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  • Djennku
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    Can you be a little more specific? Where actually is it? Can’t find any of it in the hideout. I’m only missing one page but didn’t see any lore laid out there.

    Probably because you are on the live servers, not the PTS, which I did state in the initial post.
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  • birdmann1230
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    Djennku wrote: »

    Probably because you are on the live servers, not the PTS, which I did state in the initial post.

    My apologizes I missed that.
  • mariliaribas
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    Anything on the pts about a fixed location for elusive manuscripts?
  • fall0athboy
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    Djennku wrote: »
    CAN CONFIRM: all Tanlorin's quest books are available in the Malabal Tor hideout post quest update 45.

    EDIT: Looks like all of Zerith-Var's stuff is available too in the area you first meet him in reaper's march.

    EDIT2; Letter from Aradros, Yffre's Hymn, and Kathstn's Translation Second Stanza are still bugged.

    Oh that's amazing!
  • fall0athboy
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    Is there anyone who hasn't done the Akacirn the Deathless quest that'd be willing to let me tag along so I could grab that book (Cipher Akacirn's Journal)?
  • Djennku
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    Is there anyone who hasn't done the Akacirn the Deathless quest that'd be willing to let me tag along so I could grab that book (Cipher Akacirn's Journal)?

    Server and platform?
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  • fall0athboy
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    Djennku wrote: »

    Server and platform?

    PC NA

    MST time zone.
    Edited by fall0athboy on January 19, 2025 5:52AM
  • Djennku
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    PC NA

    MST time zone.

    Mail me @Djennku with the time(s) you'll be online tomorrow and I'll get that sorted for you ^^
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  • Dragonnord
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    Djennku wrote: »
    EDIT2; Letter from Aradros, Yffre's Hymn, and Kathstn's Translation Second Stanza are still bugged.

    Really? Incredible.

    [snip]

    I mean, there is no way they don't know they are bugged. In fact, they fixed books that got bugged after the 3 mentioned above, but those 3 are still not fixed.

    Those 3 books have been bugged for a long time now, reported hundred of times.

    How difficult is to put a copy on a bench, just like they did with a lot of other books? 

    [snip]
    [edited for conspiracy theory]
    Edited by ZOS_Icy on January 20, 2025 3:32PM
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  • Dragonnord
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    @ZOS_Kevin Can you please confirm why you are not fixing the books that you know are bugged like Letter from Aradros, Yffre's Hymn, and Kathstn's Translation Second Stanza?

    You keep fixing books that came after these 3 books and these are still bugged.

    Why? Why these 3 books in particular are not being fixed?

    I doubt you will respond as you never respond in this thread, but I ask anyways.
     
    Edited by Dragonnord on January 31, 2025 10:31AM
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  • MreeBiPolar
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    Dragonnord wrote: »
    How difficult is to put a copy on a bench, just like they did with a lot of other books?

    Not difficult AT ALL.

    ... On one condition. When that is the ONLY thing you have to do. No other bugs, no other dev tasks, nothing.
  • fall0athboy
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    10.3.1, nothing new for us.
  • GeneralEU
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    @Djennku You are NA, yes?

    Can you check on PTS if there are these books in Eidetic Memory?

    Thibeaut's Cairn Temporal Tome
    Shroud Hearth Barrow Temporal Tome
    Cryot of the Exiles Mage Tome
    Edited by GeneralEU on January 21, 2025 7:58PM
  • fall0athboy
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    GeneralEU wrote: »
    @Djennku You are NA, yes?

    Can you check on PTS if there are these books in Eidetic Memory?

    Thibeaut's Cairn Temporal Tome
    Shroud Hearth Barrow Temporal Tome
    Cryot of the Exiles Mage Tome

    They added new ones? What are they about?
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    ... On one condition. When that is the ONLY thing you have to do. No other bugs, no other dev tasks, nothing.

