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Increasing Furnishing Cap to 1,200
Mavloc
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Title sums it up.
With Manor homes offering an outdoor and indoor space, it doesn't make sense why the cap is only at 700, especially with how many more furnishings are available after 10 years now.
And Even if you want to section off only a piece of the home to use, well that too requires furnishings.
As it stands now, a lot of the player homes have huge areas of dead empty space.
It's tacky, it's bad, and it gives off an overall bad feel to the game.
If you're going to offer these large spacious homes (for real money, mind you), then let us fill them up!
With Manor homes offering an outdoor and indoor space, it doesn't make sense why the cap is only at 700, especially with how many more furnishings are available after 10 years now.
And Even if you want to section off only a piece of the home to use, well that too requires furnishings.
As it stands now, a lot of the player homes have huge areas of dead empty space.
It's tacky, it's bad, and it gives off an overall bad feel to the game.
If you're going to offer these large spacious homes (for real money, mind you), then let us fill them up!
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Necrotech_Master✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭pretty sure theres been several posts about this before, but the answer they gave us is likely wont happen for the forseeable future
most of it is due to old consoles/low spec PCs holding the game back because they are required to keep min operating specs low enough to support previous gen consoles and low spec borderline potato PCsplays PC/NA
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i have my main house (grand topal hideaway) listed in the housing tours, it has multiple target dummies, scribing altar, and grandmaster stations (in progress being filled out), as well as almost every antiquity furnishing on display to preview them
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valenwood_vegan✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Even if they can't just directly increase the max furnishing limit due to various engine / performance / technical limitations right now, there are numerous ways that this problem could be mitigated to an extent.
- Sell us more medium sized houses that can reasonably be decorated without blocking off half the house
- Increase the furnishing limit in smaller houses that are currently under the max (700) limit
- Give us a variety of new furnishings (perhaps via the lux vendor) with combinations of individual items - like a table already set with food... shelves stocked with items... multiple trees or plants together...
- Give us much larger structural furnishings, and more premade buildings like the alinor greenhouse... so we can build things using fewer slots
Perhaps the current cap could also be "raised" to some extent by combining or adjusting the different categories of furnishings. For example, I'm never using all of the slots for collectable furnishings - if some could be reassigned to traditional or special, that would at least help.
Instead zos seems happy to insist that nothing can be done and call it a day. And then they keep selling giant houses and new furnishing packs and more houseguests to cram into extremely limited slots. They could do better.
[Edit for typo].Edited by valenwood_vegan on December 5, 2024 5:33AM9 -
Mavloc✭✭✭✭Necrotech_Master wrote: »pretty sure theres been several posts about this before, but the answer they gave us is likely wont happen for the forseeable future
most of it is due to old consoles/low spec PCs holding the game back because they are required to keep min operating specs low enough to support previous gen consoles and low spec borderline potato PCs
Well since outside the home and inside the home are 2 separate instances, they should have their own furnishing cap, and it would have zero impact on processing.
I also find it hard to believe that furnishing cap would be an issue at lowest graphical settings.Edited by Mavloc on December 4, 2024 7:27PM1 -
LunaFlora✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Everyone wants it, zos cannot change it, and if they do change it it'll take an undetermined amount of years.
2 posts from ZOS that talk about it, February 2020 and May 2024 so you know this is still relevant as that's from this year.
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/658726/follow-up-q-a-from-eso-10-year-celebration-event-community-roundtable/p1
Q: Will we ever get proper guild halls in ESO?
A: We love the idea of guild halls in ESO and recognize that our community has asked for them since the game launched. We have had many internal conversations about them over the years. The current challenge is the necessary caps. Much like the item limit caps in player housing, there is also a limit to how many characters can simultaneously be in a player home (it’s 25). As with items, these caps are in place to ensure that players on lower spec machines don’t encounter significant performance issues while in player homes.
When we’ve asked ourselves in the past if a 25-person cap would feel good for a guild hall, especially if it’s a guild of 500 active players, the answer has always been no. It’s not the kind of guild hall experience we’d want to give you. So, while the idea of guild halls isn’t completely off the table, it’s important to us that we find a solution that allows us to do it right, and support the ability to have more than 25 simultaneous players in the guild hall.
