ZOS Please reinstate the 1 Perfected weapons from normal maelstrom arena

colossalvoids

Btw, did they removed sticker-book entries from people not having a vet clear or just left with it?

Araneae6537

How about a “press x to win”?

Seriously, the content is already made accessible through normal mode and the main reward available in the normal weapons. The perfected version is a nice extra but not game-changing perk awarded for completing it on vet and it should stay that way.

I say this as someone who has not yet done vMA and did NOT do nMA while bugged so I don’t have any of the perfected weapons yet. I did just get my long-wanted perfected Blackrose resto staff from vBRP last night with an awesome group, and that was a great feeling. It will feel good when I earn my perfected MA weapons too.

N00BxV1

Dragonnord wrote: »

N00BxV1 wrote: »

I'm still annoyed about the way zos handled the perfected weapons in the first place. We earned those weapons on veteran, and then they add perfected weapons but tell us to just go do it again instead of changing ours to perfected... No thanks. I haven't touched Maelstrom Arena since and nothing will change my mind.

Dude! That happened like 100 years ago.

If nowadays you can't complete Maelstrom easily (that's why I take from your words or you wouldn't be complaining) then I can assure you that you don't need the Perfected weapons for anything.
 

If I was able to earn these weapons back in the day then what makes you think I can't do it again... I'm not doing it again out of principle, not because I can't... The only way to get these weapons back then was to do it on veteran because the normal versions did not exist... All zos had to do when they introduced the perfected versions was to update the item id of all existing weapons... We were cheated when they made this change and it annoys me. That is all.

Dragonnord

N00BxV1 wrote: »

Dragonnord wrote: »

N00BxV1 wrote: »

I'm still annoyed about the way zos handled the perfected weapons in the first place. We earned those weapons on veteran, and then they add perfected weapons but tell us to just go do it again instead of changing ours to perfected... No thanks. I haven't touched Maelstrom Arena since and nothing will change my mind.

Dude! That happened like 100 years ago.

If nowadays you can't complete Maelstrom easily (that's why I take from your words or you wouldn't be complaining) then I can assure you that you don't need the Perfected weapons for anything.
 

If I was able to earn these weapons back in the day then what makes you think I can't do it again... I'm not doing it again out of principle, not because I can't... The only way to get these weapons back then was to do it on veteran because the normal versions did not exist... All zos had to do when they introduced the perfected versions was to update the item id of all existing weapons... We were cheated when they made this change and it annoys me. That is all.

Old case already presented, discussed and firmly stated by ZOS that things were going to be and remain as they are now. Case closed.

So move on. Didn't see you posting in the forums before this nMA bug appeared yesterday morning.

So if it's just a "It annoys me" thing as you mention above, move on. Farm vMA again. It's a walk in the park for you for sure.
 

WitchyKiki

This thread brings a lot of thoughts to mind. Its like people who "buy" runs to get their skins or whatever they want. It doesn't affect me, but players who can't beat certain content shouldn't be rewarded. Get good.

Trejgon

colossalvoids wrote: »

Btw, did they removed sticker-book entries from people not having a vet clear or just left with it?

the perfected weapons I got from yesterdays test run are still in the stickerbook. In all fairness trying to roll back stickerbook for people whom got the drops from the bug would be way more hassle than it is worth.

colossalvoids

Trejgon wrote: »

colossalvoids wrote: »

Btw, did they removed sticker-book entries from people not having a vet clear or just left with it?

the perfected weapons I got from yesterdays test run are still in the stickerbook. In all fairness trying to roll back stickerbook for people whom got the drops from the bug would be way more hassle than it is worth.

I'd agree it's not worth the time investment.

Galeriano

RaikaNA wrote: »

Galeriano wrote: »

You already have additional drop in maesltrom because of the event.

If someone can't complete vMA he/she really doesn't even need that perfected weapons in the first place.

Having the option to get non perfected weapons on normal mode is enough of a "mercy" and creates healthy enviroment by giving feeling of accomplishement and beeing rewarded for hard work to those who can complete vMA.

