The Crown Store has reached critical levels of immersion breakage

ArchMikem · August 3

It's of my unprofessional opinion that the Crown Store cosmetics have begun to reach critical levels of immersion breakage.

I ran into a dancing Molag Bal, in the middle of town.

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Erickson9610 · August 3

A client-side toggle to hide cosmetics you don't want to see would be ideal for preventing this.

nickl413 · August 4

That was Molag Ballerina.

licenturion · August 4

Most games don't care about immersion since 2020.

I was playing call of duty the other day and this mil sim is full of cell shaded Beavis and Butt-Head, Seth Rogen and the puppet girl from Squid Game red light/green light.

The irony is that the power to stop this nonsense was in the hands of the players. Yet, most people keep buying. So don't expect changes anytime. It will get worse.

LouisaB75 · August 4

Did you take a video?

I want to see dancing daedric princes too.

randconfig · August 4

Erickson9610 wrote: »

A client-side toggle to hide cosmetics you don't want to see would be ideal for preventing this.

I guess I would be fine with that, but where do you draw the line? Do you get to pick and choose what cosmetics to see, does that include outfits, what about polymorphs, or in-game earnable skins and costumes. Just seems like it could get really convoluted and take a lot of resources from the dev team..

Yudo · August 4

Anyone remember this?

Personally the dancer personality where people wiggle non stop is kind of odd...like what is wrong with them.

nickl413 · August 4

randconfig wrote: »

Erickson9610 wrote: »

A client-side toggle to hide cosmetics you don't want to see would be ideal for preventing this.

I guess I would be fine with that, but where do you draw the line? Do you get to pick and choose what cosmetics to see, does that include outfits, what about polymorphs, or in-game earnable skins and costumes. Just seems like it could get really convoluted and take a lot of resources from the dev team..

I'm fine with it too but it will never happen because every cosmetic you see in the game is an advertisement for the crown store.

darkriketz · August 4

ArchMikem wrote: »

It's of my unprofessional opinion that the Crown Store cosmetics have begun to reach critical levels of immersion breakage.

I ran into a dancing Molag Bal, in the middle of town.

I think my enduring limit is a little lower than yours, I barely understand why I see Molag Bals at all.
It's a daedric prince, a major opponent of the main storyline, it would like playing SWTOR and crossing path with dozens of Darth Vader cause "look at the new skin it's so cool".
Which makes me remember that in SWTOR (I barely played it cause I didn't liked the style and I'm not a SW fan anyway, only a prelogy fan), during character creation, some names are forbidden to the players. How many "members of the Great Houses of Morrowind" have I seen while playing ? Telvanni, Hlaalu and Redoran shouldn't be allowed names for played characters.

What will it be next time, Daedric Princes skins ? Will I cross my beloved Lady Azura wherever I go ? If yes, I think I'll stop loving her really quickly.

randconfig · August 4

nickl413 wrote: »

randconfig wrote: »

Erickson9610 wrote: »

A client-side toggle to hide cosmetics you don't want to see would be ideal for preventing this.

I guess I would be fine with that, but where do you draw the line? Do you get to pick and choose what cosmetics to see, does that include outfits, what about polymorphs, or in-game earnable skins and costumes. Just seems like it could get really convoluted and take a lot of resources from the dev team..

I'm fine with it too but it will never happen because every cosmetic you see in the game is an advertisement for the crown store.

That's kinda true too. Might hurt their ability to make money to support new content/the servers. So I'd rather they don't do this, even if I can empathize with the OP not wanting to see fireworks every time someone summons their mount or the main story bad guy in town doing a dance lol

Faulgor · August 4

nickl413 wrote: »

randconfig wrote: »

Erickson9610 wrote: »

A client-side toggle to hide cosmetics you don't want to see would be ideal for preventing this.

I guess I would be fine with that, but where do you draw the line? Do you get to pick and choose what cosmetics to see, does that include outfits, what about polymorphs, or in-game earnable skins and costumes. Just seems like it could get really convoluted and take a lot of resources from the dev team..

