ZOS, Massive Spike in Ping/LAG in Recent Days - What Gives?

LadyGP · March 10

Seravi wrote: »

Kicked 11:12AM CST PC NA

Character selection screen choosing another character. 334 Error

Oof. Rough morning for you. Hopefully things settle down. I'm going to be in Cyro tonight and see how things go.

Seravi · March 10

LadyGP wrote: »

Seravi wrote: »

Kicked 11:12AM CST PC NA

Character selection screen choosing another character. 334 Error

Oof. Rough morning for you. Hopefully things settle down. I'm going to be in Cyro tonight and see how things go.

May the force be with you!!

Sure has gotten quiet on this thread. I really wish others would install the addon and keep tabs on their connections. It really helps them see where things are going wrong or not.

Let us know how it goes for you tonight!

LadyGP · March 10

Seravi wrote: »

LadyGP wrote: »

Seravi wrote: »

Kicked 11:12AM CST PC NA

Character selection screen choosing another character. 334 Error

Oof. Rough morning for you. Hopefully things settle down. I'm going to be in Cyro tonight and see how things go.

May the force be with you!! Sure has gotten quiet on this thread. I really wish others would install the addon and keep tabs on their connections. It really helps them see where things are going wrong or not.

Let us know how it goes for you tonight!

Yeah thread has died down a bit. I'm curious if that is because people aren't having as much issues or if they gave up. Hopefully the first one. Will post how it goes.

Rkindaleft · March 10

LadyGP wrote: »

Seravi wrote: »

LadyGP wrote: »

Seravi wrote: »

Kicked 11:12AM CST PC NA

Character selection screen choosing another character. 334 Error

Oof. Rough morning for you. Hopefully things settle down. I'm going to be in Cyro tonight and see how things go.

May the force be with you!! Sure has gotten quiet on this thread. I really wish others would install the addon and keep tabs on their connections. It really helps them see where things are going wrong or not.

Let us know how it goes for you tonight!

Yeah thread has died down a bit. I'm curious if that is because people aren't having as much issues or if they gave up. Hopefully the first one. Will post how it goes.

I was a fairly active poster in this thread but it feels like we've gotten to a point where we are just beating a dead horse. There's basically no new information anyone can provide that can help (especially those who did the survey.) The server gets DDOSed like every week now and complaining about it doesn't do anything and there's like 5 other threads created on the forum every time it happens. I'd also wager a significant number of people who were having frequently severe issues outside of the DDOS just stopped playing, I at least basically don't play the game at all outside of logging in a couple times a week for a single trial prog.

Calastir · March 10

LadyGP wrote: »

Seravi wrote: »

LadyGP wrote: »

Seravi wrote: »

Kicked 11:12AM CST PC NA

Character selection screen choosing another character. 334 Error

Oof. Rough morning for you. Hopefully things settle down. I'm going to be in Cyro tonight and see how things go.

May the force be with you!! Sure has gotten quiet on this thread. I really wish others would install the addon and keep tabs on their connections. It really helps them see where things are going wrong or not.

Let us know how it goes for you tonight!

Yeah thread has died down a bit. I'm curious if that is because people aren't having as much issues or if they gave up. Hopefully the first one. Will post how it goes.

For me the issues remain dismal on both servers. With nothing left to contribute but to wait for either an eventual solution or my patience to run out.

Seravi · March 10

Jestertoo wrote: »

Windows users only:

I downloaded winMTR from sourceforge, wrapped it with a couple of scripts, and uploaded it to ESOUI as an addon. It doesn't integrate with the game at all in-game, but it does make it as simple as I could to install/run.

https://www.esoui.com/downloads/info4058-WinMTRwrapperforESOconnectiondebugging.html

Here I am pinging the NA datacenter.
The number I have circled is packetloss. If this is non-zero, or more than a few packets per hour, you would change MTR over to the pinging the google IP 8.8.8.8. Packetloss to google indicates a problem with your ISP or your connection to the ISP.

CAVEAT - IGNORE ping times for all the routers inline that have really high ping times. Routers respond to ICMP packets with the lowest priority in their CPUs. If they are running heaviliy loaded, they will not respond quickly or at all to ICMP, and may be false positively reported as slow or with lots of packet loss.
see below for a good explanation of why this is the case
https://www.reddit.com/r/HomeNetworking/comments/uw6t07/can_someone_explain_how_does_the_ping_go_from/

For anyone still having issues I would suggest using this add-on if you don't want to install MTR. This info is very helpful trying to pinpoint many of our issues in this thread. I know personally a few issues I had have been fixed. They are still trying to figure out other problems but hey, it's a step in the right direction.

manukartofanu · March 10

LadyGP wrote: »

Seravi wrote: »

LadyGP wrote: »

Seravi wrote: »

Kicked 11:12AM CST PC NA

Character selection screen choosing another character. 334 Error

Oof. Rough morning for you. Hopefully things settle down. I'm going to be in Cyro tonight and see how things go.

