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Why are there no children NPCs in ESO?

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There are children in Skyrim, WoW, etc...
Can the lack of children in ESO be explained by lore?

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  • ers101284b14_ESO
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    Skyrim was the first ES game to have children. They probably didn't put children in because they serve no purpose. They can't fight, your not allowed to kill them, the just annoy you. Plus putting children into a war torn ravaged and bloody land would definately catch more negative attention from the media who thik games are going to make us mass murder people instead of playing the game and realizing it just makes us want more Cheetos and Mt Dew.
    Edited by ers101284b14_ESO on June 15, 2014 3:53AM
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  • Yam_of_the_Center
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    The Khajiit ate them.

    It's very sad.
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  • Silkesh
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    It is because they are either at school or in their room doing their homework, rather than wandering in the streets ;-). Good parenting is going on in Tamriel.
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  • Arsenic_Touch
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    The truth of the matter is its easier to code models that are the same size or close to the same size, than to make animations and designs for somethng much smaller so they took a shortcut and left them out.
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  • Jade_Knightblazerb14_ESO
    There is however 1 Child so far in ESO, so its not children-less...

    The AD has the quest White Phantom... Sure the kid is dead... but it is a child :P
  • Valn
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    ... Sure the kid is dead... but it is a child :P
    A bit like the game really :)
  • vicviper0_ESO
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    Skyrim was the first ES game to have children. They probably didn't put children in because they serve no purpose. They can't fight, your not allowed to kill them.
    with the proper mods, the children were killable. i know. i personally butchered thousands of "Braith"

  • ers101284b14_ESO
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    Skyrim was the first ES game to have children. They probably didn't put children in because they serve no purpose. They can't fight, your not allowed to kill them.
    with the proper mods, the children were killable. i know. i personally butchered thousands of "Braith"

    Ok well your not supposed to. It's like gaming law. You don't kill a child for fun. And you don't show it. Like in Heavy Rain 2 children die but you never actually see it happen.
  • Csub
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    Skyrim was the first ES game to have children. They probably didn't put children in because they serve no purpose. They can't fight, your not allowed to kill them.
    with the proper mods, the children were killable. i know. i personally butchered thousands of "Braith"

    Ok well your not supposed to. It's like gaming law. You don't kill a child for fun. And you don't show it. Like in Heavy Rain 2 children die but you never actually see it happen.

    If you fail a QTE in The Walking Dead s02 you can see a kid dying. :P
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  • ers101284b14_ESO
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    Csub wrote: »
    Skyrim was the first ES game to have children. They probably didn't put children in because they serve no purpose. They can't fight, your not allowed to kill them.
    with the proper mods, the children were killable. i know. i personally butchered thousands of "Braith"

    Ok well your not supposed to. It's like gaming law. You don't kill a child for fun. And you don't show it. Like in Heavy Rain 2 children die but you never actually see it happen.

    If you fail a QTE in The Walking Dead s02 you can see a kid dying. :P

    If you watch that they said they got past the FCC on that because you never see the bullet hit or go through her. Just like in episode 1 where Rick shoots the zombie kid. You see her go down and the gun but not the bullet piercing her head.
  • Csub
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    Csub wrote: »
    Skyrim was the first ES game to have children. They probably didn't put children in because they serve no purpose. They can't fight, your not allowed to kill them.
    with the proper mods, the children were killable. i know. i personally butchered thousands of "Braith"

    Ok well your not supposed to. It's like gaming law. You don't kill a child for fun. And you don't show it. Like in Heavy Rain 2 children die but you never actually see it happen.

    If you fail a QTE in The Walking Dead s02 you can see a kid dying. :P

    If you watch that they said they got past the FCC on that because you never see the bullet hit or go through her. Just like in episode 1 where Rick shoots the zombie kid. You see her go down and the gun but not the bullet piercing her head.

    Hmm true... Now that I think of it, you either just see her getting bit or just falling out the screen with a walker.

    I'm not sure, I read somewhere that in WS you get a quest to kill kids, not sure if it is true.

    Also, in MGS Ground Zeroes at the end, you see the death of one but since it is with an explosion, you don't actually see anything.
    "The Divines gave you a nose for a reason, Tharn. So you can keep your mouth shut and still keep breathing. - Lyris Titanborn
  • ers101284b14_ESO
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    Csub wrote: »
    Csub wrote: »
    Skyrim was the first ES game to have children. They probably didn't put children in because they serve no purpose. They can't fight, your not allowed to kill them.
    with the proper mods, the children were killable. i know. i personally butchered thousands of "Braith"

    Ok well your not supposed to. It's like gaming law. You don't kill a child for fun. And you don't show it. Like in Heavy Rain 2 children die but you never actually see it happen.

