Best Of
Re: Are you all enjoying this undaunted event? ( pls share your experiences)
Honestly, I love this event. Always do.
It's a great excuse to finish up some dungeons on alts, a wonderful way to flesh out dungeon sets that I haven't finished collecting yet, and a chance to mess around with characters that I don't normally play.
Also, this community is very kind. I hadn't completed Vaults of Madness on five of my seven characters, and that quest is ROUGH. It and Blackheart Haven have never been tweaked to accommodate "gotta go fast" dungeon groups, so you have to hope that people are merciful enough to wait for you to talk to npcs. Each time... you guys and gals waited for me, with nary a complaint or eye-roll.
Only goofy goober complaint I have is that instead of moving old opal styles into a catch-up sack, they're getting left in the standard loot tables for undaunted rewards. So each time this event is held, the statistical probability of getting one of the new opal style pages is worse and worse... which sucks. The event doesn't give enough tickets to buy them all, so you have to hope that the RNG gods favor you... and the odds just keep getting crueler as time goes on.
But otherwise, enjoying the heck out of it. Genuinely.
It's a great excuse to finish up some dungeons on alts, a wonderful way to flesh out dungeon sets that I haven't finished collecting yet, and a chance to mess around with characters that I don't normally play.
Also, this community is very kind. I hadn't completed Vaults of Madness on five of my seven characters, and that quest is ROUGH. It and Blackheart Haven have never been tweaked to accommodate "gotta go fast" dungeon groups, so you have to hope that people are merciful enough to wait for you to talk to npcs. Each time... you guys and gals waited for me, with nary a complaint or eye-roll.
Only goofy goober complaint I have is that instead of moving old opal styles into a catch-up sack, they're getting left in the standard loot tables for undaunted rewards. So each time this event is held, the statistical probability of getting one of the new opal style pages is worse and worse... which sucks. The event doesn't give enough tickets to buy them all, so you have to hope that the RNG gods favor you... and the odds just keep getting crueler as time goes on.
But otherwise, enjoying the heck out of it. Genuinely.
Re: Tone-deaf AUA on Reddit
Its about somehow missing the plotRkindaleft wrote: »I was mystified by the answers.
The comments about the sets were perplexing enough however the comments about 'having to nerf substantially the consumables if they were to touch them'... I can't wrap my head around that.
'Have to' why? based on what logic? and who is the intended audience? more importantly who is 'making you do it'?
However it does explain why I find some changes baffling. They weren't intended for us the players. They were for whomever is 'making them do it'.
It makes zero sense. They dropped Subclassing with pretty much no consideration about how it would affect combat, giving everyone who uses it properly a massive power boost, but they won't hybridize potions and food because it "could" be too strong? What's the logic here?
In part its an skill issue
And yes this happened then playing Oblivion. Lex randomly wandered in at the end of the thief guild quest line.
zaria
4
Re: Rich Lambert's Comments About The Current State of Balance
His comments seem to address the meta in group-based PvE. What about players who (used to) enjoy PvP?
After participating on the forums for about a decade, Khajiit thinks that most players who primarily PvP have never enjoyed it.
Re: Rich Lambert's Comments About The Current State of Balance
I'd agree with lambert but everyone else's posts here make more sense. I don't even think he pvp's. I don't even know if he plays with other players or if they just use the private dev server.
In vacuum his words do make sense indeed, but when it clashes with actual player experience it starts to make less and less sense.
Meta isn't necessary - correct, meta will be always there in some form or another no matter balancing, that's the nature of life basically.
Broken builds are fine and fun, this can be in the game to some extent.
Yes, to a new player the amount of options could be "mind blowing". That's kind of the point of action RPG games to some extent.
But minus promotional speech for the new players (which is 100% of all interviews ever) it clashes into reality.
Meta isn't some wild beast, it's just an optimal route to the destination. It's not the problem in itself to even mention - the amount of noob traps for the new players are, who can fall into them and proceed to the absurd levels and not see an issue until they're met with other players at some level and hitting a wall they had no idea existed as overland and easier solo and group content is clearable without an issue on literally no build at all.
Broken builds aren't there apart from PvP really, anything going 1% over the new spreadsheet iteration gets mercilessly nerfed where in result some niche damage types and play styles became obsolete, at some cases completely so. A lot of them lost their colours so to speak when two easily accessible crafted sets can be infinitely better than most trial and dungeon gear game has to offer. I still remember dot standardisation that was around elsweyr essentially killing off entire archetypes, needing skills to the new standards but the next patch due to excessive new damage caps in both PvP and PvE it's got changed again, but most stuff that was nerfed over the first iteration never recovered and was forgotten, essentially. Same stuff happened a lot over the years and backlog of broken stuff is glaring, that's most of the things in the game now percentage wise. And broken not in a fun, unique way giving amazing possibilities to build craft as you'd want in RPG game. Just made bad.
