Calling all healers, which Monster set will you be using after Summerset?

Bigevilpeter

As you guys know 2 handed staves will count as 2 set pieces, leaving healers to finally be able to use monster sets. So I want to get an idea of which sets you will use or think will be most popular with Summerset. Personally I think using a one piece that gives max magika and one that gives magika regen because I think the set effects are underwhelming, but I could be mistaken.

Peekachu99

Earthgore

Earthgore remains BIS for a lot of stuff, PVP included.

Numerikuu

Other

Either Blood Spawn or Mighty Chudan, or maybe a mix.

Bigevilpeter

Mix of two

Peekachu99 wrote: »

Earthgore remains BIS for a lot of stuff, PVP included.

In PvE is a massive single heal every 35 sec really useful??

Mureel

I'm still undecided...

Bigevilpeter

Mix of two

Numerikuu wrote: »

Either Blood Spawn or Mighty Chudan, or maybe a mix.

Ohh i really dig the Chudan set, would make the healer very tanky and templars don't have to use channeled focus, I think this is my new favorite option but bloodspawn?? how often can you take hits for 6% to be effective?

Numerikuu

Other

Bigevilpeter wrote: »

Numerikuu wrote: »

Either Blood Spawn or Mighty Chudan, or maybe a mix.

Ohh i really dig the Chudan set, would make the healer very tanky, but bloodspawn?? how often can you take hits for 6% to be effective?

Depends on the healer I'm playing tbh. On a templar healer I tend to be the one that ends up face tanking trash mobs or mobs a boss spawns, so the additional defense/ultimate from Blood Spawn would be nice for throwing out either War Horn or Light's Champion ultis.

Other than that, it'll mostly be Chudan or a mix. Depends on the team really. If it's a bunch of melee dps then maybe Sentinel, but I don't like the small range on it tbh.

Maura_Neysa

Other

5/5/1/1. I'll still run Master Resto/Maelstrom Destro. Maybe drop the Maelstrom Destro, but I have a hard time believing any 5 piece set will have enough up time by being only on the back bar.

Bigevilpeter

Mix of two

Maura_Neysa wrote: »

5/5/1/1. I'll still run Master Resto/Maelstrom Destro. Maybe drop the Maelstrom Destro, but I have a hard time believing any 5 piece set will have enough up time by being only on the back bar.

Personally I will use IA front bar and Malestrom resto backbar, that way I can get both effects and still have 2 moster set slots. I was going for Nightflame head and chokethorn shoulder but the guy with the Chudan Idea probably changed my mind

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO

Nightflame

same as i do now, bogdan on my Templar and sentinel on my warden.

edwiges

Other

In my Templar I'm thinking about Thurvokun because I can be supportive applying the Minor Maim and Minor Defile debuffing the enemies or Lord Warden in close fights for groups that need more defenses.
For my healers from other classes I'm thinking about Earthgore.

Tasear

Other

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »

same as i do now, bogdan on my Templar and sentinel on my warden.

Is night flame useful? It looks bad on paper.

Mureel

Mureel wrote: »

I'm still undecided...

Well also: what my raid lead tells me to, has some part in it ;-)

Bigevilpeter

Mix of two

Tasear wrote: »

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »

same as i do now, bogdan on my Templar and sentinel on my warden.

Is night flame useful? It looks bad on paper.

Its only problem is its area of effect is too small, Its heal over time is really good and in trials it can be amazing and its the only moster set that can have 100% uptime.

Tasear

Other

It will probably depend on the situation.

Earthgore is nice to out heals mechanics or forgive stupid mistakes of allies. It's also good during burn phases in trials. There's pvp too.

Troll king I see this during larger arenas like the dragon in coa2 or ayslum. There's pvp too.

Chokethorn might be good if they fixed the targeting. It seemed so random. Might be good for reinforcing a squishy member.

Sentiental seems like the wises choice with heals and stamina support. It will work exceptionally well with melee dps, but not as well with range dps or Magicka dps. This might be fun set vAA to help tank.

I don't understand night flame.

Armatesz

Currently use 5 piece seducer for armor pieces and troll king for head and shoulder and rest way of martial knowledge. Likely when new chapter comes out I will likely switch martial knowledge for another set. Not sure which I will pick yet.

Tasear

Other

There's some other nice sets besides heals ones.

Chudan can help death prone healers. There's also Lord warden Which is similar but supportive.

Thurvokun might be interesting on mage fight in vAA or pvp.

Bloodspawn sounds nice but that small proc ensures it's a tank set.