    If it's that, how do you explain other books, that got bugged AFTER these 3, got fixed and these 3 books not yet, even when reported dozens and dozens of times? ;)
     
    Edited by Dragonnord on January 22, 2025 10:43AM
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  • MreeBiPolar
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    Dragonnord wrote: »

    If it's that, how do you explain other books, that got bugged AFTER these 3, got fixed and these 3 books not yet, even when reported dozens and dozens of times? ;)
     

    Easy. Exactly because they are not the ONLY thing to implement, and for whatever reason, e.g., they were in the zones/quests affected by other dev tasks, got resources assigned. I guess you have never been anywhere close to software development, or seen a task tracker, but for a person working with it for a few decades, it is pretty obvious.
  • mariliaribas
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    GeneralEU wrote: »
    @Djennku You are NA, yes?

    Can you check on PTS if there are these books in Eidetic Memory?

    Thibeaut's Cairn Temporal Tome
    Shroud Hearth Barrow Temporal Tome
    Cryot of the Exiles Mage Tome

    Since none of the Temporal Tomes have fixed locations and disappear after you read them for the first time, might be worth it to check all of them under Elusive Manuscripts. I don't know if the devs track this thread so it might help to open an ingame bug report about it
    Edited by mariliaribas on January 22, 2025 6:16PM
  • GeneralEU
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    Since none of the Temporal Tomes have fixed locations and disappear after you read them for the first time, might be worth it to check all of them under Elusive Manuscripts. I don't know if the devs track this thread so it might help to open an ingame bug report about it

    I'm an EU player, and so I basically ask anyone from NA with this thing, because I get the impression that reported broken books from PTS are more willing to fix than on LIVE.

    I can't remember which prologue, but if you didn't read the note from the crown store quest you picked up or were taking a quest from the world, you had a bugged note, but after reporting it on the next PTS it was already fixed.

    However, it is annoying that after YEARS ‘Summerset I'm looking at you’ is only recently fixed or not fixed at all and people report broken books again and again ;/.

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    Or worse they add new broken books like the one from Wrothgar -,-.

    Eidetic Memory account-wide!
  • Dragonnord
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    Easy. Exactly because they are not the ONLY thing to implement, and for whatever reason, e.g., they were in the zones/quests affected by other dev tasks, got resources assigned. I guess you have never been anywhere close to software development, or seen a task tracker, but for a person working with it for a few decades, it is pretty obvious.

    Right. It takes 5 minutes to resolve but it has to be from the same area or from an area assigned to a dev task? Come on.

    If you see the patch notes, there are things being fixed constantly, from the very last added corner of Tamriel to the very first zones, but no, these 3 books are ALWAYS outside the working areas. Right?

    All type of work and fixes can be assigned all over Tamriel zones, but these 3 books no. They are special and need a special time and date to be assigned to be fixed.

    From last patch notes:

    - Fixed more people, cats, rats, books, guars, resource nodes, etc. that are floating, buried, or clipping.
    - Fixed another batch of typos in books, journal text, and dialogue.

    It seems those typos were lucky as they were assigned to a dev task.
     
    Edited by Dragonnord on January 22, 2025 7:44PM
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  • Djennku
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    GeneralEU wrote: »
    @Djennku You are NA, yes?

    Can you check on PTS if there are these books in Eidetic Memory?

    Thibeaut's Cairn Temporal Tome
    Shroud Hearth Barrow Temporal Tome
    Cryot of the Exiles Mage Tome

    No, the books do not have EM entries, and do disappear once read. I's refrain from learning them until that gets fixed, and yes, I did report it.
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  • GeneralEU
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    Djennku wrote: »

    No, the books do not have EM entries, and do disappear once read. I's refrain from learning them until that gets fixed, and yes, I did report it.

    Okay so next bugged books ;/
  • MreeBiPolar
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    Dragonnord wrote: »
    It seems those typos were lucky as they were assigned to a dev task.
    Not exactly. That's part of what I am trying to tell you. Those 3 books are a few of at least three dozens bugged *books* and likely a few THOUSANDS bugged other items. And that's not counting NOT BUG dev tasks.