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/512076/february-2020-furnishing-limit-status-update/p1
ZOS increased PC minimum software hardware requirements with update 41 to be pretty much equal to PS4 and XBOX 1.
i don't remember the last time they increased the requirements, but they dropped Windows 7 support with u41 and i believe that was part of the requirements since launch.
It could be pretty long until they increase requirements again, 5 years perhaps.miaow! i'm Luna ( she/her ).
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✭Any increase would be a boon. I'd settle for a straight 1k furnishings for manors 🙏(AD) Artim X/Xirtām/Måtrix |PC/NA| Casual staff wielding vampire sorcerer/templar/arcanistElectric-Stunhttps://media.giphy.com/media/Av0zcKH3i2BkaY1GXW/giphy.gif/https://c.tenor.com/jQHdFftrgwMAAAAC/tenor.gifElectric-Pets- Roleplay Damage Dealing Build.
- Gear: 5 Infallible Aether (All apparel light and Divines with Max Mag Enchants), 1 Slimecraw Guise for max spell critical (Divines, light, Max Mag Enchants), Maelstrom's Perfected Lightning Staff (infused/shock enchant), and Kinras's jewelry (bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant)/lightning staff (infused/flame/weapon damage enchant). 1 Mora's Whispers.
- Ability-Bar 1: Critical Surge, Boundless Storm, Mages' Wrath, Lightning Flood, Shocking Soul (Shock damage, Class Mastery Signature Script, and Empower), and Power Overload.
- Ability-Bar 2: Storm Pulsar, Streak, Shock Reach, Unstable Wall of Storms, Shocking Burst (Shock Damage, remove 1 negative effect, and interrupt) and Thunderous Rage.
Solo: Use Kinras's chest, replace Mora with Ring of the Pale Order, and use a heavy Slimcraw piece for max critical.
https://i.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExNHVjemwxZHI2ZmQ2bTg1ZG0xOTZ3b2QwajBzNGxmaHh6OXRpN3p6YSZlcD12MV9pbnRlcm5hbF9naWZfYnlfaWQmY3Q9Zw/eBgWizk5dmZRS/giphy.gifElectric-Heal- Stress free one bar pet build .
- Gear: 5 Infallible Aether (All apparel light and Divines with Max Mag Enchants. No chest piece), 1 medium Slimecraw for max spell critical (Divines, medium, Max Mag Enchants), Lightning Staff of the Sergeant (precise/shock enchant), Sergeant's chest (Divines and max magicka enchant), and Sergeant ring and necklace (bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant), Oakensoul ring (bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant)
- Ability-Bar: Daedric Prey, Summon Volatile Familiar, Bound Armaments, Unstable Wall of Storms, Summon Twilight Matriarch, and Greater storm Atronach.
https://media.giphy.com/media/5ibGIHneWS6ek/giphy.gifElectric-Ward- My Healer Build.
- Gear: 5 Spell Power Cure (All apparel light and Divines with Max Mag Enchants), 1 Slimecraw Guise for max spell critical (Divines, light, Max Mag Enchants), Maelstrom's Perfected Lightning Staff (Charged/shock enchant), and Infallible Aether jewelry (arcane with spell damage enchant)/restoration staff (Powered with absorb magicka enchant). 1 Mora's Whispers.
- Ability-Bar 1: Power Surge, Boundless Storm, Blessing of Restoration, Energy Orb, Twilight Matriarch, and Replenishing Barrier.
- Ability-Bar 2: Dark Deal, Overflowing Altar, Elemental Drain, Blockade of Storms, Twilight Matriarch, and Aggressive Horn.
https://media.giphy.com/media/Wa0TGmtDvwW3e/giphy.gifElectric-Vamp- My Meme Tank Build that uses high resistance and variety of wards.
