Gold Coast Market = no more collectors items ?

Tensar · January 8

I stopped to play ESO because it simply became bad, with repetitive content every years it was not interesting at all.

I was interested to return with the seasons, because it's free at least and give some collectibles if we play, but then I saw their new "Gold Coast Market" where we can buy old time limited (collector) items. Really? So the uniques things we get for playing during a special moment are not uniques anymore?

Personally I missed a lot of things the past year (almost everything I suppose) and I am totally fine with it because I didn't play, so that's normal. And I didn't play the first years of ESO, it would be totally normal if I didn't have the chance to have the items who were available back then, because I was not here.

I am disappointed knowing players will be able to get old items, that's what made our accounts uniques and tell its story

So not even sure I'm interested in theses seasons things now if the things we get there are not uniques and will come back later, just like the old collectibles...

By trying to satisfy everybody they just satisfy nobody in the end. And that's exactly why the game slowly die since years

lillybit · January 8

Tensar wrote: »

I was interested to return with the seasons, because it's free at least and give some collectibles if we play, but then I saw their new "Gold Coast Market" where we can buy old time limited (collector) items. Really? So the uniques things we get for playing during a special moment are not uniques anymore?

Unique things haven't been unique for ages with the Impressario's assistant and Indrik seller. I got the deadlands "house" on my alt account last time it came back and a few bits on my PC account.

None of that devalues my main account that I've played since console release and already collected everything on.

PeacefulAnarchy · January 8

They said you can't buy the currency and things will rotate in and out, so those who've been playing the longest will still always be ahead of those who are new. It does mean individual time limited collectibles will be less rare, but the amount you can get is still gated. I understand some people don't like this because they value the exclusivity of time limited items, but personally I think this is a good thing. You still have an advantage as a long term player but shutting people out of cool things because they are late to the game or had to miss time is a jerk move. Having a handful of truly special time limited things is fine, but once they become a regular thing it just hurts accessibility.

For a simplified example, let's say they changed the way ESO+ statuettes and paintings work, where they release a new one every month and you still get a new one every month, but instead of only being able to get the new one you now get to choose which one you get every month. A new player can get the old ones that they really want, but they'll never fully catch up to the player who has been around the whole time.

Catch up mechanics are important to making a long term game accessible to newer players, that goes for leveling, gear collection, and collectibles as well. The key is to make sure there is still new stuff for those who have been around for a while, we won't know that part until we see the details, but that seems to be the intent.

Tensar · January 8

lillybit wrote: »

Tensar wrote: »

I was interested to return with the seasons, because it's free at least and give some collectibles if we play, but then I saw their new "Gold Coast Market" where we can buy old time limited (collector) items. Really? So the uniques things we get for playing during a special moment are not uniques anymore?

Unique things haven't been unique for ages with the Impressario's assistant and Indrik seller. I got the deadlands "house" on my alt account last time it came back and a few bits on my PC account.

None of that devalues my main account that I've played since console release and already collected everything on.

Time limited events like anniversary gave uniques items (the cake)
Elsweyr Treasure was unique

There was very few but there was some

Last time i checked the impressario only sell items who appeared during the year in previous events, not in previous years (maybe it changed?)

lillybit · January 8

Tensar wrote: »

lillybit wrote: »

Tensar wrote: »

I was interested to return with the seasons, because it's free at least and give some collectibles if we play, but then I saw their new "Gold Coast Market" where we can buy old time limited (collector) items. Really? So the uniques things we get for playing during a special moment are not uniques anymore?

Unique things haven't been unique for ages with the Impressario's assistant and Indrik seller. I got the deadlands "house" on my alt account last time it came back and a few bits on my PC account.

None of that devalues my main account that I've played since console release and already collected everything on.

Time limited events like anniversary gave uniques items (the cake)
Elsweyr Treasure was unique

There was very few but there was some

Last time i checked the impressario only sell items who appeared during the year in previous events, not in previous years (maybe it changed?)

The Artaeum house was one of those unique rewards and that's been sold in the crown store since. There have been unique pets in the daily rewards that have been in crowns crates after.

The only things that have been truly unique and once-only have been from back when it was a compulsory sub before consoles, like the Ice Wraith pet.

Gatekeeping content like this is pointless because it will always come back eventually. Why not make it in game rather than for actual money?

Fischblut · January 8

I am very disappointed now that we've learned a bit more about Gold Coast Market

This is absolutely not what I hoped it to be...

