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Removal of Proc Sets from PvP Confirmed!

raasdal
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I am personally super hyped about this. I was concerned that they would do individual "balancing". You know, reducing damage on that set, increasing cooldown on this set, etc. etc. - which would just be a bandaid. I am very excited about the decision they took on just removing the proc ability on sets alltogether, when in Cyrodiil. RIP proc addicts.Cant wait for the update to hit the servers...
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    Don't know if drunk or just trolling
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  • starlizard70ub17_ESO
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    So all those people rolling with Red Mountain, Viper or VD with have to rethink their options now >:)
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  • raasdal
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    So all those people rolling with Red Mountain, Viper or VD with have to rethink their options now >:)

    VD is confirmed to still be working though, which makes sense, since it is purely PvP targeted. But yeah, RM and Viper will be junk. :)
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  • OldGamerESO
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    I thought you were pulling our leg, but I checked your post history and you seem like a legit guy. Could you tell us where you are seeing/hearing this? It is great news!
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    Skylårk / Bosmer NB
    Skylörd / Khajiit Sorcerer
    Elizabeth Skylark / Breton Templar
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  • Kutsuu
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    Going to have to assume this is a troll post without you posting a source. Just saying "confirmed" doesn't mean anything.
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  • UrbanMonk
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    In another post someone from ZOS said that they are looking into fixing viper in a future update but tha's all about it....so this post for now...

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  • raasdal
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    It was confirmed yesterday in an interview with the german community manager. It is in german, but will try to find a link when i am at my desktop in about an hour.
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    Dexion Velus - Dragonknight - AD
    Chalaux Erissa - Nightblade - AD
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  • SkylarkX
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    raasdal wrote: »
    It was confirmed yesterday in an interview with the german community manager. It is in german, but will try to find a link when i am at my desktop in about an hour.

    So this would be the next major update?
    Nocturnal - Oceanic PvX Guild
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    Skylårk / Bosmer NB
    Skylörd / Khajiit Sorcerer
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  • Lava_Croft
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    No source, no confirmation.

    Hello, internet.
  • Sandman929
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    raasdal wrote: »
    It was confirmed yesterday in an interview with the german community manager. It is in german, but will try to find a link when i am at my desktop in about an hour.

    Cautious optimism...show me the german.
  • White wabbit
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    Hmm not sure if this will go down well
  • Asardes
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    Also:
    - lag eliminated
    - loading screens capped at 30s
    - group finder fixed
    - classes balanced
    - elixir of eternal youth and philosopher's stone discovered
    - pigs make their first self-powered flight
    Beta tester since February 2014, played ESO-TU October 2015 - August 2022, currently on an extended break
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    Sabina Flavia Cosades | 50 Imperial Warden | EP AR 20 |
    Ervesa Neloren | 50 Dark Elf Dragonknight | EP AR 20 |
    Fendar Khodwin | 50 Redguard Sorcerer | DC AR 20 |
    Surilanwe of Lillandril | 50 High Elf Nightblade | AD AR 20 |
    Joleen the Swift | 50 Redguard Templar | DC AR 20 |
    Draynor Telvanni | 50 Dark Elf Warden | EP AR 20 |
    Claudius Tharn | 50 Necromancer | DC AR 20 |
    Nazura-la the Bonedancer | 50 Necromancer | AD AR 20 |

    Tharkul gro-Shug | 50 Orc Dragonknight | DC AR 4 |
    Ushruka gra-Lhurgash | 50 Orc Sorcerer | AD AR 4 |
    Cienwen ferch Llywelyn | 50 Breton Nightblade | DC AR 4 |
    Plays-with-Sunray | 50 Argonian Templar | EP AR 4 |
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  • Xerton
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    Asardes wrote: »
    Also:
    - lag eliminated
    - loading screens capped at 30s
    - group finder fixed
    - classes balanced
    - elixir of eternal youth and philosopher's stone discovered
    - pigs make their first self-powered flight

    you forgot:
    • worlds food problem solved
    • working hoverboard built
    • destruction staff ultimate nerfed
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    vMoL HM (Nuke); vSO HM; vHRC HM; vAA HM; vDSA - cleared
    vMSA - cleared on all classes mag+stam
  • Biro123
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    Damn.. guess I'll have to L2P now!
    Minalan owes me a beer.

