Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »OneKhajiitCrimeWave wrote: »Bigevilpeter wrote: »Peekachu99 wrote: »Earthgore remains BIS for a lot of stuff, PVP included.
In PvE is a massive single heal every 35 sec really useful??
I can tell you that it can be very useful in PvE. The proc conditions shouldn't be met more than once every 35 seconds in most content. In DLC dungeons it works out as once per trash pull and is a real safety net in many fights where certain bosses can produce large amounts of sustained damage to an entire group. For our no death runs at the moment our healer runs it with IA and SPC with staves of each to have both 5 pieces as needed.
I plan to run it on my healers for PvE and PvP.
IA is not really good for healers, much better to just use a lightning staff and blockade, infused with a shock enchant, pretty good concuss uptime, and provide off-balance, which your stam players will appreciate.
If you run with a magsorc, it's straight up wasted, because it doesn't stack with concussed.
That way you free up a set, and can use Jorvuld (or whatever strikes your fancy, Mending, Sanctuary, etc).
IA is only really useful on a very limited number of fights, like the storm atro in AA, since you can't concuss it.
If I were you I'd advise (and help) your healer to farm a new secondary set to pair with SPC.
As for PvP, Earthgore is only really BiS for ballgroups or zerg-surfing.
For small scale there are much better alternatives.
Infused..you mean charged triat. O.o
Infused is more dps with around the same chance for procing concussion from the enchant.
40% chance every 2 seconds vs 84% every 4 seconds.
Dapper Dinosaur wrote: »As you guys know 2 handed staves will count as 2 set pieces, leaving healers to finally be able to use monster sets.
I am confused by this statement. I've skinned every dungeon including scalecaller on my healer using chokethorn, 5 piece twilight, and the rest julianos.
Dapper Dinosaur wrote: »Bigevilpeter wrote: »Dapper Dinosaur wrote: »As you guys know 2 handed staves will count as 2 set pieces, leaving healers to finally be able to use monster sets.
I am confused by this statement. I've skinned every dungeon including scalecaller on my healer using chokethorn, 5 piece twilight, and the rest julianos.
Well you can do thek almost naked if you want with just a resto staff, but the most efficient way to do them is with 2 5 piece sets SPC is a must other is optional and a single monster helm or a Master/Malestrom Resto
That's simply incorrect, both about two 5-piece being essential and SPC being essential. Everyone I know that runs with my healer always asks me to run stuff and tells me I'm one of the best (if not the best) healer they know. They wouldn't be saying that if my build was as far wrong as you say it is.
but the most efficient way to do them is with 2 5 piece sets SPC is a must other is optional and a single monster helm or a Master/Malestrom Resto
Dapper Dinosaur wrote: »Did you even read what he said?but the most efficient way to do them is with 2 5 piece sets SPC is a must other is optional and a single monster helm or a Master/Malestrom Resto
@Tasear I believe it's mostly random, but it seems to prioritize the most injured target or the target with the least current health. Very often I'll see someone get badly hurt and if my chokethorn pops up before I heal them, it will pretty much always pick that target and handle it for me. It's saved many people from dying.
Dapper Dinosaur wrote: »Did you even read what he said?but the most efficient way to do them is with 2 5 piece sets SPC is a must other is optional and a single monster helm or a Master/Malestrom Resto
@Tasear I believe it's mostly random, but it seems to prioritize the most injured target or the target with the least current health. Very often I'll see someone get badly hurt and if my chokethorn pops up before I heal them, it will pretty much always pick that target and handle it for me. It's saved many people from dying.
Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »Dapper Dinosaur wrote: »Did you even read what he said?but the most efficient way to do them is with 2 5 piece sets SPC is a must other is optional and a single monster helm or a Master/Malestrom Resto
@Tasear I believe it's mostly random, but it seems to prioritize the most injured target or the target with the least current health. Very often I'll see someone get badly hurt and if my chokethorn pops up before I heal them, it will pretty much always pick that target and handle it for me. It's saved many people from dying.