And yes, unique event items returning there like the Dragon's Treasure is sad for me as well. When everyone has everything in multiplayer game, it removes lot of excitement. Participating in old Elsweyr event for unique collectibles was a huge excitement...
Now it makes me think, what if Premium tome variants will have their cool collectibles available at Gold Coast market as well after some time? And why bother participating in some time-limited thematic events as well, if those rewards will always return?

It's like in GW2, everyone can get everything at some point, and that is the reason I skip lot of cosmetics there nowadays - but that game was always like that, so it doesn't feel like such a big disappointment; it simply was never different.
ESO used to be different in this regard, and changing it to "everyone gets everything" is disappointing

I remember when seeing a player with any Radiant Apex mount was a spectacular sight... With addition of Radiant Apex mounts for gems and Seals, they are everywhere now... Instead of marveling at such rare collectibles, I actually started seeing many flaws in some of their designs. No unique voice? No pawprints? No permanent or not very impressive trail? No light being emitted on environment? Weak "rearing up" effect? etc.

In the past, Planemeld Courser radiant apex horse with epic Coldharbour Meteor effects used to be my dream when it was random crate reward. But after some years it returned and got gems/seals price tag... And the weak trail, simple horse voice and not attractive armor made me skip it; when it was really rare, all those lesser features didn't matter as long as it got cool "rearing up" and summoning effects

lillybit · January 8

Fischblut wrote: »

I am very disappointed now that we've learned a bit more about Gold Coast Market This is absolutely not what I hoped it to be...

And yes, unique event items returning there like the Dragon's Treasure is sad for me as well. When everyone has everything in multiplayer game, it removes lot of excitement. Participating in old Elsweyr event for unique collectibles was a huge excitement...
Now it makes me think, what if Premium tome variants will have their cool collectibles available at Gold Coast market as well after some time? And why bother participating in some time-limited thematic events as well, if those rewards will always return?

It's like in GW2, everyone can get everything at some point, and that is the reason I skip lot of cosmetics there nowadays - but that game was always like that, so it doesn't feel like such a big disappointment; it simply was never different.
ESO used to be different in this regard, and changing it to "everyone gets everything" is disappointing

I remember when seeing a player with any Radiant Apex mount was a spectacular sight... With addition of Radiant Apex mounts for gems and Seals, they are everywhere now... Instead of marveling at such rare collectibles, I actually started seeing many flaws in some of their designs. No unique voice? No pawprints? No permanent or not very impressive trail? No light being emitted on environment? Weak "rearing up" effect? etc.

In the past, Planemeld Courser radiant apex horse with epic Coldharbour Meteor effects used to be my dream when it was random crate reward. But after some years it returned and got gems/seals price tag... And the weak trail, simple horse voice and not attractive armor made me skip it; when it was really rare, all those lesser features didn't matter as long as it got cool "rearing up" and summoning effects

We're probably going to have to agree to disagree here. I don't have a problem with new players being able to collect old items and don't feel like bigger and brighter is better (often the opposite). I don't feel special just because of when I happened to start playing.

It always makes me smile when I see someone ride around with the red mount that was the Vvardenfell preorder reward, because it means they've been around a while. I'd probably miss that. But not enough that I'd want to stop other players from enjoying it just to give me a single second of enjoyment (that's quickly forgotten after) every once in a while.

LunaFlora · January 8

i am happy everyone will be able to have past items like the Dragon's Treasure Trove and Grand Gallery of Tamriel.

personally i do not see a point in wanting things to not return. every player deserves these items regardless of when they started the game.

couriersix · January 8

Honestly, I have multiple rare collectors items, including the pink torchbug, forstbane wolf and frostbane guar, but I think this change is a good thing. I have some friends who joined in the past year, who love ESO but are envious about how much I have from how much I have played over time, there are also a number of ESO+ statues that I don't have due to not being able to afford ESO+ at the time, but would like. A lot of my homes are daedric/necromancer themed, but I only have one single target bone goliath to share between my homes, so having the ability to get MULTIPLE of them as decorations would be great!

I think it's fair if they keep the old, pre-One Tamriel subscriber rewards as legacy content exclusive to those who were subscribed at the time, but past that I don't see any reason for other rewards to not make a comeback in some form. People will still have to work towards earning them, and it'll remove a large FOMO component to the game which is good in the long run.