- Gear: 5 Brands of Imperium (All body pieces except Head and Shoulders, with Divine trait, and with Prismatic Defense Enchants), full Iceheart (1 light and 1 medium. Divines and Prismatic Enchant), and Combat Physician jewelry (bloodthirsty with Prismatic Recovery Enchants), Combat Physician restoration staff (Infused with hardening enchant), and combat physician ice staff (Infused with crusher enchant).
- Ability-Bar 1: Critical Surge, Bound Aegis, Deep Thoughts, Boundless Storm, Healing Ward, and Replenishing Barrier.
- Ability-Bar 2: Silver Leash (Elemental Drain if healer isn't running it), Bound Aegis, Frost Clench, Blockade of Frost, Empowered Ward, and Temporal Guard.
https://media.giphy.com/media/ukDQiYZzRAxMZKcK86/giphy.gifDawnfang- Tanky stage 4 vampire utility focused PvP healer that can take down very inexperienced players but is primarily focused on working alongside others in an organized group, PUGs, or zergs.
- Gear: 5 Torug's Pact (medium chest and body pieces light. All Impenetrable with Prismatic Enchants). Gaze of Sithis and 1 light Mighty Chudan/Pirate Skeleton (light shoulders, and impenetrable with Prismtaic Enchants). Knight Slayer (Swift with spell damage enchant)/lightning staff (infused with oblivion enchant)/restoration staff (infused with oblivion enchant).
- Ability-Bar 1: Structured Entropy, Boundless Storm, Soul Splitting Trap, Radiating Regeneration, Healing Ward, and Life Giver.
- Ability-Bar 2: Drain Vigor (Elemental Susceptibility), Race Against Time, Rune Cage, Radiant Magelight, Regenerative Ward, and Shatter Soul.
https://media.tenor.com/ogWfvDdsqBIAAAAd/anime-black-clover.gifDuskfang- My casual one bar heavy attack Templar build that primarily utilizes Aedric Spear abilities.
- Gear: 5 Noble Duelist (Head or Shoulder and body pieces except Chest. All body pieces Divines with Max Mag Enchants), 1 light Slimecraw for max spell critical (Divines, light, Max Mag Enchant), Lightning Staff of the Sergeant (precise/shock enchant), Sergeant's chest (Divines and max magicka enchant), and Sergeant's Mail jewelry (One Ring and one Neck. Both bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant). 1 Oakensoul Ring (bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant).
- Ability-Bar 1: Puncturing Sweep, Aurora Javelin, Toppling Charge, Blazing Spear, Radiant Ward/Breath of life, and Crescent Sweep.
https://media.tenor.com/Jo8aG_ouy_oAAAAd/ac-odyssey.gifEye of the Queen- Tanky stage 4 vampire utility focused PvP healer that can take down very inexperienced players but is primarily focused on working alongside others in an organized group, PUGs, or zergs.
- Gear: 5 Torug's Pact (Heavy Chest with light Head, Waist, Hands, and Feet. All body pieces Impenetrable. Health enchant on chest/head/legs and everything else Prismatic Enchants), 1 Medium Mighty Chudan/Pirate Skeleton Shoulder (Impenetrable, Prismatic Enchant), Knight Slayer Restoration Staff (Infused/Decrease Health enchant), and Knight Slayer jewelry (One Ring and one Neck. Both Swift with spell damage enchant). 1 Oakensoul Ring (Swift with Spell Damage Enchant).
- Ability-Bar 1: Radiant Oppression, Race Against Time, Aurora Javelin, Breath of Life, Resolving Vigor, and Life Giver.
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/fd/44/1c/fd441c8242af6ec35ada94496feb0901.gifEye of the King- My casual one bar heavy attack Arcanist build that primarily utilizes Herald of the Tome abilities.
- Gear: 5 Noble Duelist (Head or Shoulder and body pieces except Chest. All body pieces Divines with Max Mag Enchants), 1 light Slimecraw for max spell critical (Divines, light, Max Mag Enchant), Lightning Staff of the Sergeant (precise/shock enchant), Sergeant's chest (Divines and max magicka enchant), and Sergeant's Mail jewelry (One Ring and one Neck. Both bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant). 1 Oakensoul Ring (bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant).
