Scribing System Coming to Base Game
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TyrTrolas✭✭✭Jewel Crafting should also be part of the base game. I paid full money for Gold Road because of Scribing as it main feature and now you are giving it for free after a short time (a bit more than a year) instead of Jewel Crafting which it is much older and useful content (since 2018).
So true I bought it on day 2, What a waste of money had I known it was gonna be free after only one year.6 -
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✭✭Will Gold Road owners before this change get something? because some of us bought the expansion for the scribing system.
People who paid for IC, Wrothgar, Morrowind, and any other content that has been given away for free have not been compensated. This will be no different. I don't think this is a bad thing btw. You are paying for early access.
If there would be notice "You pay for early access. Contents of this DLC will be available for free at later date", I would never spend money on them
I could spend those money on other things while waiting for DLC giveaways 
I don't like that Scribing will be a base game feature, because that was big part of Gold Road value. If there would be some compensation for players who bought Gold Road as chapter (few crown crates, exclusive mount or costume?), it would make me feel better.6 -
Artem_gig✭✭✭Even though I bought the chapter for the sake of this feature. I am very glad that it is becoming a part of the base game. It's really wonderful. Such basic things should be part of the main game (by the way, as well as jewelry). In general, thanks to zos for such a wonderful gift! (even though it's not for me, because I've already a chapter).9 -
dark_hunterxmg✭✭✭✭Will Gold Road owners before this change get something? because some of us bought the expansion for the scribing system.
People who paid for IC, Wrothgar, Morrowind, and any other content that has been given away for free have not been compensated. This will be no different. I don't think this is a bad thing btw. You are paying for early access.
If there would be notice "You pay for early access. Contents of this DLC will be available for free at later date", I would never spend money on them I could spend those money on other things while waiting for DLC giveaways
I don't like that Scribing will be a base game feature, because that was big part of Gold Road value. If there would be some compensation for players who bought Gold Road as chapter (few crown crates, exclusive mount or costume?), it would make me feel better.
No way they're going to do that. Consider this a lesson learned. I learned my lesson with High Isle. Always assume that something will be free later. Always assume that the nice new item set will get nerfed later. Don't buy something to be exclusive, buy it because you want it.9 -
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✭wolfie1.0. wrote: »Will Gold Road owners before this change get something? because some of us bought the expansion for the scribing system.
No, nothing is planned at this time. However, the Scribing Golden Pursuit is rewarding AND equally available to both those who have already invested time into Scribing, and first-time Scribers. In fact, those who have used Scribing over the last year may find some tasks faster and easier to complete.
Why hasn't jewelry crafting been made base game yet? Summerset was released quite a while ago and it's still not mainstream.
My guess is that Jewelry is something that you can still trade for, that gives meaning to purple drops and Vet Trials content.
Scribing on the other hand is account/character-specific and untradable.Edited by Avran_Sylt on April 26, 2025 12:16PM0 -
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✭✭✭Will Gold Road owners before this change get something? because some of us bought the expansion for the scribing system.
People who paid for IC, Wrothgar, Morrowind, and any other content that has been given away for free have not been compensated. This will be no different. I don't think this is a bad thing btw. You are paying for early access.
If there would be notice "You pay for early access. Contents of this DLC will be available for free at later date", I would never spend money on them I could spend those money on other things while waiting for DLC giveaways
I don't like that Scribing will be a base game feature, because that was big part of Gold Road value. If there would be some compensation for players who bought Gold Road as chapter (few crown crates, exclusive mount or costume?), it would make me feel better.
Chapter features have been converted to DLC items (and thus included with ESO+ which is available for free during certain events - and allow for anything unlocked during that free sub period to remain e.g. scribing/scrying/psijic etc) since the implementation of chapters started.
