advice and link guides i like.
What helped for me was playing lots of novice games with NPCs. i did not and still do not always win, but win more now than i did at the start.
it can help to primarily get cards from 1 Patron deck so you can get combos which get extra Gold Coin, Power, and/or Prestige.
My favourite decks are Duke of Crows and Pelin as they both give good amounts of Power, Crow also Gold along with Power.

Always useful to spend 2 Gold on the Treasury so you can get the Writ of Coin cards, they each give 2 Gold so the more you get the more cards you can purchase during the game.

here are some guide videos if by chance you did not see these:

https://youtu.be/MVYhShEzfpQ?si=VYO9Rt0xJNWYMdu9
https://fextralife.com/eso-high-isle-tales-of-tribute-tcg-beginner-guide/
^ written guide that was linked under the video.

https://youtu.be/f5ANhiRk5kw?si=Rl94wWcqtz0YT2ay

the playlist i linked has videos on the play board, patrons, cards.

spartaxoxo · September 21

No, I like it the way it is.

Tales of Tribute is a part of ESO in both lore and gameplay. All game modes should be connected to the lore and rewarding to do. There's not one right way to have fun and all players deserve to have a fun and rewarding experience with the activities they love. If you don't like a piece of content, just skip it. It's not a big deal to not have every reward in the game.

bmnoble · September 21

Other suggestion on how tZerith's favour could be earned, different to how it works now.

I have done all the current ones I think there should be multiple ways to earn companion keepsakes not a fixed list of requirements, something similar to the way golden pursuits work with multiple activities to choose from.

And preferably a way to toggle them on or off in collections, part of me regrets getting Zerith's one with all the glowing heavy sacks everywhere, especially the ones you can't get to that spawn inside terrain.

alakeyfox · September 21

I've maxxed out his favour without playing ToT at all, so not sure this is even an issue?

licenturion · September 21

No, I like it the way it is.

alakeyfox wrote: »

I've maxxed out his favour without playing ToT at all, so not sure this is even an issue?

It is possible. It is just way waaaaaaaaay slower because the daily bigger rapport chunk is behind ToT

It don’t mind though. I got pushed out of my comfort zones a few times in the past with gameplay systems and it made me play the game differently and do a lot more activities, which was probably the devs/desginers point.

Diebesgut · September 21

Yes I would like to not have to win a match to gain Zerith Var's favour, just play 1 novice match but not have to win.

... took me 8 hours to win one stupid game by luck.
i will never touch this cardgame again...

Hapexamendios · September 21

I would have, but I already did it. It sucked.

SkaiFaith · September 21

I avoided ToT for a long time and only started it because of Zerith - I now enjoy it. "Working as intended" I would say.

But I am not an expert player at all, and I am not grinding for the whole quest line, so my disappointment is more about the other rewards locked behind it: the dog, the dye, etc... BUT obviously I get it, there needs to be rewards tied to ToT, so I'm not gonna complain.

Hamish999 · September 21

Yes I would like to not have to win a match to gain Zerith Var's favour, just play 1 novice match but not have to win.

ToT is a truly awful game. Having a companions favour locked behind it is a terrible game design decision IMO.

redlink1979 · September 21

Yes I would like to not have to win a match to gain Zerith Var's favour, just play 1 novice match but not have to win.

This is why I rather complete the Defense Force quest for the favour.

https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Online:Zerith-var

DenverRalphy · September 21

No, I like it the way it is.

alakeyfox wrote: »

I've maxxed out his favour without playing ToT at all, so not sure this is even an issue?

You may have maxed out his Rapport. But you can't get the Zerith-Var's Favor Achievement without playing ToT. Which in turn is required for The Twilight Path achievement. Both of which are required to get Zerith-Var's companion trinket which grants you his perk.

ApoAlaia · September 21

Yes I would like to not have to win a match to gain Zerith Var's favour, just play 1 novice match but not have to win.

ToT is not as much 'out of my comfort zone' as it is 'completely out of my radar'.

The only reason I got this unlocked is because a friend kindly told me what cards to play, both to unlock the dailies and to get the thing done.

From my point of view ToT fits in ESO as well as a 'EuroTamrieltruck Simulator' minigame would.

Except this I might actually play.

AlwaysDancing · September 21

ApoAlaia wrote: »

From my point of view ToT fits in ESO as well as a 'EuroTamrieltruck Simulator' minigame would.

Except this I might actually play.

I would play a mini-game where I could drive a cart full of prisoners through the forest on their way to an execution.

scrappy1342 · September 21

Other suggestion on how tZerith's favour could be earned, different to how it works now.

had no idea this was a thing. had to look it up. i see nothing wrong with it. it's only one or two games? the only thing that irks me is that it probably should have been done on a companion that is tied to that chapter >.> you can have zerith var without having access to high isle/ToT so that part seems silly to me

Dithieon · September 21

Yes I would like to not have to win a match to gain Zerith Var's favour, just play 1 novice match but not have to win.

This is the only reason I don't have the perk; no great loss, Azander's perk is far better,by leaps and bounds imo.

Syldras · September 21

Other suggestion on how tZerith's favour could be earned, different to how it works now.

Lorewise, the task fits, since Zerith seems to love that card game, and it makes sense that an achievement task about gaining a companion's favor is related to that companion's personal interests and likes.

If it's about a game activity one absolutely doesn't care for or even dislikes, that's unfortunate, of course. And I personally don't enjoy ToT at all. Nothing against people who like it, since I know they exist and that's valid, but I personally get bored very fast when playing it and would rather use my limited play time to do things in ESO that I actually enjoy.