You honestly can't say that. There are a lot of reasons why people aren't able to complete vMA.. that doesn't mean that they don't need it... If they don't need it neither does anyone else, and Zos should take away everyone's perfected weapons. I'm not trying to say that Perfected weapons should drop on normal... just that this is an event going on right now that involves in Maelstrom arena.

Tannus15 wrote: »

also perfected weapons give a barely noticeable benefit. the most commonly used weapons apply 1k pen on the back bar. it's not a big deal.

Really? According to ESO logs says otherwise. People with top scores aren't using normal versions at all. Show me one top-scoring player who's using the normal version.

Yes I can say that. Fact that there is lot of reasons why people can't complete vMA doesn't mean perfected weapons should be given left and right. And yes someone who can't complete vMA doesn't need perfected weapons, in fact even someone who can complete vMA doesn't need perfected weapon that much but since he got it it's obvious he will be using them. it's reward for effort. If someone can't complete vMA he also can't complete any content where that small stat buff would have meaning. In reality for weapons like maesltrom destro that penetration have zero meaning even among highest tier players.

You have already improved drops in maesltrom arena due to the event Your argument that perfected weapons should drop in normal because of the event makes zero sense. It's like saying that during Whitestrake's Mayhem ZoS should make all zones open PvP because PvP event is happening anyway.

Let me get this straight. While speaking about giving perfected weapons to those who can't complete vMA You bring up people who complete hardest content in record times? You really don't see lack of logic in this? Also people with top scores use perfected versions simply because they have them. Many of them didn't even go to normal maesltrom and they just got perfected weapons straight away so why would they be using non perfected? Like seriously give me a one reason why someone who got perfected weapon would be using non perfected one even if they are both equall in strenght. You kinda see what You want to see with Your ESO logs argumentation.

boi_anachronism_

This thread is pretty wild. Ngl. Harder content = better rewards. Thats it. Its only the most optomized groups that care about this anyway since the gain is fractional. Just what. Should we get pref drops now from all events with trials too like the last rg event? I dont understand this logic. No it doesnt "effect" anyone personally but it destroys the value of doing harder content. Like why bother?

RaikaNA

Galeriano wrote: »

RaikaNA wrote: »

Galeriano wrote: »

You already have additional drop in maesltrom because of the event.

If someone can't complete vMA he/she really doesn't even need that perfected weapons in the first place.

Having the option to get non perfected weapons on normal mode is enough of a "mercy" and creates healthy enviroment by giving feeling of accomplishement and beeing rewarded for hard work to those who can complete vMA.

You honestly can't say that. There are a lot of reasons why people aren't able to complete vMA.. that doesn't mean that they don't need it... If they don't need it neither does anyone else, and Zos should take away everyone's perfected weapons. I'm not trying to say that Perfected weapons should drop on normal... just that this is an event going on right now that involves in Maelstrom arena.

Tannus15 wrote: »

also perfected weapons give a barely noticeable benefit. the most commonly used weapons apply 1k pen on the back bar. it's not a big deal.

Really? According to ESO logs says otherwise. People with top scores aren't using normal versions at all. Show me one top-scoring player who's using the normal version.

Yes I can say that. Fact that there is lot of reasons why people can't complete vMA doesn't mean perfected weapons should be given left and right. And yes someone who can't complete vMA doesn't need perfected weapons, in fact even someone who can complete vMA doesn't need perfected weapon that much but since he got it it's obvious he will be using them. it's reward for effort. If someone can't complete vMA he also can't complete any content where that small stat buff would have meaning. In reality for weapons like maesltrom destro that penetration have zero meaning even among highest tier players.

You have already improved drops in maesltrom arena due to the event Your argument that perfected weapons should drop in normal because of the event makes zero sense. It's like saying that during Whitestrake's Mayhem ZoS should make all zones open PvP because PvP event is happening anyway.

Let me get this straight. While speaking about giving perfected weapons to those who can't complete vMA You bring up people who complete hardest content in record times? You really don't see lack of logic in this? Also people with top scores use perfected versions simply because they have them. Many of them didn't even go to normal maesltrom and they just got perfected weapons straight away so why would they be using non perfected? Like seriously give me a one reason why someone who got perfected weapon would be using non perfected one even if they are both equall in strenght. You kinda see what You want to see with Your ESO logs argumentation.