I also don't think rarity and exclusivity ties into inherent value when it comes to collectibles. We should enjoy things because they are cool and allow us to be creative within ESO, not just because we perceive it to be more valuable based off of something totally arbitrary.

Renato90085 · January 8

What is my pov:
met many new playe>new player ask my special costume/mount is so cool ,how to get>you missed you never can own them>new player last log in is 8 month ago
no they not should be special
I alway want with my friend play mara costume FX when we play,but no,they not play Eso in 2018 because they more young or 2018 eso not have our Language so they not join

Juju_beans · January 8

I don't have any issues with this. Those that did the questing for that unique item sill have their memories.

And why shouldn't the team re-use their artwork. That Artaeum house is absolutely beautiful and so much room to store furniture.

I would love to be able to get some of the old costumes that I never had a chance to get.

Soarora · January 8

Limited time items should be reserved for things you can show people outside of your house. Things like the Elsweyr preorder horse and the cake momentos. The dragon treasure trove is a very useful item that MANY people have been desperately wanting and I’m so happy for those people. I never felt an attachment to the trove just for being there in 2019, and any time someone visited a house and pointed it out… I felt bad for having it when other people don’t. The horse, on the other hand, I don’t feel bad about having because people can get the cat version if they need that style of mount. And I actually paid for it. The trove was just dependent on you redeeming a free treasure bag at the time.

Soarora · January 8

Double post but wanted to add that a lot of collectors items are also… items. Like full motif books, level 50 but not CP items, items from now inaccessible tutorials, etc. Those things aren’t being taken away either.

Malyore · January 8

This always comes up, and I'll never understand people who want to horde their unique items, basing the value of the item off of being able to wave it in front of other people who didn't have the chance/ability to get the item too. Toddler behavior.

Just let people have fun with access to content. It's a videogame.

Tensar · January 9

LunaFlora wrote: »

i am happy everyone will be able to have past items like the Dragon's Treasure Trove and Grand Gallery of Tamriel.

personally i do not see a point in wanting things to not return. every player deserves these items regardless of when they started the game.

The point? Limited items make the history of our account and our adventure, and it add more interest in being loyal to the game.
If anybody can have anything at anytime then there is no point playing the game, participating in the events. No points in being part of ESO' history if there is simply nothing special.

Renato90085 wrote: »

What is my pov:
met many new playe>new player ask my special costume/mount is so cool ,how to get>you missed you never can own them>new player last log in is 8 month ago
no they not should be special
I alway want with my friend play mara costume FX when we play,but no,they not play Eso in 2018 because they more young or 2018 eso not have our Language so they not join

Or maybe ESO just fail to attract new players and push away old players, exactly the reason why the game is in this situation in big 2K26.
People wouldn't leave just for a skin or an item. But old players leave because this community always complain for not being able to have everything. Every years I see people complaining because they don't have access to previous anniversary cakes.
And now in the game nothing is unique. Not just because of the collectibles items, but because this mentality affected everything in this game. Like classes, stories, events, spells, skins, pve/pvp etc etc

Estin · January 9

I don't think there's a single thing in this game that cannot be obtained anymore other than discontinued items. Everything always comes back whether it's through the crown store or impressario. This is such an odd thing to complain about. Do you only play this game because of the aggressive FOMO?

Arunei · January 9

I personally don't think it's a bad thing at all for people who missed certain items to have a chance at getting them. I never look at someone who has something I have and feel like mine is somehow devalued simply because someone else has it as well. This is especially true if it's something I've put effort into getting; my work and success isn't made any less by someone else also having that same thing.

I'm curious to see what sorts of things they bring back and DO wonder if certain pets like the loyalty ones from when you needed to have a sub to play will be added at any point or not.

(I also hope they add the Skeletal Pets at some point because those were introduced YEARS ago and then afaik have never been available again, tho the Skeletal Mounts have been brought back a handful of times.)

LunaFlora · January 9

the arguments to not allow players to get Dragon's Treasure Trove are always so nonsensical to me.

Seriously? just because someone was
- not playing in 2019
- missed the event
- or was not able to purchase the Elsweyr chapter before or during the event and log in for a minute to claim the event rewards?
Like that is it. No money or no time, out of your control and yet this must mean you should not have a specific furnishing.