May the force be with you!! Sure has gotten quiet on this thread. I really wish others would install the addon and keep tabs on their connections. It really helps them see where things are going wrong or not.

Let us know how it goes for you tonight!

Yeah thread has died down a bit. I'm curious if that is because people aren't having as much issues or if they gave up. Hopefully the first one. Will post how it goes.

I won't speak for everyone, but I've stopped writing because it simply makes no sense. When information about constant DDoS attacks appeared, we just returned to where we started. We are now in a position where it seems like not all of the thread's problems were attributed to DDoS, but DDoS was introduced as a variable mentioned in the end-of-year summary letter. I don't remember anything being said about solving problems with crashes beyond DDoS. Correct me if I'm wrong.

We waited a long time just for a survey describing our problems. And here's my experience: when I told my guild that there was such a survey, and that you could describe problems there, which might help the developers, I got responses that I was too naive, that it was pointless, and that they wouldn’t do anything anyway, so spending time on such a survey was just stupid. I don't know if the survey is completed, but no results have been posted here. Again, correct me if I'm wrong.

Essentially, the crashes remain. The attitude towards them has changed. I'm now with those who think that nothing will change, no matter how much we write here. I canceled my subscription and am gradually playing less and less.

Oh yes, about the ping. I've written in this thread long ago that packet loss in today's internet is normal. Network code should be written in such a way that minor packet losses are not noticeable. Some games maintain a connection even during a short-term complete loss of connection. In ESO, however, I sometimes realize that I will be disconnected within the next 30 seconds, even when there is definitely a connection, literally with a stream running. And this is not to mention that I constantly ping Google's server just to see the ping there. ESO disconnects under any conditions, even when there are no dips in internet speed or ping. I remind you, people came here with many reports and analyses about where problems begin if you trace the packet's path, not just the metrics.

SalamanNZ · March 11

I leave in NZ and my prime time is nothing compared to US prime time. I can freeze for up to 5 seconds due to lag and the rubber banding is crazy during US primetime

LadyGP · March 11

manukartofanu wrote: »

LadyGP wrote: »

Seravi wrote: »

LadyGP wrote: »

Seravi wrote: »

Kicked 11:12AM CST PC NA

Character selection screen choosing another character. 334 Error

Oof. Rough morning for you. Hopefully things settle down. I'm going to be in Cyro tonight and see how things go.

May the force be with you!! Sure has gotten quiet on this thread. I really wish others would install the addon and keep tabs on their connections. It really helps them see where things are going wrong or not.

Let us know how it goes for you tonight!

Yeah thread has died down a bit. I'm curious if that is because people aren't having as much issues or if they gave up. Hopefully the first one. Will post how it goes.

I won't speak for everyone, but I've stopped writing because it simply makes no sense. When information about constant DDoS attacks appeared, we just returned to where we started. We are now in a position where it seems like not all of the thread's problems were attributed to DDoS, but DDoS was introduced as a variable mentioned in the end-of-year summary letter. I don't remember anything being said about solving problems with crashes beyond DDoS. Correct me if I'm wrong.

We waited a long time just for a survey describing our problems. And here's my experience: when I told my guild that there was such a survey, and that you could describe problems there, which might help the developers, I got responses that I was too naive, that it was pointless, and that they wouldn’t do anything anyway, so spending time on such a survey was just stupid. I don't know if the survey is completed, but no results have been posted here. Again, correct me if I'm wrong.

Essentially, the crashes remain. The attitude towards them has changed. I'm now with those who think that nothing will change, no matter how much we write here. I canceled my subscription and am gradually playing less and less.

Oh yes, about the ping. I've written in this thread long ago that packet loss in today's internet is normal. Network code should be written in such a way that minor packet losses are not noticeable. Some games maintain a connection even during a short-term complete loss of connection. In ESO, however, I sometimes realize that I will be disconnected within the next 30 seconds, even when there is definitely a connection, literally with a stream running. And this is not to mention that I constantly ping Google's server just to see the ping there. ESO disconnects under any conditions, even when there are no dips in internet speed or ping. I remind you, people came here with many reports and analyses about where problems begin if you trace the packet's path, not just the metrics.