Um nope.... you can't. You don't get to dictate what people select to use for their builds. Perhaps some people would want to add in an additional penetration so they need the perfected version. Again I'm not trying to say that normal maelstrom arena should be dropping veteran weapons... only on a special occasion like now... during an event which I have no problems with whatsoever. Heck... I would even encourage ZOS to perhaps make it a rare item drop in 1 of those golden boxes we get from fighting the last boss to make the event more interesting. As of now as a veteran ESO player the events are quite stale.. repeat with the same boring prizes... This was the perfect opportunity to spice things up a bit and to make the event more interesting. I would even add to the list to let people purchase VMA weapons via tickets.. 10 tickets each which I think is fair.

As for your statement about the Whitestrake's Mayhem... If only ZOS would give some LOVE to the PvP community for the next couple of years by only releasing PvP content. We haven't gotten anything in the past several years while the Pve community keeps getting new dungeons, arenas, and trials.

RaikaNA

boi_anachronism_ wrote: »

This thread is pretty wild. Ngl. Harder content = better rewards. Thats it. Its only the most optomized groups that care about this anyway since the gain is fractional. Just what. Should we get pref drops now from all events with trials too like the last rg event? I dont understand this logic. No it doesnt "effect" anyone personally but it destroys the value of doing harder content. Like why bother?

The incentive for doing harder content is knowing that you're going to be added to the leaderboard to have the opportunity to obtain prizes at the end of the week if you have a decent amount of points.

Galeriano

RaikaNA wrote: »

Galeriano wrote: »

RaikaNA wrote: »

Galeriano wrote: »

You already have additional drop in maesltrom because of the event.

If someone can't complete vMA he/she really doesn't even need that perfected weapons in the first place.

Having the option to get non perfected weapons on normal mode is enough of a "mercy" and creates healthy enviroment by giving feeling of accomplishement and beeing rewarded for hard work to those who can complete vMA.

You honestly can't say that. There are a lot of reasons why people aren't able to complete vMA.. that doesn't mean that they don't need it... If they don't need it neither does anyone else, and Zos should take away everyone's perfected weapons. I'm not trying to say that Perfected weapons should drop on normal... just that this is an event going on right now that involves in Maelstrom arena.

Tannus15 wrote: »

also perfected weapons give a barely noticeable benefit. the most commonly used weapons apply 1k pen on the back bar. it's not a big deal.

Really? According to ESO logs says otherwise. People with top scores aren't using normal versions at all. Show me one top-scoring player who's using the normal version.

Yes I can say that. Fact that there is lot of reasons why people can't complete vMA doesn't mean perfected weapons should be given left and right. And yes someone who can't complete vMA doesn't need perfected weapons, in fact even someone who can complete vMA doesn't need perfected weapon that much but since he got it it's obvious he will be using them. it's reward for effort. If someone can't complete vMA he also can't complete any content where that small stat buff would have meaning. In reality for weapons like maesltrom destro that penetration have zero meaning even among highest tier players.

You have already improved drops in maesltrom arena due to the event Your argument that perfected weapons should drop in normal because of the event makes zero sense. It's like saying that during Whitestrake's Mayhem ZoS should make all zones open PvP because PvP event is happening anyway.

Let me get this straight. While speaking about giving perfected weapons to those who can't complete vMA You bring up people who complete hardest content in record times? You really don't see lack of logic in this? Also people with top scores use perfected versions simply because they have them. Many of them didn't even go to normal maesltrom and they just got perfected weapons straight away so why would they be using non perfected? Like seriously give me a one reason why someone who got perfected weapon would be using non perfected one even if they are both equall in strenght. You kinda see what You want to see with Your ESO logs argumentation.

Um nope.... you can't. You don't get to dictate what people select to use for their builds. Perhaps some people would want to add in an additional penetration so they need the perfected version. Again I'm not trying to say that normal maelstrom arena should be dropping veteran weapons... only on a special occasion like now... during an event which I have no problems with whatsoever. Heck... I would even encourage ZOS to perhaps make it a rare item drop in 1 of those golden boxes we get from fighting the last boss to make the event more interesting. As of now as a veteran ESO player the events are quite stale.. repeat with the same boring prizes... This was the perfect opportunity to spice things up a bit and to make the event more interesting. I would even add to the list to let people purchase VMA weapons via tickets.. 10 tickets each which I think is fair.

