how the ___ Do you use the templates?(got it sorted but auto inflicted w/ WW and don't appreciate it) ... i cant find any way to access, see, or the like.
I would prefer to use my own chars but if you want our help give use the tools, and make it easy.
I am even a member of a group asked for feed back directly but can't test properly .... not to mention. even if i wanted to test or check out a certain area ... i would have to rediscover it from the beginning after rerolling a new toon... not going to walk all the way to the capital to find the cart then walk all the way to DSA to do you a favour... I have a guild (I am the GM) and would actually like to find them or friends on the Test Server and try ...things ... but not contacts or othewrwise. i was considering trying a crime wave scenario w/ my guild, but can't promote it if cant have chars and or contacts

ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »

Tomorrow (Tuesday, February 10th) we will be publishing patch 1.6.2 on the PTS. During this time, we will also be copying North American characters from the live server to the PTS. The stamp for the copy is being taken at approximately 8AM EST tomorrow (Tuesday, February 10th). This does mean that European characters will be wiped during the maintenance. VR14 template characters will be available for testing. Also, we plan to have one more character copy (for European characters) next week.

Glad to read that.
Can we expect the patch notes sometime during the maintenance as usual?

ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »

Gyudan wrote: »

Can we expect the patch notes sometime during the maintenance as usual?

Yep! They're currently being localized into French and German.

Great! Can we have them as soon as they are done translating, then?

OK, today is 2/9 /15. NA characters tomorrow. Next week EU character copy and does 1.6.x go live in two weeks, such as 2/23 /15?

SG_Celerrimus wrote: »

ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »

lordrichter wrote: »

Great! Can we have them as soon as they are done translating, then?

That's always the way we do it (plus formatting the post on the forums, but that doesn't take too long.)

For the love of Mara and all the divines, please tell me NPC guards can now be killed, and they are no longer the godlike terror of towns and cities.

No thank you.

Alcast wrote: »

Why is it not possible to get acc copies for EU and NA at the same time? I really do not get it lol.

And instead of copying 70% of inactive accs and people who do not want to go PTS you could set up a formula where you could register yourself for PTS and just copy these accs over..
Now I do have to wait another week to test stuff and we cannot do Trials with our char copies on PTS which does not make it easier

Or what exactly prevents you from copying both NA and EU on the PTS server? Lack of space? Lack of knowledge? what is it?

@‌ZOS_JessicaFolsom

Try copy-pasting something named "My File" into a place where there is already something called "My File". The one that is already there is overwritten; that's most likely what's happening here.

I agree with the suggestion that they could only copy accounts specifically registered for PTS, but then you may end up with a situation where someone from NA and someone from EU has the same character name, and you get "The destination already contains a character called Enodoc. Overwrite it? Y/N" To avoid this you then have to add another step where everything is renamed to "Toon Name[EU]" or something.

Alcast wrote: »

Why is it not possible to get acc copies for EU and NA at the same time? I really do not get it lol.

And instead of copying 70% of inactive accs and people who do not want to go PTS you could set up a formula where you could register yourself for PTS and just copy these accs over..
Now I do have to wait another week to test stuff and we cannot do Trials with our char copies on PTS which does not make it easier

Or what exactly prevents you from copying both NA and EU on the PTS server? Lack of space? Lack of knowledge? what is it?

@‌ZOS_JessicaFolsom

Because your account works on both servers & some players have characters on both. As you can't have more that 8 characters, it would probably cause errors to have both available

Enodoc wrote: »

I agree with the suggestion that they could only copy accounts specifically registered for PTS, but then you may end up with a situation where someone from NA and someone from EU has the same character name, and you get "The destination already contains a character called Enodoc. Overwrite it? Y/N" To avoid this you then have to add another step where everything is renamed to "Toon Name[EU]" or something.

The problem is not really character names. It is database keys. Character "Joe" on NA might have a database key of 521513714674. That key is also on all the database tables that contain Joe's inventory and Joe's achievements and Joe's skill point allocation and Joe's map markers and on and on and on.

Now character "Mary" on EU also has database key 521513714674. How can the PTS tell the difference between database records with key 521513714674 that belong to Joe NA and those that belong to Mary EU? Give Mary EU a new unique key? OK. But what about her inventory and achievements and skill point allocation and map markers and on and on and on? Those would have to be changed to match her new unique key, too. Now we are not talking about a database copy, but updating potentially millions and millions of database records across many, many characters. And then all the database indexes need to be rebuilt so that you can easily link all these database tables together.

And you need a significantly larger amount of disk space to handle two megaserver's worth of data on the single PTS.

It is a lot more complicated process than just renaming "Joe" to "Joe_NA".

It is certainly possible, just not trivial. They would need to put resources on it that they might prefer to keep working on Update 6 or working on console release or working on performance issues in Cyrodiil, etc.

I think they will probably either have to do either:

1). Two PTS servers, one for NA and one for EU, so you can copy without fear of violating unique index constraints,

or,

2). Limit copied characters to those that have logged in the last few weeks so that you have much less data to crank through and update + re-index.

ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »

Alcast wrote: »

Why is it not possible to get acc copies for EU and NA at the same time? I really do not get it lol.

We're working toward being able to do so, but technical limitations prevent us from doing so at this time.

Okay, thank you for the response
It would be crazy to ahve both NA and EU on the private server, that would be a lot of fun.

Kragorn wrote: »

ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »

Alcast wrote: »

Why is it not possible to get acc copies for EU and NA at the same time? I really do not get it lol.

We're working toward being able to do so, but technical limitations prevent us from doing so at this time.

So, are you saying the EU server software is different structurally from the NA servers? Since our characters are, presumably, merely rows and columns in a SQL database it beggars belief you can't mix NA and EU characters on the same software platform.

It has to do with key constraints within the database.

I downloaded and installed the pts client and my characters arent there... Is there something I need to do to initiate the transfer? I'm on NA

xherics wrote: »

This week is for EU players, so yesterday the EU characters has been copied. The announcement at the login screen of PTS client is just wrong.

so if you are from the NA servers, it should show no characters on PTS currently?

elderscrollsonlineub17_ESO8 wrote: »

xherics wrote: »

This week is for EU players, so yesterday the EU characters has been copied. The announcement at the login screen of PTS client is just wrong.

so if you are from the NA servers, it should show no characters on PTS currently?

You can use one of the V14 templates OR you roll a new character.