A Call to Haderus!

HeroOfNone · January 2015

That zerg running around... felt like I was a cheetah watching a gazelle herd, using snipe to pick off the slower and weaker ones that couldn't keep up with the herd...

Meanwhile still a bit confused with the way AD folks complain we don't communicate, we go to BRB with about 6-7 of us, we're constantly taking down groups of 8-10 EP as DC is distracting them the other side. Several times we called out where we were, the condition of the wall, the fact there is a scroll inside, etc. But we just don't have the numbers. Eventually head to drake when we get pushed out and see there was a group of 12+ AD taking it and are some of the same bitching we don't communicate. .. alright, I get it, you don't want a khajiit Emperor, but at least get a big enough force there to get the damn scroll =/.

*sigh for opportunities lost*

dylanjaygrobbelaarb16_ESO · January 2015

s7732425ub17_ESO wrote: »

I actually want ZOS to remove the 30 day campaigns completely and only have 14-days and 7 days. With a 30 day campaign, it's a 30 day exhausting grind to keep your faction on top. After 30 days are over, you have to start all over again. If you've been fighting hard for 30 days and end up in last, you lose the will to fight in another campaign.

With a shorter campaign, your pushes for the top become much more bearable. You can decide to rally your entire guild for an entire week, go for emp, and try to dominate. After that week when the campaign resets, everyone can get a deserved break. Also, don't expect the same faction to win week after week. You will have more pushes from all the factions, some guilds will be taking breaks, etc. It would be better than getting dominated for an entire month.

the thing is the option is there, people arnt choosing it.

WarrioroftheWind_ESO · January 2015

That felt kind of anticlimactic, despite the fact that EP won the campaign score-wise for the first time since launch. Here I assumed AD had been raking it in for months, and I see the gold reward is just slightly higher than what we get when we lose. Seems kind of dumb.

Regardless it was still a fun goal to have pursued. It took a monumental effort in coordination and commitment to hold enough keeps for that long. I'm not sure how the mechanics work on Thorn, but I've never seen EP or DC for that matter with either of the special 'bonuses' designed to 'give them a little boost' with their score. Honestly I think they should remove those bonuses altogether as they seem to reward the wrong people and punish those who actually play their hardest. Stop handing out the special gold stars to people to make 'everyone feel like a winner'. You win when you try your damn hardest and put in the time and effort. You lose when you came close but no cigar, or just didn't put in much time and effort. If you lose you lose. EP AND DC on Had have been dealing with that for months prior. AD shouldn't feel entitled.

I'd been out of the loop for a good while throughout the holiday blitz, but I think I'd read somewhere that Ithilwenn said Lacedion (how does he pronounce his name btw? Him and Vujk? is the J silent? is it "lace" like fabric or "lah-sid"?) Had been injured. I'm terribly sorry to hear that and I hope he makes a full recovery. All things aside, despite the amount of *** we gave him ribbing on him for his attitude regarding Had, he is crucial to the campaign. Him and many of the Had AD natives are our arch nemesis, same as AD loathe our own prominent players. Blessings and best wishes to you all.

I have noticed in the few days I've been playing is aside from the bare handful of natives sticking it out, without the main bulk of Lace's guild there, AD seems kind of.....stupid. Yesterday we must've snatched 4 keeps and 2 outposts from them while they were hell bent on Sej. I think the only defense we ran into was from natives who tried to defend the ring keeps. We very well might've taken the ring right from under them, but I guess at the last minute they abandoned Sej and hit Nikel to intercept us. I hope this doesn't mean that AD are giving up. Please continue to put up the fight. Alot of EP gave up and quit back in the day, but those of us who remained are stronger for having persisted.

I do plan on taking yet another break from pvp to try and mess with the PTS, but considering my DL speed goes as slow as molasses, and as of writing the PTS is still down at 11:30 central, I guess I can knock out a few points before work.

HeroOfNone · January 2015

WarrioroftheWind_ESO wrote: »

That felt kind of anticlimactic, despite the fact that EP won the campaign score-wise for the first time since launch. Here I assumed AD had been raking it in for months, and I see the gold reward is just slightly higher than what we get when we lose. Seems kind of dumb.