Sorry this topic is living rent free today in my head after AUA and all of that lmao.
Re: [REQUEST] Permanent Vengeance Test Campaign
If they really test them alongside each other, thats finally the first representative Vengeance test. If there is only one campaign of course everyone would be in that one campaign, with the choice given we will see how popular Vengeance actually is among those who regulary play PvP.
Well the vengeance 4 test 2nd week overlapping with live will show what is preferred GH or vengeance. Since it is the 2nd week hopefully enough event people will leave and give better data on which is preferred. Will GH survive if all the pugs decide to stay in vengeance? Who knows, at that point GH probably just becomes a 12v12v12 bg match of ball groups with 1vX players sitting around bored with nothing to do.....which is basically what live is most nights.
Regardless of preference or not vengeance development would still be needed for performance data, zos needs it as a tool to turn on and off systems. Ideally vengeance is only used to develop new systems one at a time and then implemented into live pvp. For instance they already reworked the unmorphed skill code, once you finish making morphs you could replace the bloated poorly coded live skills.
Re: Why do you think the ESO dev discussion happened on Reddit and not here (WRONG ANSWERS ONLY)
IMO gaming companies have their game discussions on off-site platforms because they want a controlled safe space where they won't get hit with the worst of the feedback from the dedicated players who actually play the game. Bungie devs basically did the same thing with Destiny - they had their own forums, but feedback from their forums was often ignored in favor of feedback from sites like Reddit.
I also think that some of this could be due to bias towards incorporating advice from streamers and their followers vs. the average gamer.
I also think that some of this could be due to bias towards incorporating advice from streamers and their followers vs. the average gamer.
Re: Writhing Wall Event Date
Thank you for responding.
That is the island where the two kings and the queen met before Cold Harbor, yes?
Yes. The island will get a wayshrine when the event starts.
Syldras
2
Re: Are you all enjoying this undaunted event? ( pls share your experiences)
That's how I did the DLC quests with pugs. I'd go to the dungeon myself, pick up the quest, and listen to all the dialogue from the quest giver. Then I'd queue for that dungeon.
For the DLC dungeons, you really only miss out on optional dialogue along the way. There's usually time at the end to listen to all the dialogue from the NPC that completes the quest, even if the rest of the group drops.
Unfortunately it doesn't work for the base game dungeons because you usually have to talk to NPCs along the way.
For the DLC dungeons, you really only miss out on optional dialogue along the way. There's usually time at the end to listen to all the dialogue from the NPC that completes the quest, even if the rest of the group drops.
Unfortunately it doesn't work for the base game dungeons because you usually have to talk to NPCs along the way.
AzuraFan
1
Re: Rich Lambert's Comments About The Current State of Balance
He's right.What does everyone think?
So do you think that balancing is not important because a "meta" doesn't need to be followed?
I think it's a true statement that meta doesn't need to be followed. In practice that means you will do lower damage than you could be doing in trials, you might not make it on to teams, and you'll be outmatched in PvP constantly. This argument doesn't address the fact that in certain environments, performance measured against other players matters. Most people don't want to be unnecessarily gimped. They are essentially punishing being creative when creative builds underperform so much compared to what's meta.
you can try to balance as much as you want, there will allways be a meta.
People even choose a race where they get just a small benefit over another race, therefore if the second best build would be 1% less effectiv they would still just use the meta build
There will always be a meta, but how close the options are determine how vibrant and interesting it is.
Right now, the options are world's apart and the meta is stagnant. Even builds that can theoretically outperform beam can only do so for a vanishingly small number of players.
And beaming is the most boring way to do damage.
Re: Let us Devour our Companions (or use other corpse abilities on them)
I wouldn't be opposed to that, but what happens after that specific turn of events is taken care of and the need to cooperate no longer exists? Does the story end there and we all go our separate ways, or do we have to then figure out what to do with the "bad guy who helped us this once"? I know that's a simplistic representation, but depending on the "badness" of the npc in question, how do we resolve the matter once the need for cooperation is gone?
Probably part ways, in most of the cases? It really depends on the situation. I don't want to derail this thread too much.
Yeah, I was thinking we were getting close to derailing the thread. I'll bow out and let the werewolves continue to make their case.
I do want to stress that this thread isn't solely about werewolves. It also applies to Templars and Necromancers who would want their Companion to count as a corpse.