"Most efficient" does not mean "incorrect" doesn't mean unable to be "skinned"(what a laughable thing to brag about) He is absolutely correct that if you don't have spc and another five and such, you and your team are less efficient then if you do.
Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »Dapper Dinosaur wrote: »Did you even read what he said?but the most efficient way to do them is with 2 5 piece sets SPC is a must other is optional and a single monster helm or a Master/Malestrom Resto
@Tasear I believe it's mostly random, but it seems to prioritize the most injured target or the target with the least current health. Very often I'll see someone get badly hurt and if my chokethorn pops up before I heal them, it will pretty much always pick that target and handle it for me. It's saved many people from dying.
"Most efficient" does not mean "incorrect" doesn't mean unable to be "skinned"(what a laughable thing to brag about) He is absolutely correct that if you don't have spc and another five and such, you and your team are less efficient then if you do.
Seems I got quoted somehow here. Though my thoughts are master resto is outclassed but sentiental in most cases. You have to spam springs 16 times between procs .
I suppose they will have to watch the issue , but outside of a trial. It's not a good idea to have master resto.
Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »Dapper Dinosaur wrote: »Did you even read what he said?but the most efficient way to do them is with 2 5 piece sets SPC is a must other is optional and a single monster helm or a Master/Malestrom Resto
@Tasear I believe it's mostly random, but it seems to prioritize the most injured target or the target with the least current health. Very often I'll see someone get badly hurt and if my chokethorn pops up before I heal them, it will pretty much always pick that target and handle it for me. It's saved many people from dying.
"Most efficient" does not mean "incorrect" doesn't mean unable to be "skinned"(what a laughable thing to brag about) He is absolutely correct that if you don't have spc and another five and such, you and your team are less efficient then if you do.
Seems I got quoted somehow here. Though my thoughts are master resto is outclassed but sentiental in most cases. You have to spam springs 16 times between procs .
I suppose they will have to watch the issue , but outside of a trial. It's not a good idea to have master resto.
The guy I was responding to explained that chokethorn is most likely a smart heal on proc, meaning it will target the lowest person at the time of the proc and get them. For around 4-5k ticks of healing. Which is not a lot, Bogdan does that in 5k+ ticks of healing for six seconds, in an aoe, meaning it can hit 6 people.
On sentinel of rkugamz, I agree. My warden healer has had it on with spc front bar and lich back bar. Now that I can just use five armor for spc and the rest for another set, I am at a loss for what I want to use, I have mending, worm cult and your favorite, twilight remedy. Not sure what I will be replacing lich with.
Dapper Dinosaur wrote: »Did you even read what he said?but the most efficient way to do them is with 2 5 piece sets SPC is a must other is optional and a single monster helm or a Master/Malestrom Resto
@Tasear I believe it's mostly random, but it seems to prioritize the most injured target or the target with the least current health. Very often I'll see someone get badly hurt and if my chokethorn pops up before I heal them, it will pretty much always pick that target and handle it for me. It's saved many people from dying.
Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »Dapper Dinosaur wrote: »Did you even read what he said?but the most efficient way to do them is with 2 5 piece sets SPC is a must other is optional and a single monster helm or a Master/Malestrom Resto
@Tasear I believe it's mostly random, but it seems to prioritize the most injured target or the target with the least current health. Very often I'll see someone get badly hurt and if my chokethorn pops up before I heal them, it will pretty much always pick that target and handle it for me. It's saved many people from dying.
"Most efficient" does not mean "incorrect" doesn't mean unable to be "skinned"(what a laughable thing to brag about) He is absolutely correct that if you don't have spc and another five and such, you and your team are less efficient then if you do.
Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »Dapper Dinosaur wrote: »Did you even read what he said?but the most efficient way to do them is with 2 5 piece sets SPC is a must other is optional and a single monster helm or a Master/Malestrom Resto
@Tasear I believe it's mostly random, but it seems to prioritize the most injured target or the target with the least current health. Very often I'll see someone get badly hurt and if my chokethorn pops up before I heal them, it will pretty much always pick that target and handle it for me. It's saved many people from dying.