Ilumia · January 9

PeacefulAnarchy wrote: »

They said you can't buy the currency and things will rotate in and out, so those who've been playing the longest will still always be ahead of those who are new. It does mean individual time limited collectibles will be less rare, but the amount you can get is still gated. I understand some people don't like this because they value the exclusivity of time limited items, but personally I think this is a good thing. You still have an advantage as a long term player but shutting people out of cool things because they are late to the game or had to miss time is a jerk move. Having a handful of truly special time limited things is fine, but once they become a regular thing it just hurts accessibility.

For a simplified example, let's say they changed the way ESO+ statuettes and paintings work, where they release a new one every month and you still get a new one every month, but instead of only being able to get the new one you now get to choose which one you get every month. A new player can get the old ones that they really want, but they'll never fully catch up to the player who has been around the whole time.

Catch up mechanics are important to making a long term game accessible to newer players, that goes for leveling, gear collection, and collectibles as well. The key is to make sure there is still new stuff for those who have been around for a while, we won't know that part until we see the details, but that seems to be the intent.

This is a splendid idea. And a very elegant way of solving catch-up mechanics for statuette/eso+ items.

JiubLeRepenti · January 9

First of all, I want to say that I've been very impressed (in a very positive way) by the 2026 roadmap and all the things ESO plans to add to the game in terms of QOL.

That being said, my only frustration is the end of unique collectors (even if there were only a few remaining), like the Dragon Treasure Trove.

But honestly, there is no debate to have about it. We already had it in the past and it's just useless:

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/8283782/#Comment_8283782

Some people are for it and others are against it. I personally don't have the Dragon Treasure Trove, and be sure I would like to have it since I love housing, but I always said this should stay a collector and not be purchasable. That's it.

ZOS made its choice (probably because there were more people against it), and they won't change their mind. This is the end of collectibles, no matter if you like it or not.

But, again, besides that, I'm really hyped by the previous livestream. I just hope we won't be deceived.

Koshka · January 9

LunaFlora wrote: »

the arguments to not allow players to get Dragon's Treasure Trove are always so nonsensical to me.

Seriously? just because someone was
- not playing in 2019
- missed the event
- or was not able to purchase the Elsweyr chapter before or during the event and log in for a minute to claim the event rewards?
Like that is it. No money or no time, out of your control and yet this must mean you should not have a specific furnishing.

Yeah, it was possible to claim all these items without doing a single quest for the event. You just had to own the chapter and claim the reward from crown store within the time frame. Because of that, some players who actually fit the criteria weren't able to get the items - sometimes real life happens and you cannot play for a while.
The actual earnable rewards like trifecta mounts, chapter completion mounts, skins, pets etc are still tied to their respective challenges and that is not gonna change.

P.S. btw I own some items that weren't available since like 2019 and I don't mind if a new player gets a chance to get them.

SkaiFaith · January 9

Tensar wrote: »

I stopped to play ESO because it simply became bad, with repetitive content every years it was not interesting at all.

I was interested to return with the seasons, because it's free at least and give some collectibles if we play, but then I saw their new "Gold Coast Market" where we can buy old time limited (collector) items. Really? So the uniques things we get for playing during a special moment are not uniques anymore?

Personally I missed a lot of things the past year (almost everything I suppose) and I am totally fine with it because I didn't play, so that's normal. And I didn't play the first years of ESO, it would be totally normal if I didn't have the chance to have the items who were available back then, because I was not here.

I am disappointed knowing players will be able to get old items, that's what made our accounts uniques and tell its story

So not even sure I'm interested in theses seasons things now if the things we get there are not uniques and will come back later, just like the old collectibles...

By trying to satisfy everybody they just satisfy nobody in the end. And that's exactly why the game slowly die since years

Couldn't DISagree more.
Playing since 2017 and I am oh so glad everyone will be able to get things like the Elsweyr event exclusive treasure furnishing or the Dibellan outfit style

Personally, I hope to be able to get for myself the pink torchbug and the ice wraith pets. Not sure if those will be possible but it would make me very happy

Less exclusivity and more generosity is the way to go to make more players enjoy their stay here, IMO.

EDIT: I didn't want to purchase 2025 content pass at launch. I didn't want to own DLC dungeons - always avoided them but were included in content pass. I purchased it anyway because I REALLY wanted the Mages guild recall.
If tomorrow said recall will be purchasable for free in game... I couldn't care less, in fact I would even be happy for other players to get it! It's my fault and my fault alone that I decided to pay for it, and I didn't sign anywhere for an exclusivity contract.

lillybit · January 9

To the best of my knowledge, they've never said time limited items are exclusive and will never return, with the exception of the original subscriber rewards (and maybe the chapter preorder mounts - I have an feeling they said they were but don't remember specifically. Either way they've never been available seperately). It's been 11 years and things like the ice wraith and tiger mount have never been available on console so it's fair to say they're keeping that promise (tho I personally think it's probably been long enough to satisfy that).