As for your statement about the Whitestrake's Mayhem... If only ZOS would give some LOVE to the PvP community for the next couple of years by only releasing PvP content. We haven't gotten anything in the past several years while the Pve community keeps getting new dungeons, arenas, and trials.

I think You misunderstood what I wrote. I didn't dictate what people select to their builds I said that if they can't complete vMA than they don't need perfected maesltrom weapons because they will never encouter a content where having perfected weapon over non perfected will have any significant meaning. If someone want to add additional penetraction (which btw when it comes to maesltrom destro is useless in current state of the game and I explained why in one of my previous comments) than he is free to go and try to get it by doing vMA like everyone else had to.

Yes You are trying to say that normal arena should drop perfected weapons, fact that You want it to be for limited time only really doesn't make Your argument that much different. It would still diminish already not that strong meaning of perfected maesltrom weapons as being rewards for effort and hard work. If event is not interresting for You the way it is, than just don't do it, there is still plenty of people who find it interresting and there is also plenty of ways to make it interresting, other than diminishing the meaning of perfected maelstrom weapons.

You completly missed the point of my argument about Whitestrake's Mayhem.

thegreeneso

RaikaNA wrote: »

Galeriano wrote: »

RaikaNA wrote: »

Galeriano wrote: »

You already have additional drop in maesltrom because of the event.

If someone can't complete vMA he/she really doesn't even need that perfected weapons in the first place.

Having the option to get non perfected weapons on normal mode is enough of a "mercy" and creates healthy enviroment by giving feeling of accomplishement and beeing rewarded for hard work to those who can complete vMA.

You honestly can't say that. There are a lot of reasons why people aren't able to complete vMA.. that doesn't mean that they don't need it... If they don't need it neither does anyone else, and Zos should take away everyone's perfected weapons. I'm not trying to say that Perfected weapons should drop on normal... just that this is an event going on right now that involves in Maelstrom arena.

Tannus15 wrote: »

also perfected weapons give a barely noticeable benefit. the most commonly used weapons apply 1k pen on the back bar. it's not a big deal.

Really? According to ESO logs says otherwise. People with top scores aren't using normal versions at all. Show me one top-scoring player who's using the normal version.

Yes I can say that. Fact that there is lot of reasons why people can't complete vMA doesn't mean perfected weapons should be given left and right. And yes someone who can't complete vMA doesn't need perfected weapons, in fact even someone who can complete vMA doesn't need perfected weapon that much but since he got it it's obvious he will be using them. it's reward for effort. If someone can't complete vMA he also can't complete any content where that small stat buff would have meaning. In reality for weapons like maesltrom destro that penetration have zero meaning even among highest tier players.

You have already improved drops in maesltrom arena due to the event Your argument that perfected weapons should drop in normal because of the event makes zero sense. It's like saying that during Whitestrake's Mayhem ZoS should make all zones open PvP because PvP event is happening anyway.

Let me get this straight. While speaking about giving perfected weapons to those who can't complete vMA You bring up people who complete hardest content in record times? You really don't see lack of logic in this? Also people with top scores use perfected versions simply because they have them. Many of them didn't even go to normal maesltrom and they just got perfected weapons straight away so why would they be using non perfected? Like seriously give me a one reason why someone who got perfected weapon would be using non perfected one even if they are both equall in strenght. You kinda see what You want to see with Your ESO logs argumentation.

Um nope.... you can't. You don't get to dictate what people select to use for their builds. Perhaps some people would want to add in an additional penetration so they need the perfected version.

Then these people can do vMA as the devs intended. And ZOS can very much dictate what people select to use for their builds by choosing how items are obtained. Harder content drops better gear, and if you can't clear it you don't get the gear.

But I really don't get why this bothers you at all. Perfected gear barely makes a difference, even more so if you can't clear vMA.

Rkindaleft

RaikaNA wrote: »

Galeriano wrote: »

You already have additional drop in maesltrom because of the event.