The only difference here is that scribing will be base game without subscription rather than requiring an event to unlock it.@Solar_Breeze
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skayl✭✭It would be awesome to get a little more clarification about this "short window from June to July" where we won't be able to gain access to scribing! Will this effect people who purchase the Gold Road expansion before it leaves the store? Those who buy the premium 2025 content pass, which includes Gold Road? Will it effect people who buy the Gold Road DLC once it enters the in-game crown store? Will it effect those who have access to Gold Road, but have not initiated the questline to unlock scribing? I want to make sure that I plan accordingly, buy the DLC, and unlock the system before this lockout window begins.PC/NA - cp2000+2 -
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✭✭✭✭✭It would be awesome to get a little more clarification about this "short window from June to July" where we won't be able to gain access to scribing! Will this effect people who purchase the Gold Road expansion before it leaves the store? Those who buy the premium 2025 content pass, which includes Gold Road? Will it effect people who buy the Gold Road DLC once it enters the in-game crown store? Will it effect those who have access to Gold Road, but have not initiated the questline to unlock scribing? I want to make sure that I plan accordingly, buy the DLC, and unlock the system before this lockout window begins.
It likely means that Gold Road will be unavailable as a "Chapter" after June 2 when Solstice drops. Normally, the old Chapter becomes DLC immediately, but that one likely won't convert right away so it may not be added to ESO+ on release.
Gold Road will likely be added as DLC (so with ESO+) in July, at which point Scribing will be offerred separately in the Crown Store.
Thus, anyone who doesn't own the Gold Road Chapter specifically will not be able to access it until July, and the Gold Road Chapter will not be sold directly after June 2. However, there may be ways to get it (e.g. Streamer Codes or the Premium Content Pass) that will still allow you to get it.
If you already own Gold Road from anything, you will not lose access to it. This only means that there will be no (direct) way to buy Gold Road between the time it leaves the store in June and when it comes back to the store in July.1 -
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✭@ZOS_Kevin will the golden pursuit containing scribing have scribing as the pinnacle reward or will there be an alternative reward for all of the players that have already purchased scribing in the past?
I would hope so, because otherwise that campaign will be largely useless for a large portion of the playerbase.
I'm definitely happy and excited for those getting scribing for free though!PS5-NA. For The Queen!0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Cooperharley wrote: »ZOS_Kevin will the golden pursuit containing scribing have scribing as the pinnacle reward or will there be an alternative reward for all of the players that have already purchased scribing in the past?
I would hope so, because otherwise that campaign will be largely useless for a large portion of the playerbase.
I'm definitely happy and excited for those getting scribing for free though!
The implication was not that Scribing would be the reward from the Golden Pursuit. Rather that the tasks for said pursuit would involve Scribing, and that Scribing would be offerred for free in the Crown Store so players without Gold Road would be able to collect it and complete the tasks.1 -
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✭✭✭✭Jewel Crafting should also be part of the base game. I paid full money for Gold Road because of Scribing as it main feature and now you are giving it for free after a short time (a bit more than a year) instead of Jewel Crafting which it is much older and useful content (since 2018).
Jewelry Crafting isn't considered a must have feature, because the player isn't reliant upon being able to craft their own jewelry. Jewelry can be acquired from other players.
Scribing however is player/character contained. Another player can't scribe skills for you.
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icapital✭✭✭✭Cooperharley wrote: »@ZOS_Kevin will the golden pursuit containing scribing have scribing as the pinnacle reward or will there be an alternative reward for all of the players that have already purchased scribing in the past?
I would hope so, because otherwise that campaign will be largely useless for a large portion of the playerbase.
I'm definitely happy and excited for those getting scribing for free though!
he already addressed this on the first page of this thread.Edited by icapital on April 26, 2025 8:01PM2 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Will Gold Road owners before this change get something? because some of us bought the expansion for the scribing system.
You paid for the exclusive timing.CP2,000 Master Explorer - AvA One Star General - Console Peasant - Khajiiti Aficionado - The Clan
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✭✭✭✭✭tomofhyrule wrote: »It likely means that Gold Road will be unavailable as a "Chapter" after June 2 when Solstice drops. Normally, the old Chapter becomes DLC immediately, but that one likely won't convert right away so it may not be added to ESO+ on release.
This seems doubtful because Gold Road is part of the Premium Edition that they will be selling that includes Solstice.
It seems more likely they have separated Scribing from Gold Road. And that purchasing Gold Road will no longer grant access to Scribing during the brief period where Scribing is unavailable.1 -
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✭✭✭I suspected something like this was going to happen because on the PTS, I immediately noticed that under Achievements Scribing was moved from Gold Road into its own separate section.2 -
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✭✭✭✭DenverRalphy wrote: »Jewel Crafting should also be part of the base game. I paid full money for Gold Road because of Scribing as it main feature and now you are giving it for free after a short time (a bit more than a year) instead of Jewel Crafting which it is much older and useful content (since 2018).