"Most efficient" does not mean "incorrect" doesn't mean unable to be "skinned"(what a laughable thing to brag about) He is absolutely correct that if you don't have spc and another five and such, you and your team are less efficient then if you do.
Seems I got quoted somehow here. Though my thoughts are master resto is outclassed but sentiental in most cases. You have to spam springs 16 times between procs .
I suppose they will have to watch the issue , but outside of a trial. It's not a good idea to have master resto.
Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »Dapper Dinosaur wrote: »Did you even read what he said?but the most efficient way to do them is with 2 5 piece sets SPC is a must other is optional and a single monster helm or a Master/Malestrom Resto
@Tasear I believe it's mostly random, but it seems to prioritize the most injured target or the target with the least current health. Very often I'll see someone get badly hurt and if my chokethorn pops up before I heal them, it will pretty much always pick that target and handle it for me. It's saved many people from dying.
"Most efficient" does not mean "incorrect" doesn't mean unable to be "skinned"(what a laughable thing to brag about) He is absolutely correct that if you don't have spc and another five and such, you and your team are less efficient then if you do.
Seems I got quoted somehow here. Though my thoughts are master resto is outclassed but sentiental in most cases. You have to spam springs 16 times between procs .
I suppose they will have to watch the issue , but outside of a trial. It's not a good idea to have master resto.
you keep using this word "sentiental"
what does that word mean? google doesn't even know it; it keeps pointing back to you. you're most of the search results, and nothing autocorrects to sentiental.
Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »Dapper Dinosaur wrote: »Did you even read what he said?but the most efficient way to do them is with 2 5 piece sets SPC is a must other is optional and a single monster helm or a Master/Malestrom Resto
Tasear I believe it's mostly random, but it seems to prioritize the most injured target or the target with the least current health. Very often I'll see someone get badly hurt and if my chokethorn pops up before I heal them, it will pretty much always pick that target and handle it for me. It's saved many people from dying.
"Most efficient" does not mean "incorrect" doesn't mean unable to be "skinned"(what a laughable thing to brag about) He is absolutely correct that if you don't have spc and another five and such, you and your team are less efficient then if you do.
Seems I got quoted somehow here. Though my thoughts are master resto is outclassed but sentiental in most cases. You have to spam springs 16 times between procs .
I suppose they will have to watch the issue , but outside of a trial. It's not a good idea to have master resto.
you keep using this word "sentiental"
what does that word mean? google doesn't even know it; it keeps pointing back to you. you're most of the search results, and nothing autocorrects to sentiental.
Dapper Dinosaur wrote: »Did you even read what he said?
Maura_Neysa wrote: »Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »Dapper Dinosaur wrote: »Did you even read what he said?but the most efficient way to do them is with 2 5 piece sets SPC is a must other is optional and a single monster helm or a Master/Malestrom Resto
Tasear I believe it's mostly random, but it seems to prioritize the most injured target or the target with the least current health. Very often I'll see someone get badly hurt and if my chokethorn pops up before I heal them, it will pretty much always pick that target and handle it for me. It's saved many people from dying.
"Most efficient" does not mean "incorrect" doesn't mean unable to be "skinned"(what a laughable thing to brag about) He is absolutely correct that if you don't have spc and another five and such, you and your team are less efficient then if you do.
Seems I got quoted somehow here. Though my thoughts are master resto is outclassed but sentiental in most cases. You have to spam springs 16 times between procs .
I suppose they will have to watch the issue , but outside of a trial. It's not a good idea to have master resto.
you keep using this word "sentiental"
what does that word mean? google doesn't even know it; it keeps pointing back to you. you're most of the search results, and nothing autocorrects to sentiental.
Sentinel of Rkugamz Set
LEVEL 50 CHAMPION 160
(1 items) Adds 2% Healing Done
(2 items) When you heal a friendly target, you have a 10% chance to summon a dwemer spider that heals for 1049 Health and restores 524 Stamina to you and your allies within 5 meters every 1 second for 8 seconds. This effect can occur once every 15 seconds.
524 Stmaina x 8 sec = 258 Stamina from 16 cast of Master Resto Healing Springs. Only Springs has a far larger radius than the Spider. That’s why most prefer it over that Monster helm. It’s why I will most likely continue to run the Master Resto.
Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »Dapper Dinosaur wrote: »Did you even read what he said?but the most efficient way to do them is with 2 5 piece sets SPC is a must other is optional and a single monster helm or a Master/Malestrom Resto
@Tasear I believe it's mostly random, but it seems to prioritize the most injured target or the target with the least current health. Very often I'll see someone get badly hurt and if my chokethorn pops up before I heal them, it will pretty much always pick that target and handle it for me. It's saved many people from dying.
"Most efficient" does not mean "incorrect" doesn't mean unable to be "skinned"(what a laughable thing to brag about) He is absolutely correct that if you don't have spc and another five and such, you and your team are less efficient then if you do.
Seems I got quoted somehow here. Though my thoughts are master resto is outclassed but sentiental in most cases. You have to spam springs 16 times between procs .
I suppose they will have to watch the issue , but outside of a trial. It's not a good idea to have master resto.
you keep using this word "sentiental"
what does that word mean? google doesn't even know it; it keeps pointing back to you. you're most of the search results, and nothing autocorrects to sentiental.
It's clearly a typo. We all know what I meant.
Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »Dapper Dinosaur wrote: »Did you even read what he said?but the most efficient way to do them is with 2 5 piece sets SPC is a must other is optional and a single monster helm or a Master/Malestrom Resto
@Tasear I believe it's mostly random, but it seems to prioritize the most injured target or the target with the least current health. Very often I'll see someone get badly hurt and if my chokethorn pops up before I heal them, it will pretty much always pick that target and handle it for me. It's saved many people from dying.
"Most efficient" does not mean "incorrect" doesn't mean unable to be "skinned"(what a laughable thing to brag about) He is absolutely correct that if you don't have spc and another five and such, you and your team are less efficient then if you do.
Seems I got quoted somehow here. Though my thoughts are master resto is outclassed but sentiental in most cases. You have to spam springs 16 times between procs .
I suppose they will have to watch the issue , but outside of a trial. It's not a good idea to have master resto.
you keep using this word "sentiental"
what does that word mean? google doesn't even know it; it keeps pointing back to you. you're most of the search results, and nothing autocorrects to sentiental.
It's clearly a typo. We all know what I meant.Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »Dapper Dinosaur wrote: »Did you even read what he said?but the most efficient way to do them is with 2 5 piece sets SPC is a must other is optional and a single monster helm or a Master/Malestrom Resto
@Tasear I believe it's mostly random, but it seems to prioritize the most injured target or the target with the least current health. Very often I'll see someone get badly hurt and if my chokethorn pops up before I heal them, it will pretty much always pick that target and handle it for me. It's saved many people from dying.
"Most efficient" does not mean "incorrect" doesn't mean unable to be "skinned"(what a laughable thing to brag about) He is absolutely correct that if you don't have spc and another five and such, you and your team are less efficient then if you do.
Seems I got quoted somehow here. Though my thoughts are master resto is outclassed but sentiental in most cases. You have to spam springs 16 times between procs .
I suppose they will have to watch the issue , but outside of a trial. It's not a good idea to have master resto.
you keep using this word "sentiental"
what does that word mean? google doesn't even know it; it keeps pointing back to you. you're most of the search results, and nothing autocorrects to sentiental.
It's clearly a typo. We all know what I meant.
i honestly didn't know what you meant. like i said, i both googled it and checked what could have autocorrected to it and got nowhere, even after asking you yourself. i thank Maura_Neysa for clearing it up
Maura_Neysa wrote: »Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »Dapper Dinosaur wrote: »Did you even read what he said?but the most efficient way to do them is with 2 5 piece sets SPC is a must other is optional and a single monster helm or a Master/Malestrom Resto
Tasear I believe it's mostly random, but it seems to prioritize the most injured target or the target with the least current health. Very often I'll see someone get badly hurt and if my chokethorn pops up before I heal them, it will pretty much always pick that target and handle it for me. It's saved many people from dying.
