BardokRedSnow wrote: »Give the people what we really want, a Winterhold expansion in Skyrim. We never got to see it in its full glory in TES V, its basically untouched, and zos can do whatever they want with it storywise, and make up for the story in Solitude which was meh and had nothing really to do with Nords at all, and for the love of Shor, no more of this oh we have an island conveniently divided by three cultures representing every faction slop.
Y'all can do better. Thats what made me wait to see if the content would be worth playing and seems that its a good thing I did.
I am tempted to get eso plus for a month to store all this furniture in the furniture vaults tho.
SerafinaWaterstar wrote: »BardokRedSnow wrote: »Give the people what we really want, a Winterhold expansion in Skyrim. We never got to see it in its full glory in TES V, its basically untouched, and zos can do whatever they want with it storywise, and make up for the story in Solitude which was meh and had nothing really to do with Nords at all, and for the love of Shor, no more of this oh we have an island conveniently divided by three cultures representing every faction slop.
Y'all can do better. Thats what made me wait to see if the content would be worth playing and seems that its a good thing I did.
I am tempted to get eso plus for a month to store all this furniture in the furniture vaults tho.
Please stop with the ‘we’.
Either have the courage to speak for yourself or refrain from posting.
I have no interest in a Winterhold expansion and have little interest in Nords.
Quite interested in Solstice however, and the differences in the Argonians and Altmer there.
They’re intentionally making players who didn’t buy Solstice suffer, and it’s honestly demeaning. If it weren’t for one of my friends still playing, I’d have uninstalled without hesitation. It’s obvious they want everyone to buy the overpriced expansion. The problem isn’t the price, it’s the value compared to what they’re asking for. They forgot that competition exists,newer games give far more content and even free expansions. They call it a “choice,” but it’s just punishment for not buying the content pass, with horrible RNG and super random spawn rates. The Soul Reaper thing is just one example out of many.
All the good parts are locked behind Solstice. I promised myself I wouldn’t spend another dime after getting screwed by the deluxe edition that didn’t include “everything from previous chapters” like it claimed. The smaller DLCs are still sold separately. It’s $80, and other new games with better graphics,animation , ui , story , and all actually give everything for that price. I had to spend another $20 each for the missing stuff, and it left a terrible taste in my mouth. I’m done. I’m not paying double for what I already own. Solstice is full of recycled assets, and it’s not worth touching for the price they’re asking. My friend is really the only reason why i stayed XD so it a blessing and a curse
Two disclosures which influence my vote/reply; I've worked in the industry as an event manager for an MMO, and I got Solstice for free from a kind friend.
But I still had to vote no, it's very disappointing.
I'm somewhat sympathetic to the limited, repeated content element of the event as, at least in my experience, there are usually programmers, who set the tools you have, and designers who use those tools to give you content. And if ESO is being run on a shoestring the designers won't have many if any new tools and just have to dress up stuff they already can use in new ways... that's how it was on Ultima Online for we EMs. But that also doesn't change the players experience of the content, let alone make it right. I suspect ESO is making a lot of money for someone, what with the FOMO and Whale addiction targetting practices, and it's not filtering down toward development. And that's extremely disappointing. I want to be kind to the Devs no doubt getting reamed on both sides, justifiably from the players who experience dull, repetitive content they've already seen before, and no doubt from staff elsewhere who say things like "Pretend it's all awesome, describe it as world changing, sell this crap so we can buy another lamborghini"... but at the end of the day, you're here to provide something wonderful for the players; either poop or get off the pot.
And secondly, despite getting it for free, if even I am feeling the value content of this event is poor, then it's shocking they've charged a season pass amount for this; again, blame the Whales and the FOMO addicted for allowing the industry to exploit their unhealthy behavioural patterns, but ESO still is responsbile for the effort they put in, and it's very, very bad.
Solstice is tiny, sparsely populated and landscapped, and the event is not only badly designed but even the bugs are irredeemably bad; revealing the animation for attacking the gate in a later stage everytime you access the teleport to the Solstice camp? Having the Stage 2 World Boss spawn in Stage 1, but not give the associated rewards? How is every bug a disappointing spoiler? How to you set drop rates to be so low for the only quest that will be camped to buggery, remove the golden chest from it showing you know how frustrating it is... then leave the frustration of drops in? How do you openly show that the Event "Progress" is being fiddled to stall for time, and not pull that out of the design so as not to frustrate your player base? Do the Devs not understand what playing for enjoyment is any more, is it all marketing and behaviour exploitation now?
As the details of where the drops becomes more known by the player base, I moved over to Delve bosses to try and get some furniture at least. Even there the drops are low, respawn rates are long, and a few of them have abilities to murder solo players. Again, industry experience, I know the logic behind why you put drop rates low on mass engagement events; you hope to encourage trading between players, which will allow lucky newbies to trade at current Gold value rates and catch up. But that logic is hopelessly outdated in an age of online grifting and price fixing etc. There's a reason a lot of MMOs have moved away to personal progress instead, and that's because players just prefer to play at their own pace, and make their own luck...
Now I blitzed the GP in 4 hours, because despite only playing for maybe 2 years, I already knew all the cheesy methods to maximise return from the same old content. But I'll never use the mount or pet because they are (subjectively) ugly, and doesn't fit my personal/roleplay needs. I don't feel anything much about achieving them, when I should feel delighted in working towards the goal. Which is how a truly "world changing" event should treat you in game; why is the reward fixed, where are the "Choose your own reward" tokens so people can pick their own mount, something they'd actually want, as a thank you for finally defeating the Worm Cult, say? I know why they aren't in game of course, but even MMOs that follow the Whale-Soaking model, like Star Trek Online, will give you free "Any top end ship" tokens during events, knowing it's just one out of hundreds available. ESO can't even manage that grudging easing of predatory behaviour.
