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ZOS Please reinstate the 1 Perfected weapons from normal maelstrom arena
RaikaNA
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@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_Kevin
Come on guys... this is an event...Please remove the hotfix and let people get a single perfected weapon drop on normal. Why did this need an immediate emergency hotfix when there's so much other stuff that you guys can focus on?
Again this is an event..Let people who otherwise can't complete vMA (for whatever reason that might be) have an opportunity to get the perfected weapons. you showed mercy when you allowed people to farm weapons on normal so please show the same during this event.
Edited by ZOS_Suserial on January 23, 2024 7:54PM Come on guys... this is an event...Please remove the hotfix and let people get a single perfected weapon drop on normal. Why did this need an immediate emergency hotfix when there's so much other stuff that you guys can focus on?
Again this is an event..Let people who otherwise can't complete vMA (for whatever reason that might be) have an opportunity to get the perfected weapons. you showed mercy when you allowed people to farm weapons on normal so please show the same during this event.
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Galeriano✭✭✭✭✭
✭You already have additional drop in maesltrom because of the event.
If someone can't complete vMA he/she really doesn't even need that perfected weapons in the first place.
Having the option to get non perfected weapons on normal mode is enough of a "mercy" and creates healthy enviroment by giving feeling of accomplishement and beeing rewarded for hard work to those who can complete vMA.42 -
Tannus15✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭also perfected weapons give a barely noticeable benefit. the most commonly used weapons apply 1k pen on the back bar. it's not a big deal.11 -
Galeriano✭✭✭✭✭
✭also perfected weapons give a barely noticeable benefit. the most commonly used weapons apply 1k pen on the back bar. it's not a big deal.
That 1k pen is very often also completly useless. Not only all abilities dmg scales dynamically from the bar You're on not from the bar they were casted (so that additional pen will be active like 20-30% of a time and mainly for DoTs) but also in many PvE encounters it's really easy today to reach penetration cap which makes that 1k pen a dead stat.Edited by Galeriano on January 20, 2024 3:42AM1 -
spartaxoxo✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭No. I'm annoyed it ever dropped from nma in the first place. Vet weapons are, or were, a sign someone did it on vet. Let it stay that way28 -
RaikaNA✭✭✭✭✭
✭You already have additional drop in maesltrom because of the event.
If someone can't complete vMA he/she really doesn't even need that perfected weapons in the first place.
Having the option to get non perfected weapons on normal mode is enough of a "mercy" and creates healthy enviroment by giving feeling of accomplishement and beeing rewarded for hard work to those who can complete vMA.
You honestly can't say that. There are a lot of reasons why people aren't able to complete vMA.. that doesn't mean that they don't need it... If they don't need it neither does anyone else, and Zos should take away everyone's perfected weapons. I'm not trying to say that Perfected weapons should drop on normal... just that this is an event going on right now that involves in Maelstrom arena.also perfected weapons give a barely noticeable benefit. the most commonly used weapons apply 1k pen on the back bar. it's not a big deal.
Really? According to ESO logs says otherwise. People with top scores aren't using normal versions at all. Show me one top-scoring player who's using the normal version.
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Dax_Draconis✭✭✭✭spartaxoxo wrote: »No. I'm annoyed it ever dropped from nma in the first place. Vet weapons are, or were, a sign someone did it on vet. Let it stay that way
I'm annoyed my maelstrom bow is no longer a vet weapon. I did spend hours getting it on vet.4 -
RaikaNA✭✭✭✭✭
✭spartaxoxo wrote: »No. I'm annoyed it ever dropped from nma in the first place. Vet weapons are, or were, a sign someone did it on vet. Let it stay that way
I'm curious as to why you are annoyed that it dropped from nma? Did it impact you personally? How did it ruin your game experience?14 -
Tannus15✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭spartaxoxo wrote: »No. I'm annoyed it ever dropped from nma in the first place. Vet weapons are, or were, a sign someone did it on vet. Let it stay that way
I'm curious as to why you are annoyed that it dropped from nma? Did it impact you personally? How did it ruin your game experience?
pretty sure they are saying they did it on vet "back in the day" and then when they added the perf versions they haven't gone back to get a perf version.
basically they already did the work but feel cheated by their non perf drop.
fair.9 -
WitchyKiki✭✭✭✭✭spartaxoxo wrote: »No. I'm annoyed it ever dropped from nma in the first place. Vet weapons are, or were, a sign someone did it on vet. Let it stay that way
Yep, agree with this. If you can't do the content, you shouldn't get the reward. Thats the whole point!Context is for kings -Captain Gabriel Lorca17 -
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✭spartaxoxo wrote: »No. I'm annoyed it ever dropped from nma in the first place. Vet weapons are, or were, a sign someone did it on vet. Let it stay that way
I'm curious as to why you are annoyed that it dropped from nma? Did it impact you personally? How did it ruin your game experience?
Why you ask the obvious question against hypocrites?