- Ability-Bar 1: Escalating Runeblades, Pragmatic Fatecarver, Cephaliarch's Flail, Rune of Displacement, Inspired Scholarship/Evolving Runemend, and The Languid Eye.
https://i.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExOTAzdjV1eTgwbDFmM3lrZmxuMXRqdDR3Y3h1ZDRpajR0M3VjZzQ3NSZlcD12MV9pbnRlcm5hbF9naWZfYnlfaWQmY3Q9Zw/zXmbOaTpbY6mA/giphy.gifPvE Starter Gear- Tanky stage 4 vampire utility focused PvP healer that can take down very inexperienced players but is primarily focused on working alongside others in an organized group, PUGs, or zergs.
- Gear: 5 Torug's Pact (Heavy Chest with light Head, Waist, Hands, and Feet. All body pieces Impenetrable. Health enchant on chest/head/legs and everything else Prismatic Enchants), 1 Medium Mighty Chudan/Pirate Skeleton Shoulder (Impenetrable, Prismatic Enchant), Knight Slayer Restoration Staff (Infused/Decrease Health enchant), and Knight Slayer jewelry (One Ring and one Neck. Both Swift with spell damage enchant). 1 Oakensoul Ring (Swift with Spell Damage Enchant).
- Ability-Bar 1: Escalating Runeblades, Race Against Time, Rune of Uncanny Adoration, Evolving Runemend, Resolving Vigor, and Life Giver.
https://media.giphy.com/media/6CovzgyTig7M4/giphy.gifRace- Gear: 5 Law of Julianos (heavy chest, gloves/belt light, and the rest can be light or 1 medium piece if you're not wearing medium anywhere else on your body. All in training if grinding for XP or divines), Armor of the Seducer or Magnus' Gift head, shoulder, and staves (light with 1 medium piece if you are not already wearing 1 medium Julianos piece. All in training or divines. The staves should be training or infused), and 3 purple Willpower Jewelry with Arcane trait (can be bought from trading guilds for relatively cheap.
- Check tamrieltradecentre.com for the best deals if you're not using a price checking addon).
https://media.giphy.com/media/sdEkeWpiaGz0A/giphy.gifMundus Stones- High elf, since you will not have issues with sustain, but other mag based races are also fine so this is more of a personal choice.
https://media.giphy.com/media/cT3wMhLGQWdKU/giphy.gifCurrent Champion Points- PvP: The Steed for speed. Gotta go fast!
- PvE Healing/Damage: The Thief for decent crit rate.
- PvE Tanking: The Lady to get close to resistance cap.
https://media.giphy.com/media/l4FGDAx6u3hthMhgI/giphy.gifFavorite Foods and Potions- DPS: Shadowstrike/ Master Gatherer, Meticulous Disassembly/Plentiful Harvest, Steed's Blessing, Sustaining Shadows, Exploiter, Weapons Expert, Fighting Finesse, Master-at-Arms, Celerity, Rejuvenation, Fortified, Boundless Vitality.
- Healer Sorc: Shadowstrike/ Master Gatherer, Meticulous Disassembly/Plentiful Harvest, Steed's Blessing, Sustaining Shadows, Enlivening Overflow, Hope Infusion, Weapon's Expert, Arcane Supremacy, Celerity, Rejuvenation, Fortified, Boundless Vitality.
- Tanky Sorc: Shadowstrike/ Master Gatherer, Meticulous Disassembly/Plentiful Harvest, Steed's Blessing, Sustaining Shadows, Ironclad, Enduring Resolve, Reinforced, Duelist's Rebuff, Bastion, Ward Master, Rejuvenation, Fortified.
- PvP Sorc: Shadowstrike/ Master Gatherer, Meticulous Disassembly/Plentiful Harvest, Steed's Blessing, Sustaining Shadows, Enlivening Overflow, Weapon's Expert, Occult Overload, Arcane Supremacy, Bastion, Rejuvenation, Fortified, Boundless Vitality.