    If you fail a QTE in The Walking Dead s02 you can see a kid dying. :P

    If you watch that they said they got past the FCC on that because you never see the bullet hit or go through her. Just like in episode 1 where Rick shoots the zombie kid. You see her go down and the gun but not the bullet piercing her head.

    Hmm true... Now that I think of it, you either just see her getting bit or just falling out the screen with a walker.

    I'm not sure, I read somewhere that in WS you get a quest to kill kids, not sure if it is true.

    Also, in MGS Ground Zeroes at the end, you see the death of one but since it is with an explosion, you don't actually see anything.

    I highly doubt there's a quest to kill children in WS. Maybe some small enemies but not children. The only game I can think where you kill kids is Super Columbine RPG, and that was made by some ******* in his basement and not an actual game company.
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    Csub wrote: »
    Csub wrote: »
    Skyrim was the first ES game to have children. They probably didn't put children in because they serve no purpose. They can't fight, your not allowed to kill them.
    with the proper mods, the children were killable. i know. i personally butchered thousands of "Braith"

    Ok well your not supposed to. It's like gaming law. You don't kill a child for fun. And you don't show it. Like in Heavy Rain 2 children die but you never actually see it happen.

    If you fail a QTE in The Walking Dead s02 you can see a kid dying. :P

    If you watch that they said they got past the FCC on that because you never see the bullet hit or go through her. Just like in episode 1 where Rick shoots the zombie kid. You see her go down and the gun but not the bullet piercing her head.

    Hmm true... Now that I think of it, you either just see her getting bit or just falling out the screen with a walker.

    I'm not sure, I read somewhere that in WS you get a quest to kill kids, not sure if it is true.

    Also, in MGS Ground Zeroes at the end, you see the death of one but since it is with an explosion, you don't actually see anything.

    I highly doubt there's a quest to kill children in WS. Maybe some small enemies but not children. The only game I can think where you kill kids is Super Columbine RPG, and that was made by some ******* in his basement and not an actual game company.

    I think so, the media would be outraged by now.
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  • ers101284b14_ESO
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    Csub wrote: »
    Csub wrote: »
    Csub wrote: »
    Skyrim was the first ES game to have children. They probably didn't put children in because they serve no purpose. They can't fight, your not allowed to kill them.
    with the proper mods, the children were killable. i know. i personally butchered thousands of "Braith"

    Ok well your not supposed to. It's like gaming law. You don't kill a child for fun. And you don't show it. Like in Heavy Rain 2 children die but you never actually see it happen.

    If you fail a QTE in The Walking Dead s02 you can see a kid dying. :P

    If you watch that they said they got past the FCC on that because you never see the bullet hit or go through her. Just like in episode 1 where Rick shoots the zombie kid. You see her go down and the gun but not the bullet piercing her head.

    Hmm true... Now that I think of it, you either just see her getting bit or just falling out the screen with a walker.

    I'm not sure, I read somewhere that in WS you get a quest to kill kids, not sure if it is true.

    Also, in MGS Ground Zeroes at the end, you see the death of one but since it is with an explosion, you don't actually see anything.

    I highly doubt there's a quest to kill children in WS. Maybe some small enemies but not children. The only game I can think where you kill kids is Super Columbine RPG, and that was made by some ******* in his basement and not an actual game company.

    I think so, the media would be outraged by now.

    Oh yeah they would be all over that and it would get shut down. Like I always see media people talking about kids playing violent games but no one mentions how the kids get their hands on video games. All major retailers like Walmart, Target, GameStop, ect ect are not allowed to sell M rated games to kids. If an employee sells an M rated game to a kid they can be fired and the company can be sued.
  • Mordack
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    Skyrim was the first ES game to have children.