And there are to be weeks of this? With no change now until Stage 3? Urgh.
This is bad. ESO, do better by your players.
SerafinaWaterstar wrote: »BardokRedSnow wrote: »Give the people what we really want, a Winterhold expansion in Skyrim. We never got to see it in its full glory in TES V, its basically untouched, and zos can do whatever they want with it storywise, and make up for the story in Solitude which was meh and had nothing really to do with Nords at all, and for the love of Shor, no more of this oh we have an island conveniently divided by three cultures representing every faction slop.
Y'all can do better. Thats what made me wait to see if the content would be worth playing and seems that its a good thing I did.
I am tempted to get eso plus for a month to store all this furniture in the furniture vaults tho.
Please stop with the ‘we’.
Either have the courage to speak for yourself or refrain from posting.
I have no interest in a Winterhold expansion and have little interest in Nords.
Quite interested in Solstice however, and the differences in the Argonians and Altmer there.
SerafinaWaterstar wrote: »BardokRedSnow wrote: »Give the people what we really want, a Winterhold expansion in Skyrim. We never got to see it in its full glory in TES V, its basically untouched, and zos can do whatever they want with it storywise, and make up for the story in Solitude which was meh and had nothing really to do with Nords at all, and for the love of Shor, no more of this oh we have an island conveniently divided by three cultures representing every faction slop.
Y'all can do better. Thats what made me wait to see if the content would be worth playing and seems that its a good thing I did.
I am tempted to get eso plus for a month to store all this furniture in the furniture vaults tho.
Please stop with the ‘we’.
Either have the courage to speak for yourself or refrain from posting.
I have no interest in a Winterhold expansion and have little interest in Nords.
Quite interested in Solstice however, and the differences in the Argonians and Altmer there.
Personally I would love to go check out Winterhold so I guess “we” is applicable. 🤷♂️
Solstice is a boring rehash of reused assets, and not exactly representing either culture respectfully. Instead of actually combining the themes to make something new they just placed existing assets side by side and we paid them for it with the Content Pass… we can do the exact same thing with housing.
BardokRedSnow wrote: »SerafinaWaterstar wrote: »BardokRedSnow wrote: »Give the people what we really want, a Winterhold expansion in Skyrim. We never got to see it in its full glory in TES V, its basically untouched, and zos can do whatever they want with it storywise, and make up for the story in Solitude which was meh and had nothing really to do with Nords at all, and for the love of Shor, no more of this oh we have an island conveniently divided by three cultures representing every faction slop.
Y'all can do better. Thats what made me wait to see if the content would be worth playing and seems that its a good thing I did.
I am tempted to get eso plus for a month to store all this furniture in the furniture vaults tho.
Please stop with the ‘we’.
Either have the courage to speak for yourself or refrain from posting.
I have no interest in a Winterhold expansion and have little interest in Nords.
Quite interested in Solstice however, and the differences in the Argonians and Altmer there.
So yea anyways we want to go back to Skyrim, Zos I dont have to tell you how popular the og game was, y'all know where the money is
tomofhyrule wrote: »BardokRedSnow wrote: »SerafinaWaterstar wrote: »BardokRedSnow wrote: »Give the people what we really want, a Winterhold expansion in Skyrim. We never got to see it in its full glory in TES V, its basically untouched, and zos can do whatever they want with it storywise, and make up for the story in Solitude which was meh and had nothing really to do with Nords at all, and for the love of Shor, no more of this oh we have an island conveniently divided by three cultures representing every faction slop.
Y'all can do better. Thats what made me wait to see if the content would be worth playing and seems that its a good thing I did.
I am tempted to get eso plus for a month to store all this furniture in the furniture vaults tho.
Please stop with the ‘we’.
Either have the courage to speak for yourself or refrain from posting.
I have no interest in a Winterhold expansion and have little interest in Nords.
Quite interested in Solstice however, and the differences in the Argonians and Altmer there.
So yea anyways we want to go back to Skyrim, Zos I dont have to tell you how popular the og game was, y'all know where the money is
“The OG game?” You mean Arena?
Because Skyrim was the fifth mainline Elder Scrolls game, you know that right?
tomofhyrule wrote: »BardokRedSnow wrote: »SerafinaWaterstar wrote: »BardokRedSnow wrote: »Give the people what we really want, a Winterhold expansion in Skyrim. We never got to see it in its full glory in TES V, its basically untouched, and zos can do whatever they want with it storywise, and make up for the story in Solitude which was meh and had nothing really to do with Nords at all, and for the love of Shor, no more of this oh we have an island conveniently divided by three cultures representing every faction slop.
Y'all can do better. Thats what made me wait to see if the content would be worth playing and seems that its a good thing I did.
I am tempted to get eso plus for a month to store all this furniture in the furniture vaults tho.
Please stop with the ‘we’.
Either have the courage to speak for yourself or refrain from posting.
I have no interest in a Winterhold expansion and have little interest in Nords.
Quite interested in Solstice however, and the differences in the Argonians and Altmer there.
So yea anyways we want to go back to Skyrim, Zos I dont have to tell you how popular the og game was, y'all know where the money is
Veinblood1965 wrote: »
Crazy people don't know they are crazy.... ..... lol
“almost” and is this supposed to be bait?
BardokRedSnow wrote: »So yea anyways we want to go back to Skyrim, Zos I dont have to tell you how popular the og game was, y'all know where the money is
BardokRedSnow wrote: »So yea anyways we want to go back to Skyrim, Zos I dont have to tell you how popular the og game was, y'all know where the money is
If things remain on the current level, what you'd get would be an uninspired story with clichéd characters in front of a nice backdrop. If that's enough for you: Have fun.