Jewelry Crafting isn't considered a must have feature, because the player isn't reliant upon being able to craft their own jewelry. Jewelry can be acquired from other players.
Scribing however is player/character contained. Another player can't scribe skills for you.
So, with that logic, Warden, Necromancer, and Arcanist classes should be base game already as well...8 -
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✭✭Jewel Crafting should also be part of the base game. I paid full money for Gold Road because of Scribing as it main feature and now you are giving it for free after a short time (a bit more than a year) instead of Jewel Crafting which it is much older and useful content (since 2018).
I would have expected Jewelry crafting to be added long before scribing since scribing is only a year old.5 -
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✭✭✭I wasted good money on Gold Road for scribing which I have never used to this day. Jewelry should have been added a long time ago.7 -
SwimsWithMemes✭✭✭✭DenverRalphy wrote: »Jewel Crafting should also be part of the base game. I paid full money for Gold Road because of Scribing as it main feature and now you are giving it for free after a short time (a bit more than a year) instead of Jewel Crafting which it is much older and useful content (since 2018).
Jewelry Crafting isn't considered a must have feature, because the player isn't reliant upon being able to craft their own jewelry. Jewelry can be acquired from other players.
Scribing however is player/character contained. Another player can't scribe skills for you.
That's just incorrect, you can't make your own jewelry the right trait without jewelcrafting, because you need to research e.g. Bloodthirsty to change dropped or traded jewelry to the trait you want
Scribing is far more niche than jewel crafting.5 -
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✭✭Avran_Sylt wrote: »wolfie1.0. wrote: »Will Gold Road owners before this change get something? because some of us bought the expansion for the scribing system.
No, nothing is planned at this time. However, the Scribing Golden Pursuit is rewarding AND equally available to both those who have already invested time into Scribing, and first-time Scribers. In fact, those who have used Scribing over the last year may find some tasks faster and easier to complete.
Why hasn't jewelry crafting been made base game yet? Summerset was released quite a while ago and it's still not mainstream.
My guess is that Jewelry is something that you can still trade for, that gives meaning to purple drops and Vet Trials content.
Scribing on the other hand is account/character-specific and untradable.
The Exemplary Protective Ring/Necklace only drop from the Summerset storyline and the Psijic Order storyline respectively, I guess that's one reason to gatekeep it behind Summerset.PC-EU @maitsukas
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✭✭✭✭✭The Exemplary Protective Ring/Necklace only drop from the Summerset storyline and the Psijic Order storyline respectively, I guess that's one reason to gatekeep it behind Summerset.
Not entirely true; there are rare side quests in other DLCs that drop some pieces. EX: you can get a Protective neck piece in the Deadlands.#proud2BAStarObsessedLoony
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✭✭✭✭SwimsWithMemes wrote: »DenverRalphy wrote: »Jewel Crafting should also be part of the base game. I paid full money for Gold Road because of Scribing as it main feature and now you are giving it for free after a short time (a bit more than a year) instead of Jewel Crafting which it is much older and useful content (since 2018).
Jewelry Crafting isn't considered a must have feature, because the player isn't reliant upon being able to craft their own jewelry. Jewelry can be acquired from other players.
Scribing however is player/character contained. Another player can't scribe skills for you.
That's just incorrect, you can't make your own jewelry the right trait without jewelcrafting, because you need to research e.g. Bloodthirsty to change dropped or traded jewelry to the trait you want
Scribing is far more niche than jewel crafting.
That would only apply to Dungeon/Trial/Bound gear.
But that's the nature of how the benefits from ESO+ come into play.
Jewelry gear will continue to work if you let ESO+ lapse and don't own Summerset. Additionally, if you research those traits while it was active you can continue to Transmute/Reconstruct those traits even after you lose ESO+. With scribing you wouldn't be able to use scribed skills at all without ESO+, and thus if ESO+ lapses then the character loses their scribed skills.
With Gold Road moving into ESO+ accessibility, that issue needed to be addressed.