As pointed last night to the other discussion, is frustrating to see those who cry about the Perf weapon from nMA, are exploiting Sea Serpent Coil as Vampires in PVP for very long time which actually has impact against other players.1 -
thorwyn✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Did it impact you personally? How did it ruin your game experience?
This straw man again.
No, it does not impact anyone personally. By your logic, handing out trifecta titles via daily login rewards would not impact anyone personally either. After all, those who still want to achieve the trifectas by playing the content can still do it, right?Show me one top-scoring player who's using the normal version.
There is none, because the process of becoming a top scoring player includes the ablility to beat vMA. The weapon iteself is not the reason why they are where they are.
All that being said, I could not care less about perfected weapons dropping in nMA during an event. The content is like 8 years old and at this point, it doesn't really matter anymore.Edited by thorwyn on January 20, 2024 8:15AMAnd if the dam breaks open many years too soon
And if there is no room upon the hill
And if your head explodes with dark forebodings too
I'll see you on the dark side of the moon19 -
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✭✭✭Really? You are asking to undo the fix for something broken? Lol, made my day.Never get between a cat and it's candy!
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Overland difficulty scaling is desperately needed. 9 years. 6 paid expansions. 24 DLCs. 40 game changing updates including One Tamriel, an overhaul of the game including a permanent CP160 gear cap and ridiculous power creep thereafter. I'm sick and tired of hearing about Cadwell Silver & Gold as a "you think you do but you don't" - tier deflection to any criticism regarding the lack of overland difficulty in the game. I'm bored of dungeons, I'm bored of trials; make a personal difficulty slider for overland. It's not that hard.19 -
Peppo_Lives✭✭✭zos pls re-enable triple drop so it's easier to complete stickerbook in there
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✭I'm still annoyed about the way zos handled the perfected weapons in the first place. We earned those weapons on veteran, and then they add perfected weapons but tell us to just go do it again instead of changing ours to perfected... No thanks. I haven't touched Maelstrom Arena since and nothing will change my mind.12 -
Groterdan✭✭✭Just wished they hotfixed stuff that's disadvantages to us aswel as fast as this . Kinda leaves a bad taste .8
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✭✭And this is the reason why this kind of bug should not go live in the first place. People feel entitled to it.8 -
Dragonnord✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭I'm still annoyed about the way zos handled the perfected weapons in the first place. We earned those weapons on veteran, and then they add perfected weapons but tell us to just go do it again instead of changing ours to perfected... No thanks. I haven't touched Maelstrom Arena since and nothing will change my mind.
Dude! That happened like 100 years ago.
If nowadays you can't complete Maelstrom easily (that's why I take from your words or you wouldn't be complaining) then I can assure you that you don't need the Perfected weapons for anything.
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✭✭✭✭✭That's an interesting perspective on a bugfix.. instead of being glad no one is banned for this exploit.
Not sure why anyone would need vet weapon nowadays in a first place when they're virtually the same from normal.Edited by colossalvoids on January 20, 2024 12:57PM2 -
LunaFlora✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭i get it.
but it isn't gonna happen.
it was a bug that zos fixed.miaow! i'm Luna ( she/her ).
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CoronHR✭✭✭✭✭i thought this was a bug. glad i ran nma a couple of times yesterday. now i can forget about itPC - EU - Steam client1 -
Ardriel✭✭✭✭✭[snip] Everything is made so easy anyway. It was already enough to make the Mahlstrom weapons available in normal at all. And as already mentioned, if you can't play endgame content, you don't need the perfect weapons. Apart from that, anyone can do vMA these days. With an Okensoal Sorc, it's a piece of cake. Anyone can do it. A little more effort, invest a little more time. Maybe get to grips with the game mechanics a little. I don't understand why people want everything for free. Where's the fun in that?
[edited for baiting]Edited by ZOS_Icy on January 20, 2024 6:41PM7 -
RaikaNA✭✭✭✭✭
✭spartaxoxo wrote: »No. I'm annoyed it ever dropped from nma in the first place. Vet weapons are, or were, a sign someone did it on vet. Let it stay that way
I'm curious as to why you are annoyed that it dropped from nma? Did it impact you personally? How did it ruin your game experience?
pretty sure they are saying they did it on vet "back in the day" and then when they added the perf versions they haven't gone back to get a perf version.
basically they already did the work but feel cheated by their non perf drop.
fair.
ZOS should have done the right thing by offering those who already have the weapons a special upgrade token. That's all on ZOS.10 -
RaikaNA✭✭✭✭✭
✭WitchyKiki wrote: »spartaxoxo wrote: »No. I'm annoyed it ever dropped from nma in the first place. Vet weapons are, or were, a sign someone did it on vet. Let it stay that way
Yep, agree with this. If you can't do the content, you shouldn't get the reward. Thats the whole point!