Regardless it was still a fun goal to have pursued. It took a monumental effort in coordination and commitment to hold enough keeps for that long. I'm not sure how the mechanics work on Thorn, but I've never seen EP or DC for that matter with either of the special 'bonuses' designed to 'give them a little boost' with their score. Honestly I think they should remove those bonuses altogether as they seem to reward the wrong people and punish those who actually play their hardest. Stop handing out the special gold stars to people to make 'everyone feel like a winner'. You win when you try your damn hardest and put in the time and effort. You lose when you came close but no cigar, or just didn't put in much time and effort. If you lose you lose. EP AND DC on Had have been dealing with that for months prior. AD shouldn't feel entitled.

I'd been out of the loop for a good while throughout the holiday blitz, but I think I'd read somewhere that Ithilwenn said Lacedion (how does he pronounce his name btw? Him and Vujk? is the J silent? is it "lace" like fabric or "lah-sid"?) Had been injured. I'm terribly sorry to hear that and I hope he makes a full recovery. All things aside, despite the amount of *** we gave him ribbing on him for his attitude regarding Had, he is crucial to the campaign. Him and many of the Had AD natives are our arch nemesis, same as AD loathe our own prominent players. Blessings and best wishes to you all.

I have noticed in the few days I've been playing is aside from the bare handful of natives sticking it out, without the main bulk of Lace's guild there, AD seems kind of.....stupid. Yesterday we must've snatched 4 keeps and 2 outposts from them while they were hell bent on Sej. I think the only defense we ran into was from natives who tried to defend the ring keeps. We very well might've taken the ring right from under them, but I guess at the last minute they abandoned Sej and hit Nikel to intercept us. I hope this doesn't mean that AD are giving up. Please continue to put up the fight. Alot of EP gave up and quit back in the day, but those of us who remained are stronger for having persisted.

I do plan on taking yet another break from pvp to try and mess with the PTS, but considering my DL speed goes as slow as molasses, and as of writing the PTS is still down at 11:30 central, I guess I can knock out a few points before work.

As I mentioned, 6 of us were pushing BRK with the scroll, and a group of 12+ AD were off at objectives like Drake when we were fighting even numbers. I can't imagine that was a tactical move nor was it something that would net a lot of AP. It's like we were still playing guerrilla tactics when the zerg left, expecting a zerg ball that never came. They did come around at one point, but went with a PVDoor tactic on a guarded keep, but that seemed like it was a quick wipe.

frozywozy · January 2015

s7732425ub17_ESO wrote: »

I actually want ZOS to remove the 30 day campaigns completely and only have 14-days and 7 days. With a 30 day campaign, it's a 30 day exhausting grind to keep your faction on top. After 30 days are over, you have to start all over again. If you've been fighting hard for 30 days and end up in last, you lose the will to fight in another campaign.

With a shorter campaign, your pushes for the top become much more bearable. You can decide to rally your entire guild for an entire week, go for emp, and try to dominate. After that week when the campaign resets, everyone can get a deserved break. Also, don't expect the same faction to win week after week. You will have more pushes from all the factions, some guilds will be taking breaks, etc. It would be better than getting dominated for an entire month.

I personally think that the 7days campaigns should not exist. It influences people to skip sleep, skip work and to be in total zombie mode for several days in hope to get emperor. I personally enjoy stability, perseverance and dedication and it is exactly what 30days campaigns are for.

Weberda · January 2015

frozywozy wrote: »

s7732425ub17_ESO wrote: »

I actually want ZOS to remove the 30 day campaigns completely and only have 14-days and 7 days. With a 30 day campaign, it's a 30 day exhausting grind to keep your faction on top. After 30 days are over, you have to start all over again. If you've been fighting hard for 30 days and end up in last, you lose the will to fight in another campaign.

With a shorter campaign, your pushes for the top become much more bearable. You can decide to rally your entire guild for an entire week, go for emp, and try to dominate. After that week when the campaign resets, everyone can get a deserved break. Also, don't expect the same faction to win week after week. You will have more pushes from all the factions, some guilds will be taking breaks, etc. It would be better than getting dominated for an entire month.

I personally think that the 7days campaigns should not exist. It influences people to skip sleep, skip work and to be in total zombie mode for several days in hope to get emperor. I personally enjoy stability, perseverance and dedication and it is exactly what 30days campaigns are for.