I'm fine with it too but it will never happen because every cosmetic you see in the game is an advertisement for the crown store.

You'd think so, but whenever I was asked "that looks so cool, what is it/where did you get it" I usually have to say I have no idea (and the game doesn't actually tell you in most cases where a collectible is actually from), or that it's no longer available. Both aren't great to sell something. Usually just leaves everyone frustrated or disappointed.

BoloBoffin · August 4

We aren't Fortnite yet. We are a long way away from Fantastic Four skins.

ETA: I totally forgot about changing my signature line, lol. That wasn't me dancing in town, I promise! (Yet.)

Cardhwion · August 4

After playing FF14 for a while, I find ESO cosmetics not that flashy.

DreamsUnderStars · August 4

I'm fine with it too but it will never happen because every cosmetic you see in the game is an advertisement for the crown store.

Incorrect! It's an advert for FoMO lol. Since half the time those cosmetics are no longer available.

LadyGP · August 4

Yudo wrote: »

Anyone remember this?

Personally the dancer personality where people wiggle non stop is kind of odd...like what is wrong with them.

Came here to literally post this. GGs

Sordidfairytale · August 4

My horsie looks like this.

Nemesis7884 · August 4

They should calm it down or make an option where you can tone down certain effects (but it shouldnt tone down normal effects as well only the crazy ones)

Chili_Pepper · August 4

2018...Tamriel Hero looks like

2025...

We got what we deserve...

Delimber · August 4

ArchMikem wrote: »

It's of my unprofessional opinion that the Crown Store cosmetics have begun to reach critical levels of immersion breakage.

I ran into a dancing Molag Bal, in the middle of town.

Meh,

Just tell yourself someone got drunk and starting casting illusion spells on themselves.

Would be really entertaining if the guards would start attacking you for looking like Molag Bal, like how the guards attack me for running around town as a Werewolf lol.

Horace-Wimp · August 4

Chili_Pepper wrote: »

2018...Tamriel Hero looks like

2025...

We got what we deserve...

Aquaman! LOL!

exiars10 · August 4

Horace-Wimp wrote: »

Aquaman! LOL!

No.

This is real Aquaman

(and read chat

).

Desiato · August 4

Honestly, I reached this point with the ice wraith pet in 2014. I wasn't the only one. But that ship has long sailed. It is what it is. We basically play the Marvel Universe version of The Elder Scrolls.

onyxorb · August 4

Chili_Pepper wrote: »

2018...Tamriel Hero looks like

2025...

We got what we deserve...

To be fair, the second one is the best disguise for an assassin or thief as no one would be expecting it.

As for immersion, it's been past the point of no return for years. I just ignore 90% of what I see in game and pretend it doesn't exists. LOL.

ajkb78 · August 4

darkriketz wrote: »

ArchMikem wrote: »

It's of my unprofessional opinion that the Crown Store cosmetics have begun to reach critical levels of immersion breakage.

I ran into a dancing Molag Bal, in the middle of town.

How many "members of the Great Houses of Morrowind" have I seen while playing ? Telvanni, Hlaalu and Redoran shouldn't be allowed names for played characters.

Why on earth not? They're perfectly cromulent names for in-world characters to have. Why would it be unreasonable for some little-known, never-going-to-inherit minor scion of House Telvanni to go off and seek their fortune as an adventurer? If you go to that level of nitpickingness it's entirely immersion-breaking to see hundreds or thousands of other (player) characters running around all of whom have also defeated Molag Bal in exactly the same way as you. Fortunately TES has the ultimate lore-preserving feature that it's all explicitly part of the creator's dream, so you can retcon this and literally everything else as you're inside a big dragonbreak where any and all versions of reality all coincide and interact, so when you see this *other* version of The Hero, it's just another version of you inside the creator's dream. Which, I suppose, it actually is...

tomofhyrule · August 4

"Oh no! There are other people in my MMO! Ghastly!"