- PvP Temp/Arcanist: Shadowstrike/ Master Gatherer, Meticulous Disassembly/Plentiful Harvest, Steed's Blessing, Sustaining Shadows, Enlivening Overflow, Weapon's Expert, From the Brink, Arcane Supremacy, Celerity, Rejuvenation, Fortified, Boundless Vitality.
https://media.giphy.com/media/3otPoTggaYFNd1FdAI/giphy.gif- Parse Food for PvE:(DPS) Ghastly Eye Bowl (increases Max Magicka by 4592 and Magicka Recovery by 459 for 2 hours).
- Gold/Purple Food for Sorc PvP and Meme Tanking:(PvP) Clockwork Citrus Filet (increases Max Health by 3326, Health Recovery by 406 [useful if stage 1 vampire], Max Magicka by 3080, and Magicka Recovery by 338 for 2 hours). Witchmother's Potent Brew (Increase Max Magicka by 2856, Max Health by 3094, and Magicka Recovery by 315 for 2 hours.
- Trash Potions when feeling cheap: Regular CP150 Essence of Magicka pots that I obtain frequently from playing the game or Crown Tri-Restoration Potion obtained from dailies.
- Crafted Potions: Essence of Spell Critical (Bugloss, Lady's Smock, and Water Hyacinth). Without magelight this is my primary means of obtaining Major Prophecy on my Sorc, which increases my Spell Critical Rating. This also heals and restores magicka. Essence of Immovability (Columbine, Corn Flower, and Wormwood). I use this in PvP, since this gives me stealth detection, knockback immunity, and restores magicka (better to use it when competent allies are nearby, since it might reveal that you are surrounded by multiple players in stealth and you will not have an emergency pot available after use). Essence of Invisibility with only 2 ingredients (Blue Entoloma, Namira's Rot, Nirnroot, or Spider Egg). I use this in PvE content that requires stealth and if I need more speed I'll use Rapid Maneuver before using the potion. Essence of Invisibility with 3 ingredients (Blessed Thistle, Blue Entoloma, and Namira's Rot). Very useful in PvP alongside the vampire Dark Stalker passive, since you'll be invisible, ignore movement speed penalty while in Crouch, and you'll have a 30% movement speed boost from Major Expedition (I always have this slotted when riding from point A to B in PvP land, since gankers are always lurking). My templar/arcanist will mostly use Essence of Health (Tri-Stat Potion) Ingredients: (Mountain Flower, Columbine, and Bugloss).
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katanagirl1✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Designing more modestly sized notable homes would be a big step in the right direction. I have had more success with notables that have smaller interiors like Stone Eagle Aerie and Potentate’s Retreat. They look more filled than my Psijic Villa, which actually has more slots filled than those.
Khajiit Stamblade main
Dark Elf Magsorc
Redguard Stamina Dragonknight
Orc Stamplar PVP
Breton Magsorc PVP
Dark Elf Magden
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Khajiit Stamina Arcanist
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✭✭✭It's not just the min operating specs preventing various limits from being increased (not just for furniture), it's also that ZOS will make less profit if limits increase.PC(Steam) / EU / play from Melbourne, Australia / avg ping 3900 -
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✭✭I would welcome all furniture limit increase! But most of all, I need the increased capacity for Special Collectibles (Mounts, Pets, Assistants, House Guests etc.)1 -
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✭✭✭It's not just the min operating specs preventing various limits from being increased (not just for furniture), it's also that ZOS will make less profit if limits increase.
Not sure this is correct.
I know personally I would be more inclined to buy Crown Store furnishings if I knew I would be able to decorate a house to look as full as I wished.
Not to mention I might even look at buying those huge Crown only houses too, unlikely but more likely than now, when I don't even bother viewing them!
So I see potential for more profit for ZoS not less!!When people say to me........
"You're going to regret that in the morning"
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✭✭freespirit wrote: »It's not just the min operating specs preventing various limits from being increased (not just for furniture), it's also that ZOS will make less profit if limits increase.
Not sure this is correct.