I hear you. I too have run into similar situations when posting the survey in guilds. Im in two discords with an insane amount of people and virtually every comment I got was something like, "it is pointless", "why do you still have hope", "5 years to late", etc.

It's disappointing. I will say there has been a very clear shift in communication/soliciting feedback since the start of the year. U45 just hit so hopefully now they can shift into their seasons and begin working on these things. It makes no sense for them to go through all this effort with surveys, topics for feedback, etc, only to do nothing with it so I have faith they will make some improvements. Will it be enough to bring back some of the core people who left over the last year or two - probably not - but I hope I'm proven wrong.

To your last point - I too run into ESO just being like "byeeeee" for no reason. ESO is the only game I play where it absolutley can not handle a single dip in connection or else you're SOL. It's odd... I will play other FPS games and have zero rubber banding while simultaniously having packetloss. There is just something about this game where it can't handle packetloss at all - which to your point is kind of impossible to avoid (generally speaking anyways).

Edit - Can't handle packetloss at all isn't the right way to say it. It can handle it... you just get rubberbanded when it happens.

Sluggy · March 11

LadyGP wrote: »

Yeah thread has died down a bit. I'm curious if that is because people aren't having as much issues or if they gave up. Hopefully the first one. Will post how it goes.

I keep tabs on this post but usually only post when it gets obscenely bad - like today!

Things really haven't changed much. Some days the game runs just fine and I can happily play unimpeded. Other days it's a real struggle. I started playing again a couple weeks before Midyear Mayhem and everything seemed pretty great most nights! But by about the second week of the event everything felt like it took a severe nosedive like literally overnight. Last night and today have been especially bad for me.

These last two days I can barely tell what the hell is even happening due to the amount my client desyncs from the server. I have no idea if my skills are firing or not, I have no idea if my opponents are attacking or defending, I often try to help allies only to see them rubberband back tweenty feet and suddenly unalive. I've kind of just given up pretty much anything that doesn't involve at least twenty other people and siege because I actually feel completely useless in a fight right now.

LadyGP · March 11

Sluggy wrote: »

LadyGP wrote: »

Yeah thread has died down a bit. I'm curious if that is because people aren't having as much issues or if they gave up. Hopefully the first one. Will post how it goes.

I keep tabs on this post but usually only post when it gets obscenely bad - like today!

Things really haven't changed much. Some days the game runs just fine and I can happily play unimpeded. Other days it's a real struggle. I started playing again a couple weeks before Midyear Mayhem and everything seemed pretty great most nights! But by about the second week of the event everything felt like it took a severe nosedive like literally overnight. Last night and today have been especially bad for me.

These last two days I can barely tell what the hell is even happening due to the amount my client desyncs from the server. I have no idea if my skills are firing or not, I have no idea if my opponents are attacking or defending, I often try to help allies only to see them rubberband back tweenty feet and suddenly unalive. I've kind of just given up pretty much anything that doesn't involve at least twenty other people and siege because I actually feel completely useless in a fight right now.

Wasn't able to log on yesterday (IRL) to see what my experience is like but hopefully things settle down a bit now that U45 has landed.

Seravi · March 11

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GoAvs34 · March 11

Server is eating commands like crazy today

. Hopefully the survey got them enough information to work on. Almost everyone I talked to said they had every single problem on the survey though so... maybe that isn't super helpful lol.

I play much less than I used to and have certainly stopped expecting things to get totally fixed. Here's hoping they can get ahead of the problems a bit and swing back towards slightly better performance rather than slow degradation of performance for me

meekmiko · March 11

LadyGP wrote: »

Sluggy wrote: »

LadyGP wrote: »

Yeah thread has died down a bit. I'm curious if that is because people aren't having as much issues or if they gave up. Hopefully the first one. Will post how it goes.

I keep tabs on this post but usually only post when it gets obscenely bad - like today!

Things really haven't changed much. Some days the game runs just fine and I can happily play unimpeded. Other days it's a real struggle. I started playing again a couple weeks before Midyear Mayhem and everything seemed pretty great most nights! But by about the second week of the event everything felt like it took a severe nosedive like literally overnight. Last night and today have been especially bad for me.

These last two days I can barely tell what the hell is even happening due to the amount my client desyncs from the server. I have no idea if my skills are firing or not, I have no idea if my opponents are attacking or defending, I often try to help allies only to see them rubberband back tweenty feet and suddenly unalive. I've kind of just given up pretty much anything that doesn't involve at least twenty other people and siege because I actually feel completely useless in a fight right now.