Maura_Neysa

Other

Bigevilpeter wrote: »

Maura_Neysa wrote: »

5/5/1/1. I'll still run Master Resto/Maelstrom Destro. Maybe drop the Maelstrom Destro, but I have a hard time believing any 5 piece set will have enough up time by being only on the back bar.

Personally I will use IA front bar and Malestrom resto backbar, that way I can get both effects and still have 2 moster set slots. I was going for Nightflame head and chokethorn shoulder but the guy with the Chudan Idea probably changed my mind

Maelstrom Resto is a pale substitute for Master Resto and I'll not count on the procs of my off bar. Though it sounds like you Resto/Resto rather than Resto/Destro

Bigevilpeter wrote: »

Tasear wrote: »

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »

same as i do now, bogdan on my Templar and sentinel on my warden.

Is night flame useful? It looks bad on paper.

Its only problem is its area of effect is too small, Its heal over time is really good and in trials it can be amazing and its the only monster set that can have 100% uptime.

I find the area to be too small as well. Troll King can also have 100% up time. Though things arent going well if it does. Unless you're in a burn phase. Sentinel too is too small, but the Stamina return makes it a little more worth while. Though I have run neither set in nearly a year.

Bigevilpeter

Mix of two

Maura_Neysa wrote: »

Bigevilpeter wrote: »

Maura_Neysa wrote: »

5/5/1/1. I'll still run Master Resto/Maelstrom Destro. Maybe drop the Maelstrom Destro, but I have a hard time believing any 5 piece set will have enough up time by being only on the back bar.

Personally I will use IA front bar and Malestrom resto backbar, that way I can get both effects and still have 2 moster set slots. I was going for Nightflame head and chokethorn shoulder but the guy with the Chudan Idea probably changed my mind

Maelstrom Resto is a pale substitute for Master Resto and I'll not count on the procs of my off bar. Though it sounds like you Resto/Resto rather than Resto/Destro

Bigevilpeter wrote: »

Tasear wrote: »

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »

same as i do now, bogdan on my Templar and sentinel on my warden.

Is night flame useful? It looks bad on paper.

Its only problem is its area of effect is too small, Its heal over time is really good and in trials it can be amazing and its the only monster set that can have 100% uptime.

I find the area to be too small as well. Troll King can also have 100% up time. Though things arent going well if it does. Unless you're in a burn phase. Sentinel too is too small, but the Stamina return makes it a little more worth while. Though I have run neither set in nearly a year.

Yes I use resto/resto since I can apply Aoe magika steal with radiant aura and tank applies major breech, don't need and destro skills.

Also master resto really doesn't give that much stamina unless you spam healing springs, malestrom resto help me sustain better

In general now its not very wise to use monster sets as a healer beacuse their bonuses are not worth losing a 5 set effect, but after summerset there will be no reason not to use it

Velvelya

I've been using a monster set for like the last 2 years. Illambris or skoria... Offhand has cleanse and wall of elements to help clean up trash mobs.

Ladislao

Bigevilpeter wrote: »

Maura_Neysa wrote: »

Bigevilpeter wrote: »

Maura_Neysa wrote: »

5/5/1/1. I'll still run Master Resto/Maelstrom Destro. Maybe drop the Maelstrom Destro, but I have a hard time believing any 5 piece set will have enough up time by being only on the back bar.

Personally I will use IA front bar and Malestrom resto backbar, that way I can get both effects and still have 2 moster set slots. I was going for Nightflame head and chokethorn shoulder but the guy with the Chudan Idea probably changed my mind

Maelstrom Resto is a pale substitute for Master Resto and I'll not count on the procs of my off bar. Though it sounds like you Resto/Resto rather than Resto/Destro

Bigevilpeter wrote: »

Tasear wrote: »

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »

same as i do now, bogdan on my Templar and sentinel on my warden.

Is night flame useful? It looks bad on paper.

Its only problem is its area of effect is too small, Its heal over time is really good and in trials it can be amazing and its the only monster set that can have 100% uptime.

I find the area to be too small as well. Troll King can also have 100% up time. Though things arent going well if it does. Unless you're in a burn phase. Sentinel too is too small, but the Stamina return makes it a little more worth while. Though I have run neither set in nearly a year.

Yes I use resto/resto since I can apply Aoe magika steal with radiant aura and tank applies major breech, don't need and destro skills.

And what about off-balance from Wall of Elements? Or your raid has maximum uptime from another sources?

Maura_Neysa

Other

Bigevilpeter wrote: »

Maura_Neysa wrote: »

Bigevilpeter wrote: »

Maura_Neysa wrote: »

5/5/1/1. I'll still run Master Resto/Maelstrom Destro. Maybe drop the Maelstrom Destro, but I have a hard time believing any 5 piece set will have enough up time by being only on the back bar.