I think you may have an excellent point here even though I've homed on Haderus for months. We've flipped so many emps in the last 3 weeks that I can't even remember all the names (and I probably missed a few that happened late night-early morning).

HeroOfNone · January 2015

Hey! I still mad it into work =p. I actually think we should have 3, 5, or 10 day campaigns with 10-20 hour resets instead. Something with an off number so the reset day isn't the same every week. It would make interesting push nights if it fell on a Friday night or afternoon.

Admittedly when i saw myself top of the board that did encourage me to stick around till 50k, but at least I could do it trying to fight for meaningful objectives.

xylena · January 2015

frozywozy wrote: »

I personally think that the 7days campaigns should not exist. It influences people to skip sleep, skip work and to be in total zombie mode for several days in hope to get emperor. I personally enjoy stability, perseverance and dedication and it is exactly what 30days campaigns are for.

i was able to get emp on haderus playing the solo or small group styles i enjoy most... whereas in wabba/thorn even when i no-lifed it for a whole month, i could get into the top 10 but was always a few million behind the top emp competitors... the crazy flipping on haderus at least ensures theres action each week, whereas thorn has become a wasteland of red zergs the past two months

Wyndfoot · January 2015

Our beloved Haderus is gone, no longer is it 15-20 of us fighting 100-200 AD whenever a resource was taken. We worked hard and fought to hold what little ground we had. A red emperor on Haderus used to mean something, now I see several new ones a week, the luster is lacking what it used to mean.

badmojo0777b14_ESO · January 2015

s7732425ub17_ESO wrote: »

I actually want ZOS to remove the 30 day campaigns completely and only have 14-days and 7 days. With a 30 day campaign, it's a 30 day exhausting grind to keep your faction on top. After 30 days are over, you have to start all over again. If you've been fighting hard for 30 days and end up in last, you lose the will to fight in another campaign.

With a shorter campaign, your pushes for the top become much more bearable. You can decide to rally your entire guild for an entire week, go for emp, and try to dominate. After that week when the campaign resets, everyone can get a deserved break. Also, don't expect the same faction to win week after week. You will have more pushes from all the factions, some guilds will be taking breaks, etc. It would be better than getting dominated for an entire month.

quicker, faster, gimme now, instant gratification, nothing worth accomplishing should take more than a few days...got it

Observant · January 2015

frozywozy wrote: »

I personally think that the 7days campaigns should not exist. It influences people to skip sleep, skip work and to be in total zombie mode for several days in hope to get emperor. I personally enjoy stability, perseverance and dedication and it is exactly what 30days campaigns are for.

imo, It's actually the contrary.

The fact that I didn't have to try & catch up to a 6 million AP farm of healers and AOE junkies's was quite comforting, and actually, motivating. I was in Cyrodiil more this week in Haderus, than I've ever been in Thorn.

I work for approx. 10 hours a day, and I was able to get into the top 40's this week for Haderus. In TB, I can't get nearly as high up in the leaderboards. At least, not with my small guild and hate for the EP Egotistical buffoons.

Eglath · January 2015

The 7 day campaign is great for ppl who don't have much time to play, since you don't need to put a month of hard work to get anything. IMO 30 day campaigns should be removed completely and change to max 14 day.

frozywozy · January 2015

Observant wrote: »

frozywozy wrote: »

I personally think that the 7days campaigns should not exist. It influences people to skip sleep, skip work and to be in total zombie mode for several days in hope to get emperor. I personally enjoy stability, perseverance and dedication and it is exactly what 30days campaigns are for.

imo, It's actually the contrary.

The fact that I didn't have to try & catch up to a 6 million AP farm of healers and AOE junkies's was quite comforting, and actually, motivating. I was in Cyrodiil more this week in Haderus, than I've ever been in Thorn.

I work for approx. 10 hours a day, and I was able to get into the top 40's this week for Haderus. In TB, I can't get nearly as high up in the leaderboards. At least, not with my small guild and hate for the EP Egotistical buffoons.

If you play solo because of your hatred toward aoe junkies spam bat swarm impulse spam chim egotistical buffoons laggers face rolling keyboard bashing kind of people and you expect to get high on the leaderboard, maybe you should go back to mario bros.

