ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

HippieTheGreat wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Update on the in-game Motif drops:

For now, hold off on learning the Scalecaller Motif or pages until the next incremental patch. For PC, this is scheduled for next Monday. For console, it'll be in about 3 weeks (we have some other fixes going into that patch). If you have a character that is currently unable to learn the Fang Lair Motif - which is tied to learning the Scalecaller Motif first - it should also be resolved in the next patch.

MLGProPlayer wrote: »

MajesticHaruki wrote: »

Fang Lair veteran dungeon, first boss keeps resetting. Can you move some devs from the crown store to the bugfixing department? Thank you...

You can't use pets in that dungeon. They reset all the bosses for some reason. So that means wardens can't complete this content. But it's okay, we're so bad almost no one wants us on their team anyway. Pet sorcs can just respec.

For what it's worth, we're currently working on a fix for this.

@ZOS_GinaBruno So does this mean the crown store version of the motifs will be back on monday as well?

For PC, yes.

Dagoth_Rac wrote: »

It is not clear to me how this affects in-game page drops from dungeon bosses. We can safely learn Fang Lair pages but not Scalecaller? Or is everything bugged and we should not learn any pages of Scalecaller or Fang Lair until after Monday's patch?

Sorry, yes. If you haven't learned Scalecaller yet, you can still learn Fang Lair successfully. Basically what we found is if you learn Scalecaller first, then Fang Lair, that was causing Fang Lair not to work properly.

Do you know whether you can safely learn Scalecaller after learning Fang Lair? And is the bug 1-to-1 (e.g. I learned Scalecaller swords so now I can’t learn Fang Lair swords until the patch) or 1-and-done (e.g. I learned Scalecaller swords so now I can’t learn any Fang Lair until the patch)?

I was really looking forward to buying those two motifs today. Would be nice if they had an 'apology' sale on those two motifs.

Banana wrote: »

What a circus

That about sums up my thoughts as well.

@ZOS_GinaBruno any word on the outstanding community questions on this issue?

jypcy wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

HippieTheGreat wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Update on the in-game Motif drops:

For now, hold off on learning the Scalecaller Motif or pages until the next incremental patch. For PC, this is scheduled for next Monday. For console, it'll be in about 3 weeks (we have some other fixes going into that patch). If you have a character that is currently unable to learn the Fang Lair Motif - which is tied to learning the Scalecaller Motif first - it should also be resolved in the next patch.

MLGProPlayer wrote: »

MajesticHaruki wrote: »

Fang Lair veteran dungeon, first boss keeps resetting. Can you move some devs from the crown store to the bugfixing department? Thank you...

You can't use pets in that dungeon. They reset all the bosses for some reason. So that means wardens can't complete this content. But it's okay, we're so bad almost no one wants us on their team anyway. Pet sorcs can just respec.

For what it's worth, we're currently working on a fix for this.

@ZOS_GinaBruno So does this mean the crown store version of the motifs will be back on monday as well?

For PC, yes.

Dagoth_Rac wrote: »

It is not clear to me how this affects in-game page drops from dungeon bosses. We can safely learn Fang Lair pages but not Scalecaller? Or is everything bugged and we should not learn any pages of Scalecaller or Fang Lair until after Monday's patch?

Sorry, yes. If you haven't learned Scalecaller yet, you can still learn Fang Lair successfully. Basically what we found is if you learn Scalecaller first, then Fang Lair, that was causing Fang Lair not to work properly.

Do you know whether you can safely learn Scalecaller after learning Fang Lair? And is the bug 1-to-1 (e.g. I learned Scalecaller swords so now I can’t learn Fang Lair swords until the patch) or 1-and-done (e.g. I learned Scalecaller swords so now I can’t learn any Fang Lair until the patch)?

testd4n1 wrote: »

A question that hasn't been brought up is whether or not learning the scalecaller motif with prevent you from learning any other motifs, similarly to how you can't learn the FN motif afterwards.

Aliyavana wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Update on the in-game Motif drops:

For now, hold off on learning the Scalecaller Motif or pages until the next incremental patch. For PC, this is scheduled for next Monday. For console, it'll be in about 3 weeks (we have some other fixes going into that patch). If you have a character that is currently unable to learn the Fang Lair Motif - which is tied to learning the Scalecaller Motif first - it should also be resolved in the next patch.