Personally I will use IA front bar and Malestrom resto backbar, that way I can get both effects and still have 2 moster set slots. I was going for Nightflame head and chokethorn shoulder but the guy with the Chudan Idea probably changed my mind

Maelstrom Resto is a pale substitute for Master Resto and I'll not count on the procs of my off bar. Though it sounds like you Resto/Resto rather than Resto/Destro

Bigevilpeter wrote: »

Tasear wrote: »

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »

same as i do now, bogdan on my Templar and sentinel on my warden.

Is night flame useful? It looks bad on paper.

Its only problem is its area of effect is too small, Its heal over time is really good and in trials it can be amazing and its the only monster set that can have 100% uptime.

I find the area to be too small as well. Troll King can also have 100% up time. Though things arent going well if it does. Unless you're in a burn phase. Sentinel too is too small, but the Stamina return makes it a little more worth while. Though I have run neither set in nearly a year.

Yes I use resto/resto since I can apply Aoe magika steal with radiant aura and tank applies major breech, don't need and destro skills.

Also master resto really doesn't give that much stamina unless you spam healing springs, malestrom resto help me sustain better

In general now its not very wise to use monster sets as a healer beacuse their bonuses are not worth losing a 5 set effect, but after summerset there will be no reason not to use it

There will only be no reason to if you run 5/5/2. If you still run a Master/Maelstrom/Asylum then you you'll have to trust to proc sets. Personally I run a DK and its only getting better, so I will keep my Destro. So the only reason to drop my Master Resto would be to run Sentinel. However I dont much like the idea of not being able to control where or when I give stamina.

Bigevilpeter

Mix of two

Maura_Neysa wrote: »

Bigevilpeter wrote: »

Maura_Neysa wrote: »

Bigevilpeter wrote: »

Maura_Neysa wrote: »

5/5/1/1. I'll still run Master Resto/Maelstrom Destro. Maybe drop the Maelstrom Destro, but I have a hard time believing any 5 piece set will have enough up time by being only on the back bar.

Personally I will use IA front bar and Malestrom resto backbar, that way I can get both effects and still have 2 moster set slots. I was going for Nightflame head and chokethorn shoulder but the guy with the Chudan Idea probably changed my mind

Maelstrom Resto is a pale substitute for Master Resto and I'll not count on the procs of my off bar. Though it sounds like you Resto/Resto rather than Resto/Destro

Bigevilpeter wrote: »

Tasear wrote: »

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »

same as i do now, bogdan on my Templar and sentinel on my warden.

Is night flame useful? It looks bad on paper.

Its only problem is its area of effect is too small, Its heal over time is really good and in trials it can be amazing and its the only monster set that can have 100% uptime.

I find the area to be too small as well. Troll King can also have 100% up time. Though things arent going well if it does. Unless you're in a burn phase. Sentinel too is too small, but the Stamina return makes it a little more worth while. Though I have run neither set in nearly a year.

Yes I use resto/resto since I can apply Aoe magika steal with radiant aura and tank applies major breech, don't need and destro skills.

Also master resto really doesn't give that much stamina unless you spam healing springs, malestrom resto help me sustain better

In general now its not very wise to use monster sets as a healer beacuse their bonuses are not worth losing a 5 set effect, but after summerset there will be no reason not to use it

There will only be no reason to if you run 5/5/2. If you still run a Master/Maelstrom/Asylum then you you'll have to trust to proc sets. Personally I run a DK and its only getting better, so I will keep my Destro. So the only reason to drop my Master Resto would be to run Sentinel. However I dont much like the idea of not being able to control where or when I give stamina.

True that's why I think Chudan or 1 and 1 are the best options based on the discussion here. Perhaps they can buff healing monster sets in the future

Tasear

Other

Ladislao wrote: »

Bigevilpeter wrote: »

Maura_Neysa wrote: »

Bigevilpeter wrote: »

Maura_Neysa wrote: »

5/5/1/1. I'll still run Master Resto/Maelstrom Destro. Maybe drop the Maelstrom Destro, but I have a hard time believing any 5 piece set will have enough up time by being only on the back bar.

Personally I will use IA front bar and Malestrom resto backbar, that way I can get both effects and still have 2 moster set slots. I was going for Nightflame head and chokethorn shoulder but the guy with the Chudan Idea probably changed my mind

Maelstrom Resto is a pale substitute for Master Resto and I'll not count on the procs of my off bar. Though it sounds like you Resto/Resto rather than Resto/Destro

Bigevilpeter wrote: »

Tasear wrote: »

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »

same as i do now, bogdan on my Templar and sentinel on my warden.

Is night flame useful? It looks bad on paper.