Large scale pvp is for group play so if you wanna be competitive, join a group and get some organization, roles, rotations and abilities called using teamspeak.

This has nothing to do with the duration of the campaign. It is a personnal playstyle and mindset.

I work between 40 and 45 hours a week and I can easily get into the top30 of my faction everytime on Thornblade. If I would actually focus on defense ticks and tower farming and last hits like some people do, I could make it to top20 easily.

Once again, depends of what your focus is. I personally think that objectives > ap farm. Each his own.

Darklord_Tiberius · January 2015

frozywozy wrote: »

s7732425ub17_ESO wrote: »

I actually want ZOS to remove the 30 day campaigns completely and only have 14-days and 7 days. With a 30 day campaign, it's a 30 day exhausting grind to keep your faction on top. After 30 days are over, you have to start all over again. If you've been fighting hard for 30 days and end up in last, you lose the will to fight in another campaign.

With a shorter campaign, your pushes for the top become much more bearable. You can decide to rally your entire guild for an entire week, go for emp, and try to dominate. After that week when the campaign resets, everyone can get a deserved break. Also, don't expect the same faction to win week after week. You will have more pushes from all the factions, some guilds will be taking breaks, etc. It would be better than getting dominated for an entire month.

I personally think that the 7days campaigns should not exist. It influences people to skip sleep, skip work and to be in total zombie mode for several days in hope to get emperor. I personally enjoy stability, perseverance and dedication and it is exactly what 30days campaigns are for.

A 30 day campaign is only practical for those that can commit the time to stay on top, which takes a lot of time; I know from experience. Not everyone that PVPs can make such a commitment if they have a wife, 2-4 kids, a career, someone with a terminal disease to take care of and whatever other things life has to offer. ZOS clearly did make these campaigns with that in mind.

The only issue I really have are people that come over to the shorter campaigns just to get emperor and leave again. Until ZOS changes how setting a home/guest campaign work and/or add restrictions, that issue will always be in the game. At least they do have to work for it though, so it is not as bad as emperor farming was back with forward camps. However, it does create feelings of hate and mistrust because people ramrod over on a server they do not know and take from others that have done much more on that server than the "hoppers". This also affects the overall health of the PvP campaign because as we all saw last night, the population was completely skewed and competition was non-existent.

The only solution really until ZOS changes how this is done, is for us as players to work together and share. I know the term, sharing, is hard for some people to get, but respect goes a long way and will keep the overall Ebonheart Pact Alliance in a healthy state, rather than guilds hating on each other for being complete tools.

Just my opinions.

Panda244 · January 2015

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

They made Unstable Flame cost stamina, that's the only DK change that makes me pissed, also a recommendation to DKs, morph Standard of Might to Shifting Standard, Standard of might costs 250 now, and with the ult gen nerf it's gonna hurt bad, Shifting Standard still costs 200 and you can practically use it twice.

Cody · January 2015

Panda244 wrote: »

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

They made Unstable Flame cost stamina, that's the only DK change that makes me pissed -_-

hybrid/stamina build time!!:D no more tanking in all light armor!!!!

muhahahaha

Panda244 · January 2015

Cody wrote: »

Panda244 wrote: »

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

They made Unstable Flame cost stamina, that's the only DK change that makes me pissed -_-

hybrid/stamina build time!!:D no more tanking in all light armor!!!!

muhahahaha

Can still tank in light armor... All you need to do is pop an armor buff, as for Unstable Flame, swap it out for draw essence, since no more small scale pvp exists, Unstable Flame is kinda pointless...

NBs got some changes to but I'm to lazy to list any...

As for tanking in light armor, none of the passives in Sword/Board were changed so you still have block cost reduction and mitigation non-dependent on what armor you wear, if you use two piece undaunted and 5 light pieces, and lets say these two piece undaunted are medium or heavy, you'll be fine, if you're a DK in 7 light then just use razor armor or immovable on your offbar, and you'll be fine. I have room for Razor Armor on my offbar so my build won't change at all for 1vX. But I'll have to find something different to use for 1v1s, since Unstable Flame costs stamina and stam is to precious to waste on a DoT, tbh I might use Silver Leash, I know it's still a stam ability but it also one shots vampires. Either that or Molten Armanents, so I can execute peops.

frozywozy · January 2015

Panda244 wrote: »

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

They made Unstable Flame cost stamina, that's the only DK change that makes me pissed, also a recommendation to DKs, morph Standard of Might to Shifting Standard, Standard of might costs 250 now, and with the ult gen nerf it's gonna hurt bad, Shifting Standard still costs 200 and you can practically use it twice.