    Now let's take your example. Floating objects and typos. Those require one adjustment only -- either fixing the existing text or moving an existing single static object position. No dependencies. ... And yet we saw how even that could backfire, with one rock template change resulting in a blocked corridor in the Vile Manse (thankfully, it's a circular corridor, so still accessible).

    A bit more complex task is *adding* a static object. In part, because there needs to be a decision where to add it and all that.

    Adding the post-quest book locations has all that, plus implementing condition checks, which is MUCH more complex, as it's not just a design task (placing an object) but also requires some coding added -- with all the complexities THAT brings in.

    So those books are in the same basket with the Pale Order clue, not with the typos and floating/buried objects.
  • Dragonnord
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    Not exactly. That's part of what I am trying to tell you. Those 3 books are a few of at least three dozens bugged *books* and likely a few THOUSANDS bugged other items. And that's not counting NOT BUG dev tasks.

    Now let's take your example. Floating objects and typos. Those require one adjustment only -- either fixing the existing text or moving an existing single static object position. No dependencies. ... And yet we saw how even that could backfire, with one rock template change resulting in a blocked corridor in the Vile Manse (thankfully, it's a circular corridor, so still accessible).

    A bit more complex task is *adding* a static object. In part, because there needs to be a decision where to add it and all that.

    Adding the post-quest book locations has all that, plus implementing condition checks, which is MUCH more complex, as it's not just a design task (placing an object) but also requires some coding added -- with all the complexities THAT brings in.

    So those books are in the same basket with the Pale Order clue, not with the typos and floating/buried objects.

    So you mean because it's more complex it's like: "Oh! Too difficult. Leave it for later. Let's fix the clipping rat first and that triple "o" in "dooor"?

    Then again: "OK, we're done with all of this. What's next? Oh! This again? Too difficult. Leave it for later..."

    If that's the case, they're assigning wrong priorities, since a missing item in the game (book in this case) should be more important than a text typo or a rat clipping in the terrain.
     
    Edited by Dragonnord on January 23, 2025 10:55AM
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  • fall0athboy
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    Thanks again, Djennku, for helping with Cipher Akacirn's Journal.

  • Rishikesa108
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    Dragonnord wrote: »

    So you mean because it's more complex it's like: "Oh! Too difficult. Leave it for later. Let's fix the clipping rat first and that triple "o" in "dooor"?

    Then again: "OK, we're done with all of this. What's next? Oh! This again? Too difficult. Leave it for later..."

    If that's the case, they're assigning wrong priorities, since a missing item in the game (book in this case) should be more important than a text typo or a rat clipping in the terrain.
     

    I agree. Maybe we have to choose another thread to post in. You are right when you say that devs do not come here reading or posting something. Let's go in the PTS thread to ask for these missing books. 2 of these books are not in the game, they are more than bugged, they are simply non-existent. Let's go there to write about these books, maybe they could better read and answer something.
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  • Dragonnord
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    I agree. Maybe we have to choose another thread to post in. You are right when you say that devs do not come here reading or posting something. Let's go in the PTS thread to ask for these missing books. 2 of these books are not in the game, they are more than bugged, they are simply non-existent. Let's go there to write about these books, maybe they could better read and answer something.
    I understand your anger, I feel it too. I don't know how to make our voice heard...

    Thanks! Will do that. It's sad to read they say to have better communication but then see that they intentionally don't respond here, never. Seeing Kevin responding all type of pings in other threads and posts but never here, even when I pinged Kevin several times in this thread.
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  • Djennku
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    @Djennku, PCNA.

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  • Rishikesa108
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    I've done Nonungalo delve several times, but recently I've noticed a strange book in the boss area. It sparkles, but it is impossible to read it. What's that ?

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  • GeneralEU
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    I've done Nonungalo delve several times, but recently I've noticed a strange book in the boss area. It sparkles, but it is impossible to read it. What's that ?

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    During daily delve you can pick up.
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