Wasn't able to log on yesterday (IRL) to see what my experience is like but hopefully things settle down a bit now that U45 has landed.

Not any better for me after the update. Same latency spikes, abilities not going off, and pauses during combat causing rubberbanding.

Edited to add: Honestly it's kinda worse than it was before the update. 🙁

LadyGP · March 12

meekmiko wrote: »

LadyGP wrote: »

Sluggy wrote: »

LadyGP wrote: »

Yeah thread has died down a bit. I'm curious if that is because people aren't having as much issues or if they gave up. Hopefully the first one. Will post how it goes.

I keep tabs on this post but usually only post when it gets obscenely bad - like today!

Things really haven't changed much. Some days the game runs just fine and I can happily play unimpeded. Other days it's a real struggle. I started playing again a couple weeks before Midyear Mayhem and everything seemed pretty great most nights! But by about the second week of the event everything felt like it took a severe nosedive like literally overnight. Last night and today have been especially bad for me.

These last two days I can barely tell what the hell is even happening due to the amount my client desyncs from the server. I have no idea if my skills are firing or not, I have no idea if my opponents are attacking or defending, I often try to help allies only to see them rubberband back tweenty feet and suddenly unalive. I've kind of just given up pretty much anything that doesn't involve at least twenty other people and siege because I actually feel completely useless in a fight right now.

Wasn't able to log on yesterday (IRL) to see what my experience is like but hopefully things settle down a bit now that U45 has landed.

Not any better for me after the update. Same latency spikes, abilities not going off, and pauses during combat causing rubberbanding.

Edited to add: Honestly it's kinda worse than it was before the update. 🙁

Are you disconnecting more or just more of the skills not firing and spikes?

meekmiko · March 12

LadyGP wrote: »

meekmiko wrote: »

LadyGP wrote: »

Sluggy wrote: »

LadyGP wrote: »

Yeah thread has died down a bit. I'm curious if that is because people aren't having as much issues or if they gave up. Hopefully the first one. Will post how it goes.

I keep tabs on this post but usually only post when it gets obscenely bad - like today!

Things really haven't changed much. Some days the game runs just fine and I can happily play unimpeded. Other days it's a real struggle. I started playing again a couple weeks before Midyear Mayhem and everything seemed pretty great most nights! But by about the second week of the event everything felt like it took a severe nosedive like literally overnight. Last night and today have been especially bad for me.

These last two days I can barely tell what the hell is even happening due to the amount my client desyncs from the server. I have no idea if my skills are firing or not, I have no idea if my opponents are attacking or defending, I often try to help allies only to see them rubberband back tweenty feet and suddenly unalive. I've kind of just given up pretty much anything that doesn't involve at least twenty other people and siege because I actually feel completely useless in a fight right now.

Wasn't able to log on yesterday (IRL) to see what my experience is like but hopefully things settle down a bit now that U45 has landed.

Not any better for me after the update. Same latency spikes, abilities not going off, and pauses during combat causing rubberbanding.

Edited to add: Honestly it's kinda worse than it was before the update. 🙁

Are you disconnecting more or just more of the skills not firing and spikes?

Disconnected once earlier and then the rest of the time skills not firing and spikes.

Jestertoo · March 12

latency spikes, skills not firing, all sounds like ping loss.

Run MTR or pingplotter while you are playing.

LadyGP · March 12

meekmiko wrote: »

LadyGP wrote: »

meekmiko wrote: »

LadyGP wrote: »

Sluggy wrote: »

LadyGP wrote: »

Yeah thread has died down a bit. I'm curious if that is because people aren't having as much issues or if they gave up. Hopefully the first one. Will post how it goes.

I keep tabs on this post but usually only post when it gets obscenely bad - like today!

Things really haven't changed much. Some days the game runs just fine and I can happily play unimpeded. Other days it's a real struggle. I started playing again a couple weeks before Midyear Mayhem and everything seemed pretty great most nights! But by about the second week of the event everything felt like it took a severe nosedive like literally overnight. Last night and today have been especially bad for me.

These last two days I can barely tell what the hell is even happening due to the amount my client desyncs from the server. I have no idea if my skills are firing or not, I have no idea if my opponents are attacking or defending, I often try to help allies only to see them rubberband back tweenty feet and suddenly unalive. I've kind of just given up pretty much anything that doesn't involve at least twenty other people and siege because I actually feel completely useless in a fight right now.