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  • Moglijuana
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    If this is true...<3
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  • Asardes
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    HL3 available for preorder!
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    Valinor Overflow: Trader
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    Characters:
    Asardes | 50 Nord Dragonknight | EP AR 50 | Master Crafter: all traits & recipes, all styles released before High Isle
    Alxaril Nelcarion | 50 High Elf Sorcerer | AD AR 20 |
    Dro'Bear Three-paws | 50 Khajiit Nightblade | AD AR 20 |
    Veronique Nicole | 50 Breton Templar | DC AR 20 |
    Sabina Flavia Cosades | 50 Imperial Warden | EP AR 20 |
    Ervesa Neloren | 50 Dark Elf Dragonknight | EP AR 20 |
    Fendar Khodwin | 50 Redguard Sorcerer | DC AR 20 |
    Surilanwe of Lillandril | 50 High Elf Nightblade | AD AR 20 |
    Joleen the Swift | 50 Redguard Templar | DC AR 20 |
    Draynor Telvanni | 50 Dark Elf Warden | EP AR 20 |
    Claudius Tharn | 50 Necromancer | DC AR 20 |
    Nazura-la the Bonedancer | 50 Necromancer | AD AR 20 |

    Tharkul gro-Shug | 50 Orc Dragonknight | DC AR 4 |
    Ushruka gra-Lhurgash | 50 Orc Sorcerer | AD AR 4 |
    Cienwen ferch Llywelyn | 50 Breton Nightblade | DC AR 4 |
    Plays-with-Sunray | 50 Argonian Templar | EP AR 4 |
    Milariel | 50 Wood Elf Warden | AD AR 4 |
    Scheei-Jul | 50 Necromancer | EP AR 4 |

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  • Paraflex
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    Well if this is true it be nice if one of the devs commented on this
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  • Alucardo
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    For the love of god, please don't let this be a troll post
  • Waffennacht
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    So the whole Wrobel, "we want people to go into PvE and PvP without having to change..." is a bunch of BS huh?

    So if they decided to just go back on their word in all previous comments, can we now have PvE only skills and PvP only skills?
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  • Alucardo
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    Oh wait, you're the same guy who told us Battlegrounds were coming.....
  • Koolio
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    So why did I just do dailies everyday for inpenetrable just to not even be able to use infernal guardian. What about Alchemist Kena and everything else that "procs" . SPC is a "proc" Transmutation VD.
  • SturgeHammer
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    So the whole Wrobel, "we want people to go into PvE and PvP without having to change..." is a bunch of BS huh?

    So if they decided to just go back on their word in all previous comments, can we now have PvE only skills and PvP only skills?

    There are currently sets that exist, like Marksmen's Crest, that have conditional effects based on your target being a player. It probably wouldn't be too far of a jump for ZOS to make the reverse, conditional effects based on your target being a non-player.

    As far as class and weapon skills go, ZOS will probably keep their word on that and not make any of those pvp/pve conditional.
    Edited by SturgeHammer on 17 November 2016 16:42
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  • Waffennacht
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    Koolio wrote: »
    So why did I just do dailies everyday for inpenetrable just to not even be able to use infernal guardian. What about Alchemist Kena and everything else that "procs" . SPC is a "proc" Transmutation VD.

    Oh @$!# didn't even think about the impen trait...

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  • Sandman929
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    So the whole Wrobel, "we want people to go into PvE and PvP without having to change..." is a bunch of BS huh?

    So if they decided to just go back on their word in all previous comments, can we now have PvE only skills and PvP only skills?

    There are currently sets that exist, like Marksmen's Crest, that have conditional effects based on your target being a player. It probably wouldn't be too far of a jump for ZOS to make the reverse, conditional effects based on your target being a non-player.

    As far as class and weapon skills go, ZOS will probably keep their word on that and not make any of those pvp/pve conditional.

    Exactly, not that I actually believe any of this at the moment. Procs like Kena, Clever Alchemist, etc. are different in that they don't proc direct damage. Marksman is selective against NPCs, VD is selective toward other players. There's a separation already in place for many sets as far as what works on player characters and what works on NPC's.
    Edited by Sandman929 on 17 November 2016 16:47
  • ZOS_RichLambert
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    Proc sets are not being removed from PVP... we have other ideas and when we've tested them, we will share the changes.
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  • Sandman929
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    And just like that...the dream is crushed. Thanks for the official word though.
  • Paraflex
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    Thanks Rich for the update it's all we needed to know!
    Edited by Paraflex on 17 November 2016 16:49
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    Max Stam Sorc
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    Don't care to dps much so I heal.


  • Rohamad_Ali
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    Where is the source ?
  • Sandman929
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    Proc sets are not being removed from PVP... we have other ideas and when we've tested them, we will share the changes.

    Just out of curiousity, were they tested before they were introduced?
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