As a solution they could just give us a wider variety of tasks, without the need to complete all of them. Make if 7 out of 10 or so, so if one dislikes one of them completely, one could just skip that one and it would still be fine.

I know that technically it must be possible. The achievement list for the upcoming Wall event is already in game, and it has an achievement tied to killing any 15 enemies from a very long list (didn't count it, but I think it's 25 to 30 enemy names in total, but we only need to defeat some of them, and the achievement will be unlocked).

whitecrow · September 21

Yes I would like to not have to win a match to gain Zerith Var's favour, just play 1 novice match but not have to win.

I understand that it is part of lore and the world, but I just hate this game. I don't understand it, have no idea what I am doing when I play, and it just goes on and on until I forfeit or lose. It's a shame because Zerith is my favorite companion by far.

Mik195 · September 21

Yes I would like to not have to win a match to gain Zerith Var's favour, just play 1 novice match but not have to win.

Having to win a game to get a favor from a companion you paid for is horrible. Having to do the intro quest would be better.

cyclonus11 · September 21

No, I like it the way it is.

licenturion wrote: »

alakeyfox wrote: »

I've maxxed out his favour without playing ToT at all, so not sure this is even an issue?

It is possible. It is just way waaaaaaaaay slower because the daily bigger rapport chunk is behind ToT

The Defense Force quest in Grahtwood gives you just as much

DenverRalphy · September 21

No, I like it the way it is.

All you need to do is beat a novice npc once to complete a ToT daily. Novice NPC's bend over backwards to hand over the win. And despite the hype, the rules and mechanics aren't as complicated as some would make it out to be. The only reason they appear complicated at first is because they seem somewhat arbitrary.

Not that I'm trying to sell anybody on it. Just that it's really not as much of a hurdle to get the achievement as some would like to believe. Heck, the Beggar objective typically takes more time than the ToT objective.

SilverBride · September 21

I don't have Zerith Var, but I don't think anything should require ToT that isn't directly related to ToT, such as leads etc..

AcadianPaladin · September 21

Yes I would like to not have to win a match to gain Zerith Var's favour, just play 1 novice match but not have to win.

I've passed on his perk since I've no interest in ToT. I did the tutorial when it came out, learned how to play, played a dozen or so games and concluded I had no interest in it and did not enjoy it. So I don't play it anymore.

Not a big deal as heavy sacks normally only contain musty grain and spuds.

alakeyfox · September 21

DenverRalphy wrote: »

alakeyfox wrote: »

I've maxxed out his favour without playing ToT at all, so not sure this is even an issue?

You may have maxed out his Rapport. But you can't get the Zerith-Var's Favor Achievement without playing ToT. Which in turn is required for The Twilight Path achievement. Both of which are required to get Zerith-Var's companion trinket which grants you his perk.

Didn't know that, thanks. But from that page it says "Complete any Tales of Tribute Daily Quest with Zerith", meaning you could just play a match vs an NPC, in which case I definitely think it's perfectly fine as is. If it was forced to be a PvP match, I'd have more of an issue with it.

Razmirra · September 21

Other suggestion on how tZerith's favour could be earned, different to how it works now.

Play a match of ToT, be it ranked/casual or even an NPC of any skill level.

thatnewcatsmell · September 21

Other suggestion on how tZerith's favour could be earned, different to how it works now.

I would have preferred a different task (e.g. killing a dragon or completing an arc in IA) because ToT never caught my interest since its release and after unlocking it for Zerith and playing a couple of matches for the achievement and rapport I can honestly say I'm still not interested in ToT.

Recent · September 21

Yes I would like to not have to win a match to gain Zerith Var's favour, just play 1 novice match but not have to win.

spartaxoxo wrote: »

Tales of Tribute is a part of ESO in both lore and gameplay. All game modes should be connected to the lore and rewarding to do. There's not one right way to have fun and all players deserve to have a fun and rewarding experience with the activities they love. If you don't like a piece of content, just skip it. It's not a big deal to not have every reward in the game.

Trust me, I do not chase every reward in the game but imagine am working on having all companions to max level and max rep. I got zerith to level 20,so he feels incomplete without his favour. I like him a lot cos he is khajiit and a necromancer plus I love his personality lol.

I respect many players enjoy tot, why I made sure my poll reflects that. I made an option for those that enjoy it or are happy with it as is to vote that way.

Thank you for your reply and I'm happy that you are able to play tot and win sometimes. I wish you well on your adventures

Recent · September 21

Yes I would like to not have to win a match to gain Zerith Var's favour, just play 1 novice match but not have to win.

bmnoble wrote: »

I have done all the current ones I think there should be multiple ways to earn companion keepsakes not a fixed list of requirements, something similar to the way golden pursuits work with multiple activities to choose from.

And preferably a way to toggle them on or off in collections, part of me regrets getting Zerith's one with all the glowing heavy sacks everywhere, especially the ones you can't get to that spawn inside terrain.

Yes, thank you. I love zerith as a companion and I honestly have tried to play tot. I dont enjoy pvp much either but I can do quests and such on midyear mayhem, it's doable for me but tot is painful for me.

I like your idea of having different options on how to win the companions favour.

DenverRalphy · September 21

No, I like it the way it is.

Even if the ToT requirement were changed to another activity, a different subset of players would just offer up their own objections to deomonstrate their dislike towards whichever other activity were put in its place.

Sometimes ya just gotta accept that not everything is going to be tailored to your personal tastes.

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