Wasn't able to log on yesterday (IRL) to see what my experience is like but hopefully things settle down a bit now that U45 has landed.

Not any better for me after the update. Same latency spikes, abilities not going off, and pauses during combat causing rubberbanding.

Edited to add: Honestly it's kinda worse than it was before the update. 🙁

Are you disconnecting more or just more of the skills not firing and spikes?

Disconnected once earlier and then the rest of the time skills not firing and spikes.

Yeah, I'd be curious to see what your packetloss is looking like.

Messi · March 12

Anytime ZOS activates their protection thing to prevent attack from bad actors there seems to be an absurd amount of latency for literal days.
For example 6th of March (Thursday) they announced that they were activating this protection thing to prevent bad actors and today is a Wednesday 3/12 and I am still getting ridiculous spikes. And no, it has nothing to do with my internet speed. I have played this game for 4 years and had no issues what so ever until the last couple months. Raiding has become almost impossible.
Is this the new norm? Should I just spend weeks upon weeks lagging my brains out? Maybe at this point I should just learn my lesson.

Tandor · March 12

Messi wrote: »

Anytime ZOS activates their protection thing to prevent attack from bad actors there seems to be an absurd amount of latency for literal days.
For example 6th of March (Thursday) they announced that they were activating this protection thing to prevent bad actors and today is a Wednesday 3/12 and I am still getting ridiculous spikes. And no, it has nothing to do with my internet speed. I have played this game for 4 years and had no issues what so ever until the last couple months. Raiding has become almost impossible.
Is this the new norm? Should I just spend weeks upon weeks lagging my brains out? Maybe at this point I should just learn my lesson.

And yet every time an attack causes an absurd amount of latency it only affects certain players, seemingly the same players each time, almost certainly a comparatively small number of players, while everyone else carries on with flawless (or for some at least adequate) performance as usual. It's a very strange situation so I'm not surprised it is proving so difficult to pin down.

LadyGP · March 12

Tandor wrote: »

Messi wrote: »

Anytime ZOS activates their protection thing to prevent attack from bad actors there seems to be an absurd amount of latency for literal days.
For example 6th of March (Thursday) they announced that they were activating this protection thing to prevent bad actors and today is a Wednesday 3/12 and I am still getting ridiculous spikes. And no, it has nothing to do with my internet speed. I have played this game for 4 years and had no issues what so ever until the last couple months. Raiding has become almost impossible.
Is this the new norm? Should I just spend weeks upon weeks lagging my brains out? Maybe at this point I should just learn my lesson.

And yet every time an attack causes an absurd amount of latency it only affects certain players, seemingly the same players each time, almost certainly a comparatively small number of players, while everyone else carries on with flawless (or for some at least adequate) performance as usual. It's a very strange situation so I'm not surprised it is proving so difficult to pin down.

So I know for me when Akamai is turned on my isp all of a sudden sends my route to ATL, JAX, MIA, then to the data center. When it isn't on I only have one hop (my major city) then goes to DC.

I'd guess Akamai effects ISPs different for some reason and that is why we are seeing a small subset of us get these issues when mitigations turned on. What can be done about it? I have no idea.

LadyGP · March 12

Messi wrote: »

Anytime ZOS activates their protection thing to prevent attack from bad actors there seems to be an absurd amount of latency for literal days.
For example 6th of March (Thursday) they announced that they were activating this protection thing to prevent bad actors and today is a Wednesday 3/12 and I am still getting ridiculous spikes. And no, it has nothing to do with my internet speed. I have played this game for 4 years and had no issues what so ever until the last couple months. Raiding has become almost impossible.
Is this the new norm? Should I just spend weeks upon weeks lagging my brains out? Maybe at this point I should just learn my lesson.

Did you try this? I'd be curious to see what the results are. https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/8277376/#Comment_8277376

baconaura · March 13

constantly getting disconnected from the game servers doing the new dungeons. sorta frustrating.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1l5c2uS6uzimSLMb0cgmhA6tgzlcRezGA/view?usp=sharing

LPapirius · March 13

LadyGP wrote: »

Seravi wrote: »

LadyGP wrote: »

Seravi wrote: »

Kicked 11:12AM CST PC NA

Character selection screen choosing another character. 334 Error

Oof. Rough morning for you. Hopefully things settle down. I'm going to be in Cyro tonight and see how things go.

May the force be with you!! Sure has gotten quiet on this thread. I really wish others would install the addon and keep tabs on their connections. It really helps them see where things are going wrong or not.

Let us know how it goes for you tonight!