I know personally I would be more inclined to buy Crown Store furnishings if I knew I would be able to decorate a house to look as full as I wished.
Not to mention I might even look at buying those huge Crown only houses too, unlikely but more likely than now, when I don't even bother viewing them!
So I see potential for more profit for ZoS not less!!
Gotta agree that, at least as relates to me, their failure to address the furnishing limits represents a loss of potential profit for them. I entirely stopped buying the big crown houses (used to get one per year with a gold for crowns trade) when I realized I always have to block off significant parts of the house to decorate it the way I'd like to.
While I've finished numerous smaller homes, my three big crown houses never seem to be complete, as I always run out of slots and have to tear things out and try to rework them.
I no longer wanna spend all that money if I can't even fully make use of the space.
In fact like Freespirit, I have not even *viewed* the new crown houses in the last two years.0 -
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...how tho? If they increase furnishing limits, people would actually buy the bigger houses more often because they could actually be furnished properly. People would also buy more furniture from the CS/buy Crown Crates to get furniture. They'd get more engagement in the game by more people doing other activities that give furniture.It's not just the min operating specs preventing various limits from being increased (not just for furniture), it's also that ZOS will make less profit if limits increase.Character List [RP and PvE]:Stands-Against-Death: Argonian Magplar Healer - Crafter
Krisiel: Redguard Stamsorc DPS - Literally crazy Werewolf, no like legit insane. She nuts
Kiju Veran: Khajiit Stamblade DPS - Ex-Fighters Guild Suthay who likes to punch things, nicknamed Tinykat
Niralae Elsinal: Altmer Stamsorc DPS - Young Altmer with way too much Magicka
Sarah Lacroix: Breton Magsorc DPS - Fledgling Vampire who drinks too much water
Slondor: Nord Tankblade - TESified verson of Slenderman
Marius Vastino: Imperial <insert role here> - Sarah's apathetic sire who likes to monologue
Delthor Rellenar: Dunmer Magknight DPS - Sarah's ex who's a certified psychopath
Lirawyn Calatare: Altmer Magplar Healer - Traveling performer and bard who's 101% vanilla bean
Gondryn Beldeau: Breton Tankplar - Sarah's Mages Guild mentor and certified badass old person
Gwendolyn Jenelle: Breton Magplar Healer - Friendly healer with a coffee addiction
Soliril Larethian- Altmer Magblade DPS - Blind alchemist who uses animals to see and brews plagues in his spare time
Tevril Rallenar: Dunmer Stamcro DPS - Delthor's "special" younger brother who raises small animals as friends
Celeroth Calatare: Bosmer <insert role here> - Shapeshifting Bosmer with enough sass to fill Valenwood
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No need for instances, just line of sight, then you are inside an location nothing outside is rendered, same with outside.TX12001rwb17_ESO wrote: »Large houses need to be instanced, 700 outside and 700 inside...
Few inside locations is instanced, main is all thief guild hideouts including the main one in Hew's bane.
Some others like Orcinium palace.
Banks are not, if you get an loading screens entering an exiting an bank or other normal house like an fighter guild I say you have an hardware problem.
But I totally agree with you in dividing up player houses like cities overland solves most of the problems.
And the housing community tend to be wales, its called the true endgame for an reason 😺
Grinding just make you go in circles.
Asking ZoS for nerfs is as stupid as asking for close air support from the death star.0 -
MageCatF4F✭✭✭✭TX12001rwb17_ESO wrote: »Large houses need to be instanced, 700 outside and 700 inside...
Well, easy to agree with that.
There have been many suggestions to ZOS for different ways, along these lines, over the past 7.75 years since housing was introduced to make things better for us. Another is to allow us to redistribute how we want to spend the slots allocated to different categories of furnishings. They haven't done anything.
It's not that "they cannot do it". It doesn't violate any laws of the universe. They simply don't want to spend the "resources" to do it, namely money. They will spend resources to give us (on PC anyway) a watered down (and slightly more obnoxious) version of one part of an add-on that's been around for about 6 years. And call it a big deal. So we know where we stand.
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