This thread is about Haderus, not the PTS 1.6 patch note, just sayin.

Panda244 · January 2015

frozywozy wrote: »

Panda244 wrote: »

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

They made Unstable Flame cost stamina, that's the only DK change that makes me pissed, also a recommendation to DKs, morph Standard of Might to Shifting Standard, Standard of might costs 250 now, and with the ult gen nerf it's gonna hurt bad, Shifting Standard still costs 200 and you can practically use it twice.

This thread is about Haderus, not the PTS 1.6 patch note, just sayin.

This thread is about whatever the hell people post in it. Just saying.

vortexman11 · January 2015

Panda244 wrote: »

frozywozy wrote: »

Panda244 wrote: »

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

They made Unstable Flame cost stamina, that's the only DK change that makes me pissed, also a recommendation to DKs, morph Standard of Might to Shifting Standard, Standard of might costs 250 now, and with the ult gen nerf it's gonna hurt bad, Shifting Standard still costs 200 and you can practically use it twice.

This thread is about Haderus, not the PTS 1.6 patch note, just sayin.

This thread is about whatever the hell people post in it. Just saying.

^

So what did you guys have for dinner last night? I had a bowl of pasta.

Mukuro · January 2015

I feasted on some EP AP at roe for awhile...
wasnt too bad...

Mukuro · January 2015

Also i have a hard time immersing in this game cause MY BOLT ESCAPE IS NERFED...

Cody · January 2015

frozywozy wrote: »

Panda244 wrote: »

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

They made Unstable Flame cost stamina, that's the only DK change that makes me pissed, also a recommendation to DKs, morph Standard of Might to Shifting Standard, Standard of might costs 250 now, and with the ult gen nerf it's gonna hurt bad, Shifting Standard still costs 200 and you can practically use it twice.

This thread is about Haderus, not the PTS 1.6 patch note, just sayin.

We will talk about what we want to talk about. deal with it. Just sayin:)

Panda244 · January 2015

vortexman11 wrote: »

Panda244 wrote: »

frozywozy wrote: »

Panda244 wrote: »

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

They made Unstable Flame cost stamina, that's the only DK change that makes me pissed, also a recommendation to DKs, morph Standard of Might to Shifting Standard, Standard of might costs 250 now, and with the ult gen nerf it's gonna hurt bad, Shifting Standard still costs 200 and you can practically use it twice.

This thread is about Haderus, not the PTS 1.6 patch note, just sayin.

This thread is about whatever the hell people post in it. Just saying.

^

So what did you guys have for dinner last night? I had a bowl of pasta.

I had some Cereal. Why? CAUSE I'M A GROWN ASS MAN THAT'S WHY!!!!!

ZOS_TristanK · January 2015

Bring it back around to discussing the campaign, folks. If you'd like to discuss something else ESO related, you're welcome to search for or create a new thread.

Mukuro · January 2015

So... apperently we aint allowed to talk a out what we want on here hahahhahahahaha

frozywozy · January 2015

Mukuro wrote: »

So... apperently we aint allowed to talk a out what we want on here hahahhahahahaha

Of course. I wasn't trying to create a new rule or to drag the conversation in the direction I feel to. I was just trying to help before a staff member intervene.

Maybe you should re-read the code of conduct.

Mukuro · January 2015

frozywozy wrote: »

Mukuro wrote: »

So... apperently we aint allowed to talk a out what we want on here hahahhahahahaha

Of course. I wasn't trying to create a new rule or to drag the conversation in the direction I feel to. I was just trying to help before a staff member intervene.

Maybe you should re-read the code of conduct.

I dont care what you were talking about...
i just forgot to quote the zos person...

Mukuro · January 2015

So how about that haderus?... ill be there soon... which ever side is taking a beating at the moment is the side ill join... its more fun that way...

Psilent · January 2015

Mukuro wrote: »

So how about that haderus?... ill be there soon... which ever side is taking a beating at the moment is the side ill join... its more fun that way...

Emperor Braidas