    There were children in Daggerfall.
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  • Phantax
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    Zenimax should definitely throw a few NPC children into the towns/cities, would certainly help immersion !
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  • ArcaneBlue
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    "M'aiq believes the children are our future. But he doesn't want them ruining all of our fun"_M'aiq The Liar, TES4
    wise words.
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  • Sleepydan
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    I think it's sad, but mildly amusing how video games and music To some extent get blamed for modern violence, like there was no violent behavior in human history before video games.
  • AngryNord
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    Isn't Nicolene (the female aboard Captain Kaleen's ship in Stros M'Kai in the Daggerfall Covenant storyline) supposed to be a child?
  • Requiemslove
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    Personally I would like to see children NPCs in ESO. I also find it hard to stomach that anyone would willingly use a mod to kill Children in any game...I mean seriously, why? That said when playing Skyrim I only ever attacked actual enemies or quest targets [for assassins guild] and always tried to keep civilian casualties to a minimum. So heck maybe I'm just too much of a people person.
  • Schallen
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    Personally I would like to see children NPCs in ESO. I also find it hard to stomach that anyone would willingly use a mod to kill Children in any game...I mean seriously, why? That said when playing Skyrim I only ever attacked actual enemies or quest targets [for assassins guild] and always tried to keep civilian casualties to a minimum. So heck maybe I'm just too much of a people person.

    I use killable children mod for immersion.

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  • AlexDougherty
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    Personally I would like to see children NPCs in ESO.

    Yes please, a few children in cities would be nice, and maybe towns and villages too. Having Children running around playing, getting in the way would make the world feel more real.

    I don't want children casualties in the game, we can skip that bit of realism, but having children refugees would be ..well not nice exactly, but more immersive.
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  • Aeradon
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    Yeah, miss 'em and need 'em.

    These children NPC better be short enough for my horses to jump over. I love the riding aspect where you have to dodge the NPC, adding another aspect would be fun (:

    We'll have "Need for Gallop" races in the city (:
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    The Khajiit ate them.

    It's very sad.

    This one *burp* cannot agree with your theory.
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    Oh yeah they would be all over that and it would get shut down. Like I always see media people talking about kids playing violent games but no one mentions how the kids get their hands on video games. All major retailers like Walmart, Target, GameStop, ect ect are not allowed to sell M rated games to kids. If an employee sells an M rated game to a kid they can be fired and the company can be sued.

    The parents/ grandparents/ aunts/ uncles buy them for the kids of course. When they are carded, they dutifully present their card, never questioning why they were carded when they weren't even purchasing alcohol.
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    Oh yeah, do we get to craft kids?
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    AngryNord wrote: »
    Isn't Nicolene (the female aboard Captain Kaleen's ship in Stros M'Kai in the Daggerfall Covenant storyline) supposed to be a child?
    I don't think so. I think she's supposed to be a teen.
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  • Tabbycat
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    There are some teenagers in the game. But I have yet to see a baby, toddler or young child.
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  • isengrimb16_ESO
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    Personally I would like to see children NPCs in ESO. I also find it hard to stomach that anyone would willingly use a mod to kill Children in any game...I mean seriously, why? That said when playing Skyrim I only ever attacked actual enemies or quest targets [for assassins guild] and always tried to keep civilian casualties to a minimum. So heck maybe I'm just too much of a people person.

    Those two brats of the Whiterun Jarl are worth offing (after you do the boy's quest, anyway.) Another is that random brat who keeps saying she's not scared of me. Well, not any more she isn't - she was too dumb to run.
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    "M'aiq believes the children are our future. But he doesn't want them ruining all of our fun"_M'aiq The Liar, TES4
    wise words.

    Ma'iq has it right there. I see kids being used to bash and control adult behaviour all the time. Oh, let's ban smoking from all apartment units, because a unit might have a kid in it, etc. Friend of mine told me the other day about an incident where he was sitting on a bench, quite alone; then some woman with kids went out of her way to come sit right there, and then complain about him smoking his cigar around her kids. He quite rightly told her and her demonspawn to *** off.

    Nah, I don't feel the need for kids in this game, unless I'm allowed to punt the mouthy little brats like gnomes for field goals.

    Edited by isengrimb16_ESO on June 15, 2014 9:10PM
  • AlexDougherty
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    Friend of mine told me the other day about an incident where he was sitting on a bench, quite alone; then some woman with kids went out of her way to come sit right there, and then complain about him smoking his cigar around her kids. He quite rightly told her and her demonspawn to *** off.

    Yeah, people don't have any common sense any more, if you're bothered by someone smoking don't go over to them and sit there. But it wasn't her kids that were to blame, just the stupid woman.
    Edited by AlexDougherty on June 15, 2014 9:21PM
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  • Alazarz
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    your not allowed to kill them ... Plus putting children into a war torn ravaged and bloody land would definately catch more negative attention from the media

    But you can't even attack all of the NPCs. This isn't Morrowind lol. So how would having children in the game draw negative attention?

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