MLGProPlayer wrote: »

MajesticHaruki wrote: »

Fang Lair veteran dungeon, first boss keeps resetting. Can you move some devs from the crown store to the bugfixing department? Thank you...

You can't use pets in that dungeon. They reset all the bosses for some reason. So that means wardens can't complete this content. But it's okay, we're so bad almost no one wants us on their team anyway. Pet sorcs can just respec.

For what it's worth, we're currently working on a fix for this.

does that include the non crown store versions?

Is it possible to find on normal, or just vet?

ChrisToTheCanvas wrote: »

l... evidence by the plenty buyers brave enough to post in this thread

Why would posting in this thread require "bravery"?

Earlier you said top priority was fixing the game. Now, instead, it's releasing a broken motif. After two years, I've cancelled my plus account, cause I'm not feeling the love.

Scorpiodisc wrote: »

ChrisToTheCanvas wrote: »

l... evidence by the plenty buyers brave enough to post in this thread

Why would posting in this thread require "bravery"?

Because a lot of people are unhappy with ZOS and think nothing will change until we stop buying from them to hurt their wallet. It seems that's all they pay attention to and this thread is kind of leaning that way as well.

However it won't really work. Sales might drop a bit, but there are too many people who still purchase.

They need the money and deserve the money, I just wish they would stop blaming our internet.

testd4n1 wrote: »

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If you would familiarize yourself with the forum rules you would realize that bashing any ZOS employee is in violation of them and will result in actions being taken against your forum account.

So basically we cannot say they did a bad job?

That's fine.

I wont say it.

Their actions do speak for themselves.

I just don't see how something like this went live in the first place. Then to receive this kind of attention.....

RANKK7 wrote: »

testd4n1 wrote: »

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If you would familiarize yourself with the forum rules you would realize that bashing any ZOS employee is in violation of them and will result in actions being taken against your forum account.

If you would clarify where have you seen the "bashing", or you just felt to comment without even knowing what comments I'm talking about?

ZOS said they removed the "bashing" comments. So it would be impossible to "point them out"...amirite?

Scorpiodisc wrote: »

RANKK7 wrote: »

testd4n1 wrote: »

RANKK7 wrote: »

ZOS_JesC wrote: »

Greetings, we've removed a few more bashing comments. This is a reminder that bashing any ZOS employee is in violation of the forum rules and will result in actions being taken against your forum account. Thank you for your understanding.

Actually I would like to understand how it's a "bashing" comment the opinion of a customer saying this studio seems to lack QA (in these simple words), it's merely a feedback and it's a fact there is a problem with these motives Quality Assurance should have identified before going live.

And what about it's weeks we got Master Writs requiring motives non existent in game? Isn't that a very big oversight too?

This isn't about "bashing" ZOS employee and no harsh words were used whatsoever, I'm seriously appalled.

If you would familiarize yourself with the forum rules you would realize that bashing any ZOS employee is in violation of them and will result in actions being taken against your forum account.

If you would clarify where have you seen the "bashing", or you just felt to comment without even knowing what comments I'm talking about?

ZOS said they removed the "bashing" comments. So it would be impossible to "point them out"...amirite?

Cached versions exist if you visited and nothing on the net gets really lost, the point though is to not confuse "bashing" with feedback supported by facts, it's not like I made up I had master writs sitting in my inventory of non-existing motives, it's fact, and now there is an issue quality assurance could have identified.

Another example of really bad quality controls in place before pushing out content to live servers. ZOS needs to hire more testers. Buggy content really hurts and enrages the player base.

I love this game but these bugs and unplayable parts of the game and for some platforms unplayable entire game is really hurting the game's ability to retain and attract players.

I'm sure ESO brings in a lot of profits but honestly it should be more. The player base should be bigger. Active players in all game modes should be larger. ZOS should be making way more money, if only for the buggy and and laggy coding that keeps the game down.

I was going to drop $$ on buying more crowns to get the motifs tonight but now I have to wait until the issue is resolved. I was going to drop $100 on three motifs but now that revenue generation is going to be delayed by at least a week. Multiply that by the thousands of players who wanted to spend $$ and that's a lot of lost revenue.