"Most efficient" does not mean "incorrect" doesn't mean unable to be "skinned"(what a laughable thing to brag about) He is absolutely correct that if you don't have spc and another five and such, you and your team are less efficient then if you do.
Seems I got quoted somehow here. Though my thoughts are master resto is outclassed but sentiental in most cases. You have to spam springs 16 times between procs .
I suppose they will have to watch the issue , but outside of a trial. It's not a good idea to have master resto.
you keep using this word "sentiental"
what does that word mean? google doesn't even know it; it keeps pointing back to you. you're most of the search results, and nothing autocorrects to sentiental.
Sentinel of Rkugamz Set
LEVEL 50 CHAMPION 160
(1 items) Adds 2% Healing Done
(2 items) When you heal a friendly target, you have a 10% chance to summon a dwemer spider that heals for 1049 Health and restores 524 Stamina to you and your allies within 5 meters every 1 second for 8 seconds. This effect can occur once every 15 seconds.
524 Stmaina x 8 sec = 258 Stamina from 16 cast of Master Resto Healing Springs. Only Springs has a far larger radius than the Spider. That’s why most prefer it over that Monster helm. It’s why I will most likely continue to run the Master Resto.
It's 8 meters and looks bigger then that. Definitely can cover all melee dps.
Maura_Neysa wrote: »Maura_Neysa wrote: »Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »Dapper Dinosaur wrote: »Did you even read what he said?but the most efficient way to do them is with 2 5 piece sets SPC is a must other is optional and a single monster helm or a Master/Malestrom Resto
Tasear I believe it's mostly random, but it seems to prioritize the most injured target or the target with the least current health. Very often I'll see someone get badly hurt and if my chokethorn pops up before I heal them, it will pretty much always pick that target and handle it for me. It's saved many people from dying.
"Most efficient" does not mean "incorrect" doesn't mean unable to be "skinned"(what a laughable thing to brag about) He is absolutely correct that if you don't have spc and another five and such, you and your team are less efficient then if you do.
Seems I got quoted somehow here. Though my thoughts are master resto is outclassed but sentiental in most cases. You have to spam springs 16 times between procs .
I suppose they will have to watch the issue , but outside of a trial. It's not a good idea to have master resto.
you keep using this word "sentiental"
what does that word mean? google doesn't even know it; it keeps pointing back to you. you're most of the search results, and nothing autocorrects to sentiental.
Sentinel of Rkugamz Set
LEVEL 50 CHAMPION 160
(1 items) Adds 2% Healing Done
(2 items) When you heal a friendly target, you have a 10% chance to summon a dwemer spider that heals for 1049 Health and restores 524 Stamina to you and your allies within 5 meters every 1 second for 8 seconds. This effect can occur once every 15 seconds.
524 Stmaina x 8 sec = 258 Stamina from 16 cast of Master Resto Healing Springs. Only Springs has a far larger radius than the Spider. That’s why most prefer it over that Monster helm. It’s why I will most likely continue to run the Master Resto.
It's 8 meters and looks bigger then that. Definitely can cover all melee dps.
Spring is 8 meters , Sentinel is only 5 meters and only useful if it procs on a Stam DPS/ Tank. I'd rather have 8 meters and cover the mag DPS who are for more likely to be the ones who actually run out of stamina.
Either way I wasn't trying to debate sets, just answering the question of "what is Sentinel?"
Dapper Dinosaur wrote: »Bigevilpeter wrote: »Dapper Dinosaur wrote: »As you guys know 2 handed staves will count as 2 set pieces, leaving healers to finally be able to use monster sets.
I am confused by this statement. I've skinned every dungeon including scalecaller on my healer using chokethorn, 5 piece twilight, and the rest julianos.
Well you can do thek almost naked if you want with just a resto staff, but the most efficient way to do them is with 2 5 piece sets SPC is a must other is optional and a single monster helm or a Master/Malestrom Resto
That's simply incorrect, both about two 5-piece being essential and SPC being essential. Everyone I know that runs with my healer always asks me to run stuff and tells me I'm one of the best (if not the best) healer they know. They wouldn't be saying that if my build was as far wrong as you say it is.