Yeah thread has died down a bit. I'm curious if that is because people aren't having as much issues or if they gave up. Hopefully the first one. Will post how it goes.

Eventually people get tired of trying to reason with a fence post.

The issues still persist. But most have given up and left the game already I think. At least that's what's happened to nearly 100% of those on my friends list.

LadyGP · March 13

baconaura wrote: »

constantly getting disconnected from the game servers doing the new dungeons. sorta frustrating.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1l5c2uS6uzimSLMb0cgmhA6tgzlcRezGA/view?usp=sharing

This to me screams of packetloss. Can I make a suggestion - it's frustrating I know - but when you notice everything stops moving you need to STOP moving and STOP casting. I don't know the technicals behind it but to me I noticed when the game stops I need to stop sending comands to the server. If I overload the flow while the client isn't talking with the server that is when I get kicked.

Take yo hands off the MK/Controller and wait. Once things catch up then go back to what you were doing.

Again, I know it's annoying... but what is more annoying is getting kicked.

Sidonius · March 13

Wait.. you can actually log into the game, must be good!

baconaura · March 13

LadyGP wrote: »

baconaura wrote: »

constantly getting disconnected from the game servers doing the new dungeons. sorta frustrating.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1l5c2uS6uzimSLMb0cgmhA6tgzlcRezGA/view?usp=sharing

This to me screams of packetloss. Can I make a suggestion - it's frustrating I know - but when you notice everything stops moving you need to STOP moving and STOP casting. I don't know the technicals behind it but to me I noticed when the game stops I need to stop sending comands to the server. If I overload the flow while the client isn't talking with the server that is when I get kicked.

Take yo hands off the MK/Controller and wait. Once things catch up then go back to what you were doing.

Again, I know it's annoying... but what is more annoying is getting kicked.

yeah, sometimes it recovers into rubberbanding, or it doesn't recover at all, and its just a disconnect. But this is still leading back to the issues that has been discussed on this thread over and over for months.

I'm sure a lot of people stopped posting because we've been posting stuff for months, but no change in outcome, so gave up. i was gonna give up posting in this thread, since I don't think its gonna change anything even if I post video of lag/rubberbanding and disconnects coming out of no where. but just to keep it going posted the most recent disconnect for myself.

LadyGP · March 13

baconaura wrote: »

LadyGP wrote: »

baconaura wrote: »

constantly getting disconnected from the game servers doing the new dungeons. sorta frustrating.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1l5c2uS6uzimSLMb0cgmhA6tgzlcRezGA/view?usp=sharing

This to me screams of packetloss. Can I make a suggestion - it's frustrating I know - but when you notice everything stops moving you need to STOP moving and STOP casting. I don't know the technicals behind it but to me I noticed when the game stops I need to stop sending comands to the server. If I overload the flow while the client isn't talking with the server that is when I get kicked.

Take yo hands off the MK/Controller and wait. Once things catch up then go back to what you were doing.

Again, I know it's annoying... but what is more annoying is getting kicked.

yeah, sometimes it recovers into rubberbanding, or it doesn't recover at all, and its just a disconnect.

I'm sure a lot of people stopped posting because we've been posting stuff for months, but no change in outcome, so gave up. i was gonna give up posting in this thread, since I don't think its gonna change anything even if I post video of lag/rubberbanding and disconnects coming out of no where. but just to keep it going posted the most recent disconnect for myself.

I promise you people are working on it and things are happening. They did the PTS test just a few weeks back. It just takes time to get things into the backlog and into the sprint cycle. I have no idea how ZoS does their sprints but at a minimum they are 2 week sprints - most companies do 1 month sprints. So that means when they do the test... figure out what an issue is.. it will take 2 weeks to 1 month before they can even get it into the sprint and start working it.

Everyone wants stuff fixed now (shoot I've been dealing with this issue for almost a year now) but it's very reassuring to see the dramatic change in communication, answering questions, expanding on the "why" of things, ZoS thought process for some things, soliciting feedback, etc. It was never that ZoS didn't want to fix things, no one intentionally writes poor code, but when you've got a very tight content release schedule theres almost no time to investigate, test, and fix things. With their new seasons... now they have breathing room.

That is why I think "this time is different".

blktauna · March 14

While I appreciate the positivity, this has been complained about for years now. Years. My patience has grown as thin as the excuses.

LadyGP · March 14

blktauna wrote: »

While I appreciate the positivity, this has been complained about for years now. Years. My patience has grown as thin as the excuses.

Those are valid feelings. I get it.