Its only problem is its area of effect is too small, Its heal over time is really good and in trials it can be amazing and its the only monster set that can have 100% uptime.

I find the area to be too small as well. Troll King can also have 100% up time. Though things arent going well if it does. Unless you're in a burn phase. Sentinel too is too small, but the Stamina return makes it a little more worth while. Though I have run neither set in nearly a year.

Yes I use resto/resto since I can apply Aoe magika steal with radiant aura and tank applies major breech, don't need and destro skills.

And what about off-balance from Wall of Elements? Or your raid has maximum uptime from another sources?

I mean technically it's only 15 secs on bosses now. Most of you don't use a charge staff anyways so it's wasted most the time. With enough sorcs it group then it should be fine. Still I am hypocrite because I use it.

Tyrobag

Other

Master's Resto.

Tasear

Other

Maura_Neysa wrote: »

Bigevilpeter wrote: »

Maura_Neysa wrote: »

Bigevilpeter wrote: »

Maura_Neysa wrote: »

5/5/1/1. I'll still run Master Resto/Maelstrom Destro. Maybe drop the Maelstrom Destro, but I have a hard time believing any 5 piece set will have enough up time by being only on the back bar.

Personally I will use IA front bar and Malestrom resto backbar, that way I can get both effects and still have 2 moster set slots. I was going for Nightflame head and chokethorn shoulder but the guy with the Chudan Idea probably changed my mind

Maelstrom Resto is a pale substitute for Master Resto and I'll not count on the procs of my off bar. Though it sounds like you Resto/Resto rather than Resto/Destro

Bigevilpeter wrote: »

Tasear wrote: »

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »

same as i do now, bogdan on my Templar and sentinel on my warden.

Is night flame useful? It looks bad on paper.

Its only problem is its area of effect is too small, Its heal over time is really good and in trials it can be amazing and its the only monster set that can have 100% uptime.

I find the area to be too small as well. Troll King can also have 100% up time. Though things arent going well if it does. Unless you're in a burn phase. Sentinel too is too small, but the Stamina return makes it a little more worth while. Though I have run neither set in nearly a year.

Yes I use resto/resto since I can apply Aoe magika steal with radiant aura and tank applies major breech, don't need and destro skills.

Also master resto really doesn't give that much stamina unless you spam healing springs, malestrom resto help me sustain better

In general now its not very wise to use monster sets as a healer beacuse their bonuses are not worth losing a 5 set effect, but after summerset there will be no reason not to use it

There will only be no reason to if you run 5/5/2. If you still run a Master/Maelstrom/Asylum then you you'll have to trust to proc sets. Personally I run a DK and its only getting better, so I will keep my Destro. So the only reason to drop my Master Resto would be to run Sentinel. However I dont much like the idea of not being able to control where or when I give stamina.

You can in a way. If you are focused on melee dps of on tank then you are good. It's not like we don't stack all the time. But might be an issue if procs on pet.

Silver_Strider

Sentinel for Craglorn Trials
Earthgore for MoL/HoF (An extra purge is an extra purge and those trials just hurt too much that the extra healing will most likely not go wasted either)
Troll King for everything else

Yinmaigao

Earthgore

Bigevilpeter wrote: »

Peekachu99 wrote: »

Earthgore remains BIS for a lot of stuff, PVP included.

In PvE is a massive single heal every 35 sec really useful??

Not just the heal... the free purge is great too. Better than an extra chunk of magicka/crit/spell dmg imo.

Aurielle

Sentinel

I'll be using Sentinel on my SPC/Sanctuary Argonian Warden. One major thing that Warden healers lack compared to Templar healers is an equivalent to shards. Sentinel won't be as reliable as shards, obviously, but I like the fact that it restores stamina to the ENTIRE group. When I'm grouped up with Templar healers on stam DPS characters, I never feel comfortable activating the synergy on shards, as it's an unwritten rule that that synergy belongs to the tank. Wardens excel with group-wide buffs, so Sentinel feels like the obvious choice here.

EDIT: Also, NO ONE in my guilds runs DSA, so I haven't been able to get a Master resto staff and doubt I ever will. If Sentinel procs reliably, then it's a decent alternative to not having access to Master resto.

Liofa

Here is my setup for next patch .

5 piece SPC on the body . Lord Warden , Blood Spawn or Earthgore . 3 Aether/Jorvulds jewelry + Lightning Staff on back bar . Asylum Resto on the front .

EvilCroc

The one that fits the color scheme of character.
My templar healer will use trollking
my nb healer will use earthgore
my sorc healer will use lord warden
my warden healer... will not use chokethorn because it is green, not teal!
really, i dunno what use on warden healer.