SilverBride · August 4

I hate that dancing side to side personality (not sure what it's called) more than any. I find any constant movement around my character extremely annoying.

JemadarofCaerSalis · August 4

ajkb78 wrote: »

darkriketz wrote: »

ArchMikem wrote: »

It's of my unprofessional opinion that the Crown Store cosmetics have begun to reach critical levels of immersion breakage.

I ran into a dancing Molag Bal, in the middle of town.

How many "members of the Great Houses of Morrowind" have I seen while playing ? Telvanni, Hlaalu and Redoran shouldn't be allowed names for played characters.

Why on earth not? They're perfectly cromulent names for in-world characters to have. Why would it be unreasonable for some little-known, never-going-to-inherit minor scion of House Telvanni to go off and seek their fortune as an adventurer? If you go to that level of nitpickingness it's entirely immersion-breaking to see hundreds or thousands of other (player) characters running around all of whom have also defeated Molag Bal in exactly the same way as you. Fortunately TES has the ultimate lore-preserving feature that it's all explicitly part of the creator's dream, so you can retcon this and literally everything else as you're inside a big dragonbreak where any and all versions of reality all coincide and interact, so when you see this *other* version of The Hero, it's just another version of you inside the creator's dream. Which, I suppose, it actually is...

I was thinking this, because to my knowledge being 'of House Telvanni/Hlaalu/Redoran' doesn't mean you were born to it (as even Khajiit and Argonian slaves can join House Telvanni), but rather that you swore allegiance to it. I mean, even in Morrowind itself (the game), you could rise to the highest rank of one of the houses, and you were supposed to be a prisoner just off a ship.

Sluggy · August 4

ajkb78 wrote: »

darkriketz wrote: »

ArchMikem wrote: »

It's of my unprofessional opinion that the Crown Store cosmetics have begun to reach critical levels of immersion breakage.

I ran into a dancing Molag Bal, in the middle of town.

How many "members of the Great Houses of Morrowind" have I seen while playing ? Telvanni, Hlaalu and Redoran shouldn't be allowed names for played characters.

Why on earth not? They're perfectly cromulent names for in-world characters to have. Why would it be unreasonable for some little-known, never-going-to-inherit minor scion of House Telvanni to go off and seek their fortune as an adventurer? If you go to that level of nitpickingness it's entirely immersion-breaking to see hundreds or thousands of other (player) characters running around all of whom have also defeated Molag Bal in exactly the same way as you. Fortunately TES has the ultimate lore-preserving feature that it's all explicitly part of the creator's dream, so you can retcon this and literally everything else as you're inside a big dragonbreak where any and all versions of reality all coincide and interact, so when you see this *other* version of The Hero, it's just another version of you inside the creator's dream. Which, I suppose, it actually is...

A cromulent name embiggens even the smallest person.

Morgaledh · August 4

Chili_Pepper wrote: »

2018...Tamriel Hero looks like

2025...

We got what we deserve...

QFE

Came here to say this. [snip]
[edited for baiting]

ZOS_Kevin · August 4

Hi all,

Wanted to follow up here. The goal is always to provided a balance of more grounded yet cool items and more fun/ fantastical items as well.

We have taken note and shared feedback when some items may push that balance a bit far, like our 4-sword horse friend. (I find this mount fun, but totally understand it can be super jarring.)

However, the item selections are meant to give you the player tools to be creative and have fun. Sometimes player choice will lead to a dancing Molag Bal, as jarring as that can be. But between the Crown Store items, in-game items and in-game event items, there are plenty of choices to make a more grounded experience for yourself and for others if they so choose. Some may go down the route of Sheogorath for a more maddening experience, but they should have the option to do so as well.

All that being said, happy to take any additional feedback to the team for their consideration. Is there a style or kind of cosmetic we have made in the past that you would like us to lean more into?

Thanks for any feedback give here. And please be mindful when submitting feedback that you remember community guidelines.

Vonnegut2506 · August 4

Is there ever going to be an option to shut off the annoying visual clutter, lightshows, and explosion noises on our end?