I don't understand why people fixate on the dragon treasure as something sacred that can never be repeated. There was so much hate for it at the time. It was just a second rate prize in place of the house it should've been because that's what it was the year before. The house has been in the crown store so I'm not sure what makes the treasure so special that it had the expectation it couldn't come back.

Seems to me if they say it'll never come back they stick to it and they aren't responsible for your expectations for everything else.

ShinyBacon · January 9

i feel there will be probably so much on offer in that bazaar and comparatively little currency so that new players still will have to choose of either getting an old item they missed or a new items just being offered.

But either way i welcome that new players have the chance to get old items, i dont understand the jealousy around virtual items.

Ezhh · January 9

I could never understand why anyone would want to prevent players getting access to a furnishing. There are so many skilled housing players who might have missed getting that chapter. Let them get their treasure horde so that the rest of us can appreciate what they'll do with it.

Tensar · January 9

Ezhh wrote: »

I could never understand why anyone would want to prevent players getting access to a furnishing. There are so many skilled housing players who might have missed getting that chapter. Let them get their treasure horde so that the rest of us can appreciate what they'll do with it.

Or the devs can simply add more variety and type of treasures

lillybit · January 9

Tensar wrote: »

Ezhh wrote: »

I could never understand why anyone would want to prevent players getting access to a furnishing. There are so many skilled housing players who might have missed getting that chapter. Let them get their treasure horde so that the rest of us can appreciate what they'll do with it.

Or the devs can simply add more variety and type of treasures

There's lots of different pets but people still want specific ones

Enemoriana · January 9

Tensar wrote: »

The point? Limited items make the history of our account and our adventure, and it add more interest in being loyal to the game.
If anybody can have anything at anytime then there is no point playing the game, participating in the events. No points in being part of ESO' history if there is simply nothing special.

What adventure is in "claim reward in crownstore"?
And for earnable rewards... I'm playing since release, and since 2017 I log in at least once a week. And there still are some rewards I didn't get - just because of different technical issues, half of them with game itself, like not being able to log in for several hours in the end of event. Truly history of adventure!

Silaf · January 10

For me the Bazaar is the best ting happening in ESO for years.
I'm playing since beta and never missed an event except the Dragon rise reward period because i was in hospital and it bugged me ever since.

Keep in mind real life exist and for some people missing certain items is really annoying.
We are all collectors here and tings should never disappear forever from the game.

Big thanks to ZOS for finally returning past event items.

Attorneyatlawl · January 10

lillybit wrote: »

To the best of my knowledge, they've never said time limited items are exclusive and will never return, with the exception of the original subscriber rewards (and maybe the chapter preorder mounts - I have an feeling they said they were but don't remember specifically. Either way they've never been available seperately). It's been 11 years and things like the ice wraith and tiger mount have never been available on console so it's fair to say they're keeping that promise (tho I personally think it's probably been long enough to satisfy that).
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You know someone's an old player when they ride by you on their tiger mount

. I love mine and hope they stick to their promise of it remaining unique to year 1 players.

LunaFlora · January 10

Attorneyatlawl wrote: »

lillybit wrote: »

To the best of my knowledge, they've never said time limited items are exclusive and will never return, with the exception of the original subscriber rewards (and maybe the chapter preorder mounts - I have an feeling they said they were but don't remember specifically. Either way they've never been available seperately). It's been 11 years and things like the ice wraith and tiger mount have never been available on console so it's fair to say they're keeping that promise (tho I personally think it's probably been long enough to satisfy that).
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You know someone's an old player when they ride by you on their tiger mount . I love mine and hope they stick to their promise of it remaining unique to year 1 players.

when i see someone on the Striped Senche Tiger, i just see a mount i cannot ever obtain and well someone riding a cat.
it is not impressive that they were able to pay for ESO Plus more than a decade ago.

Plus, i hardly see it anyways. Most people like newer mounts more as they look better or because they dislike Senche mounts.

edited to add:
it is not fun telling people who ask about your collectible that it has not been available since its release and may never return.

most players are unlikely to know what the Striped Senche Tiger is unless they ask or read about it. it is simply a cat mount, which looks old.