That logic is not accurate... you see ZOS allows people to provide carrying services... yes people pay other people gold to carry them through hard content that they otherwise can't do themselves like veteran trials to obtain skins and titles. This includes 4 man content like DSA and dungeons.4 -
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✭✭✭✭✭WitchyKiki wrote: »spartaxoxo wrote: »No. I'm annoyed it ever dropped from nma in the first place. Vet weapons are, or were, a sign someone did it on vet. Let it stay that way
Yep, agree with this. If you can't do the content, you shouldn't get the reward. Thats the whole point!
That logic is not accurate... you see ZOS allows people to provide carrying services... yes people pay other people gold to carry them through hard content that they otherwise can't do themselves like veteran trials to obtain skins and titles. This includes 4 man content like DSA and dungeons.
What's inaccurate about it? In one case you're literally not doing the content you're getting reward from and in the other case it's group of mercenaries doing your bidding for the gold you've decided to farm to get it.4 -
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✭colossalvoids wrote: »WitchyKiki wrote: »spartaxoxo wrote: »No. I'm annoyed it ever dropped from nma in the first place. Vet weapons are, or were, a sign someone did it on vet. Let it stay that way
Yep, agree with this. If you can't do the content, you shouldn't get the reward. Thats the whole point!
That logic is not accurate... you see ZOS allows people to provide carrying services... yes people pay other people gold to carry them through hard content that they otherwise can't do themselves like veteran trials to obtain skins and titles. This includes 4 man content like DSA and dungeons.
What's inaccurate about it? In one case you're literally not doing the content you're getting reward from and in the other case it's group of mercenaries doing your bidding for the gold you've decided to farm to get it.
The whole point about my thread is that theirs an event going on right now that involves MA... during a non event.. I agree with you in the sense that vet weapons shouldn't be dropping on normal. There should be an exception to the rules during event times.
Oh, and you are doing the content LOL just not on vet. You have to play MA and complete it for you to get the rewards.1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭It makes zero sense to expect vet rewards for non vet content even during an event.16 -
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✭✭✭✭I just can't believe this thread.
What's coming next? I completed Rockgrove normal trial without dying, so during Rockgrove zone event give me Rockgrove veteran hard modes title? Make an exception please so everyone can have it and away with the endgamers that used skill, time and effort getting it?
Edited by Dragonnord on January 20, 2024 5:26PM16 -
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✭✭✭✭✭colossalvoids wrote: »WitchyKiki wrote: »spartaxoxo wrote: »No. I'm annoyed it ever dropped from nma in the first place. Vet weapons are, or were, a sign someone did it on vet. Let it stay that way
Yep, agree with this. If you can't do the content, you shouldn't get the reward. Thats the whole point!
That logic is not accurate... you see ZOS allows people to provide carrying services... yes people pay other people gold to carry them through hard content that they otherwise can't do themselves like veteran trials to obtain skins and titles. This includes 4 man content like DSA and dungeons.
What's inaccurate about it? In one case you're literally not doing the content you're getting reward from and in the other case it's group of mercenaries doing your bidding for the gold you've decided to farm to get it.
The whole point about my thread is that theirs an event going on right now that involves MA... during a non event.. I agree with you in the sense that vet weapons shouldn't be dropping on normal. There should be an exception to the rules during event times.
Oh, and you are doing the content LOL just not on vet. You have to play MA and complete it for you to get the rewards.
You can stretch it however you want, it doesn't make vet ma rewards a normal mode reward, no matter event or not.
First time they've diminished VMA were their decision to hand out weapons on normal, it doesn't need to be even more obsolete having special "vet reward days" on top of that. There was an argument that people need vet rewards first to complete vet content, it wasn't the case in reality but zos listened and made a change. Now you don't need vet reward of that kind, as it's the same one as on vet. Even I don't need it doing trifectas etc., didn't even bothered to upgrade some of my characters with new perfected ones as it makes no difference.4 -
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✭✭✭✭✭spartaxoxo wrote: »No. I'm annoyed it ever dropped from nma in the first place. Vet weapons are, or were, a sign someone did it on vet. Let it stay that way
I'm curious as to why you are annoyed that it dropped from nma? Did it impact you personally? How did it ruin your game experience?
pretty sure they are saying they did it on vet "back in the day" and then when they added the perf versions they haven't gone back to get a perf version.
basically they already did the work but feel cheated by their non perf drop.
fair.
Half right. I have since gotten my perf drop, but the grind for it made me salty about the whole situation all over again. The only thing that allowed VMA to be fun again was going for flawless because that hadn't changed. Which I have also since got. But choosing to grind out the weapons again left a bad taste in my mouth. And now, they just handed them out again, albeit on accident.
The way they handled VMA in the past has permanently turned me off the idea of ever having perfected drop in NMA tbh. I honestly also don't see why an event would mean you don't have to do vet for gear anymore in general. Cosmetic rewards, sure. But power is something players earn and use to compete with one another. It should be a reflection of the content they can do.7
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