Llaren_Uvayn wrote: »

Is it heresy to run Valkyn Skoria on a healer? I mean, throwing shards and laying down blockades means it'll proc constantly.

It's not that it won't proc, but that the damage it does will probably less than the damage & survival increase you will add to the group by using other sets. But that depends on content. Generally when you're discussing healer builds is about veteran trials. Everything else you can heal in pretty much anything, or barely heal at all and still get it done.

Earthgore looks delicious.

Infernal Guardian, Maw of the Infernal and Sentinel of Rkugamz provide good utility for pve healers.

Most healers can handle casting HoTs and Burst heals on their own without a monster set to help. What they can do for dungeons/ non Hm trials is use Maw of the Infernal to do extra dps without having to deal with a difficult proc condition like most other monster sets. Most sets proc on damage over time, or direct damage etc. Maw procs off of light and heavy attacks which is perfect for a healer using a resto/lighting set up since each heavy attack will have 3/5 damage tics for those two staves. This makes Maw have a really high uptime.

In summerset dk healer will become very viable and with the spamming of Igneous shields for the Major Mending a healer will want, they can get some free Max Magicka and Fire damage by using Infernal Guardian. This fits very nicely with dk healers kit since they have passives that boost fire/burning damage done and will be casting their igneous shields frequently anyways.

Sentinel is very situational but in stack and burn situations like the vet craglorn trials when combined with the Masters Restoration staff, you can help your stam dps a lot by basically providing them an extra ~5k stam every 15 seconds. This can also greatly help the tank in vAA since you can cast healing springs with a Master Resto on the tank to feed him stam and that will proc Sentinel which will feed him 4k stam along with some extra hots. A tank will typically benefit most from the otherwise meager 4-5k stam every 15 seconds because they usually stack block cost reduction so that stam goes a long way for them.

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »

@Iron_Blurr you are aware that obsidian sheild and its morphs do not stack currently right? Now sure if zos will allow them to stack on the pts but as of right now, you, as a dragonknight healer will take the shield of the dragonknight tank you are most likely running with. That is no good. Meaning that you can't really run obsidian sheild on a healer.

In summerset patch dk tanks and healers will not be using the same shield morph. Even if it doesnt stack who cares? Major mending is far more valuable than a tiny shield a dk tank can cast on the party because dk tanks dont stack into bastion like a healer will. Either way having 2 people running shields for your party is still better than 1.

Peekachu99 wrote: »

Earthgore remains BIS for a lot of stuff, PVP included.

Even with the Nerf?

Infernal guardian is a fun set, not too strong though. Not exactly a healing set. Very much not a good set to use in all dungeons either.

Chokethorn might be cool but its random and single target. Because of how strong it is it gives me a small amount of relief for the target its healing.

Earthgore despite its delay would practically be a free ultimate. When its cast I can have some sustain recovery time.

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Oh no I was agreeing with you. If a tank has one skill that doesn't really work with what I have slotted, I'll instead use an alternative that works with it.

When a healer is removing a tanks ward for mending they're basically crippling their tanks build for no reason. Tank now can't do their job as well, which means healer indirectly now can't heal as effectively, it makes it effectively pointless.

None. I will probably still stick to my Arena staves (Asylum/Master/Maelstrom Resto and Maelstrom Destro).

Everyone is saying that Chokethorn heal is random target... i always tought it was smart heal. Anyone has a proof of anything?

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TROLL KING.


Seriously, the set it really good; Earthgore is more bursty but this is a great guaranteed HoT

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But you get major mending from resto heavy attacks, which should pretty much be main barred no matter what. Healers should also constantly be heavy attacking to keep their bar up. In between attacks they should keep a preventative shield, AoE/HoT, SPC/BP, drain, or whatever else they have to do up.



Three seconds is more than enough. Without major mending or buffs my warden can easily HPS through most damage except damage that goes through their entire healthbar. When the tanks ward/shield/whatever is lowered they just straight up take a bigger hit to the health, leading to you having to heal them for more

Major mending over a tanks ward is useless because massive burst HPS isn't nearly as important as you think it is, outside of moments where you get a heal check, in which case you're better off with sustain gear and SPC, as well as potions that give major prophecy and/or major sorcery for those burst moments, ultimates as well.

I can pull 20k HPS in a 4 man group and sustain it at around 15k with buffs. If it was 10k I'd probably be fine to be honest, and a lot of the time I find myself around that number. This is with 2190 spell damage and 41% spell crit, with 37k magicka. Trust me, HPS is a fruitless thing, keeping your team alive is, and your tanks job is to take the damage for them. I could have 600k HPS and I'm still *** if my tank can't do his job.

DanteMR1995 wrote: »

Peekachu99 wrote: »

Earthgore remains BIS for a lot of stuff, PVP included.

Maybe in PvP, but in PvE, stacking heals over time is what i prefer on my DK healer, especially now that they've made ash cloud useful.

Especially with the new healer set Ash Cloud seems to be a quite strong AoE ground heal.

Griffe wrote: »

Aurielle wrote: »

EDIT: Also, NO ONE in my guilds runs DSA, so I haven't been able to get a Master resto staff and doubt I ever will. If Sentinel procs reliably, then it's a decent alternative to not having access to Master resto.

I PUGed vDSA for the Master. It's totally doable with unknown people. Just ask for those who already ran it. If it's your first time in vDSA, maybe I can help (but as I only play healers, I will be the healer.) Just PM me, if you play on PC-EU.

I’m on PS4, alas. Thanks, though. I might try pugging it if I don’t like Sentinel. I’ve gotten by fine with SPC/Worm (or Sanctuary, depending on group composition) with 1pc Earthgore, but I always do feel bad for my stam folks. Shrooms and orbs help a bit, but I’d still rather give them more options for stam sustain.

Warden stam healer: Chokethorn
Dk healer: Infernal Guardian
Sorc healer: Maw of the Infernal
NB healer: Earthgore