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✭✭✭✭DenverRalphy wrote: »SwimsWithMemes wrote: »DenverRalphy wrote: »Jewel Crafting should also be part of the base game. I paid full money for Gold Road because of Scribing as it main feature and now you are giving it for free after a short time (a bit more than a year) instead of Jewel Crafting which it is much older and useful content (since 2018).
Jewelry Crafting isn't considered a must have feature, because the player isn't reliant upon being able to craft their own jewelry. Jewelry can be acquired from other players.
Scribing however is player/character contained. Another player can't scribe skills for you.
That's just incorrect, you can't make your own jewelry the right trait without jewelcrafting, because you need to research e.g. Bloodthirsty to change dropped or traded jewelry to the trait you want
Scribing is far more niche than jewel crafting.
That would only apply to Dungeon/Trial/Bound gear.
But that's the nature of how the benefits from ESO+ come into play.
Jewelry gear will continue to work if you let ESO+ lapse and don't own Summerset. Additionally, if you research those traits while it was active you can continue to Transmute/Reconstruct those traits even after you lose ESO+. With scribing you wouldn't be able to use scribed skills at all without ESO+, and thus if ESO+ lapses then the character loses their scribed skills.
With Gold Road moving into ESO+ accessibility, that issue needed to be addressed.
I max out jewelry crafting have all my skill points in the system, lose plus and can't interact with the station anymore. Skill points are wasted after that point.
I don't see how that is much different if Scribing didn't go base game.
Look I would understand the argument for jewelry being still locked if we were back in the 2022 -2023 eso era. But at today's economy, and with reconstruction gold jewelry isn't worth all that much. It's basically a nuisance and a QOL issue for it not to be base game
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✭✭✭✭wolfie1.0. wrote: »DenverRalphy wrote: »SwimsWithMemes wrote: »DenverRalphy wrote: »Jewel Crafting should also be part of the base game. I paid full money for Gold Road because of Scribing as it main feature and now you are giving it for free after a short time (a bit more than a year) instead of Jewel Crafting which it is much older and useful content (since 2018).
Jewelry Crafting isn't considered a must have feature, because the player isn't reliant upon being able to craft their own jewelry. Jewelry can be acquired from other players.
Scribing however is player/character contained. Another player can't scribe skills for you.
That's just incorrect, you can't make your own jewelry the right trait without jewelcrafting, because you need to research e.g. Bloodthirsty to change dropped or traded jewelry to the trait you want
Scribing is far more niche than jewel crafting.
That would only apply to Dungeon/Trial/Bound gear.
But that's the nature of how the benefits from ESO+ come into play.
Jewelry gear will continue to work if you let ESO+ lapse and don't own Summerset. Additionally, if you research those traits while it was active you can continue to Transmute/Reconstruct those traits even after you lose ESO+. With scribing you wouldn't be able to use scribed skills at all without ESO+, and thus if ESO+ lapses then the character loses their scribed skills.
With Gold Road moving into ESO+ accessibility, that issue needed to be addressed.
I max out jewelry crafting have all my skill points in the system, lose plus and can't interact with the station anymore. Skill points are wasted after that point.
Correct. Lose Plus and you lose the ability to interact with the Jewelry Crafting tables. BUT your jewelry continues to work properly. And you can still transmute/reconstruct any trait you've already researched. And skillpoints can always be redistributed.
But Scribing doesn't have that luxury. Lose ESO+, and you lose access to any skills you have already scribed. That's likely why it's being made base game whereas Jewelrycraft isn't. Because losing Jewelrycraft doesn't break your character.Edited by DenverRalphy on April 27, 2025 6:50PM0 -
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✭✭✭✭DenverRalphy wrote: »wolfie1.0. wrote: »DenverRalphy wrote: »SwimsWithMemes wrote: »DenverRalphy wrote: »Jewel Crafting should also be part of the base game. I paid full money for Gold Road because of Scribing as it main feature and now you are giving it for free after a short time (a bit more than a year) instead of Jewel Crafting which it is much older and useful content (since 2018).
Jewelry Crafting isn't considered a must have feature, because the player isn't reliant upon being able to craft their own jewelry. Jewelry can be acquired from other players.
Scribing however is player/character contained. Another player can't scribe skills for you.
That's just incorrect, you can't make your own jewelry the right trait without jewelcrafting, because you need to research e.g. Bloodthirsty to change dropped or traded jewelry to the trait you want
Scribing is far more niche than jewel crafting.
That would only apply to Dungeon/Trial/Bound gear.
But that's the nature of how the benefits from ESO+ come into play.
Jewelry gear will continue to work if you let ESO+ lapse and don't own Summerset. Additionally, if you research those traits while it was active you can continue to Transmute/Reconstruct those traits even after you lose ESO+. With scribing you wouldn't be able to use scribed skills at all without ESO+, and thus if ESO+ lapses then the character loses their scribed skills.
With Gold Road moving into ESO+ accessibility, that issue needed to be addressed.
I max out jewelry crafting have all my skill points in the system, lose plus and can't interact with the station anymore. Skill points are wasted after that point.
Correct. Lose Plus and you lose the ability to interact with the Jewelry Crafting tables. BUT your jewelry continues to work properly. And you can still transmute/reconstruct any trait you've already researched. And skillpoints can always be redistributed.
But Scribing doesn't have that luxury. Lose ESO+, and you lose access to any skills you have already scribed. That's likely why it's being made base game whereas Jewelrycraft isn't. Because losing Jewelrycraft doesn't break your character.
I disagree about that. Losing scribing doesn't break your character. Scribing is good but it's not that good.
Edit: and in theory you would still keep your created skills. You just couldn't change them. But we won't know that because of the changes coming to the game. Either way jewelry crafting should be base game as well. I have yet to see a good argument is to why it can't be for such an old mechanic.Edited by wolfie1.0. on April 28, 2025 1:28AM1 -
SwimsWithMemes✭✭✭✭DenverRalphy wrote: »SwimsWithMemes wrote: »DenverRalphy wrote: »Jewel Crafting should also be part of the base game. I paid full money for Gold Road because of Scribing as it main feature and now you are giving it for free after a short time (a bit more than a year) instead of Jewel Crafting which it is much older and useful content (since 2018).
Jewelry Crafting isn't considered a must have feature, because the player isn't reliant upon being able to craft their own jewelry. Jewelry can be acquired from other players.
Scribing however is player/character contained. Another player can't scribe skills for you.
That's just incorrect, you can't make your own jewelry the right trait without jewelcrafting, because you need to research e.g. Bloodthirsty to change dropped or traded jewelry to the trait you want
Scribing is far more niche than jewel crafting.
That would only apply to Dungeon/Trial/Bound gear.
But that's the nature of how the benefits from ESO+ come into play.
Jewelry gear will continue to work if you let ESO+ lapse and don't own Summerset. Additionally, if you research those traits while it was active you can continue to Transmute/Reconstruct those traits even after you lose ESO+. With scribing you wouldn't be able to use scribed skills at all without ESO+, and thus if ESO+ lapses then the character loses their scribed skills.
With Gold Road moving into ESO+ accessibility, that issue needed to be addressed.
Your initial point was that Jewelry crafting wasn't a "must have", because other players could make it for you as required. There is a huge chunk of jewelry that cannot be made for you, and jewelry crafting is a must have for that purpose.
You don't *need* any scribed skill for any particular purpose. Your character will be worse off potentially, without scribing, but the same is true for jewel crafting.
If you mean "must have" as in "cannot use this feature properly without owning it" then I agree with you, but that's not really limited to Scribing and not an indicator of why it jumped the queue on other features.2 -
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✭✭Thank you for adding this great story and mechanic to the basegame. Discovering Ulfsild's memories and legacy is one of the most memorable questlines for me, and it's such a useful and fun system to experiment with.
I get why some people don't like that they paid for it and now it's free, but I paid for it and I'm happy that more players will be able to try it out. I hope it draws in some new players who now get more bundled with their basegame purchase.PC-NA
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✭✭✭I'm really happy this is coming to base game, it certainly feels like a base game feature. That being said, I really regret getting Gold Road at full price now. It was the only attractive feature for me that made me rush to get it.
Can we add Jewelry Crafting and Antiquities to base game as well?Edited by Destai on April 29, 2025 8:10PM8