If someone can't complete vMA he/she really doesn't even need that perfected weapons in the first place.

Having the option to get non perfected weapons on normal mode is enough of a "mercy" and creates healthy enviroment by giving feeling of accomplishement and beeing rewarded for hard work to those who can complete vMA.

You honestly can't say that. There are a lot of reasons why people aren't able to complete vMA.. that doesn't mean that they don't need it... If they don't need it neither does anyone else, and Zos should take away everyone's perfected weapons. I'm not trying to say that Perfected weapons should drop on normal... just that this is an event going on right now that involves in Maelstrom arena.

Tannus15 wrote: »

also perfected weapons give a barely noticeable benefit. the most commonly used weapons apply 1k pen on the back bar. it's not a big deal.

Really? According to ESO logs says otherwise. People with top scores aren't using normal versions at all. Show me one top-scoring player who's using the normal version.

Maybe but the bonus from perfected weapons is so small that you won't even notice any increase. The only ones that might be are things like Master Daggers on the frontbar. Nobody cares about a penetration debuff on the backbar only from the Maelstrom Staff, in optimized groups or parsing you're already at the cap so it will give literally zero extra damage. In unoptimized groups it's a backbar bonus only so again you're unlikely going to notice any difference at all.

And I agree if a person cannot complete vMA then there is absolutely no need for them to obtain these weapons. They're nowhere near the level that the 0.01% better performance of 3 or 4 of these perfected weapons have will make any difference. If they removed all the perfected weapons those WR scores would be basically the same. They're going to use them if they got them.

I will say that when they reworked the system and added perfected versions of arena weapons their inclusion didn't make much sense, but if you do it on normal you should get the normal version. If you do it on veteran you should get the veteran version.

OtarTheMad

I get what the OP is saying and doesn’t hurt to ask ZOS but I mean I don’t think it matters either way.

I think the Perfected drops should remain in vet mode only but if ZOS would have made them available for say like the first day (on purpose) of the event I wouldn’t have blinked at it.

I am glad that the people who do vet modes have a reward to themselves like Perfected weapons but I don’t think they are the difference in clearing content or not.

Galeriano

RaikaNA wrote: »

boi_anachronism_ wrote: »

This thread is pretty wild. Ngl. Harder content = better rewards. Thats it. Its only the most optomized groups that care about this anyway since the gain is fractional. Just what. Should we get pref drops now from all events with trials too like the last rg event? I dont understand this logic. No it doesnt "effect" anyone personally but it destroys the value of doing harder content. Like why bother?

The incentive for doing harder content is knowing that you're going to be added to the leaderboard to have the opportunity to obtain prizes at the end of the week if you have a decent amount of points.

Majority of people who is completing vMA is not being added to the prize bracket of the leadeboard and they're completly aware of that before entering vMA so that argument is pretty much false. Also part of the prizes for getting into the leaderboards are perfected weapons just with better quality than those obtained through regular clear.

Ardriel

The purpose of an event is to give additional rewards for the same content. Not vet loot for normal content. What do you want next? Perfected Relequen for Cloudrest normal during Summerset event? Think about how ridiculous that sounds. You have to earn these things. What would be the point of perfected gear if it was available at events without any effort? The game would become completely boring and trivial. As the overland content already is...

Czeri

Let's put it this way - if the purpose of the event is to get players engaged with previously dead content, then the bug certainly did that for me. I've done normal Maelstrom once when it was released, and since it took me all day, I never went back. It must have been nerfed massively over the years, but I never paid attention, because in my mind it was too much effort to try.

I did run it to see if the perfected weapons drop, and was pleasantly surprised how easy it was. I am now running it every day during the event to fill up my sticker book, and am even flirting with the idea of trying vet. Had there not been the bug, it wouldn't have occurred to me to touch it.

Does anyone know if Vateshran has been nerfed? I haven't even managed to finish that on normal once, because I always fail the very last dps check on the final boss. With two adds on my head and no ability to choose targets, I never manage to kill one of the creeping void things before the chain tightens and nukes me...

Vulkunne

No vet loot without vet clear.

For those who are struggling with this, please understand that these days there are *numerous* good and reliable resources on youtube that can help you finish vMA as well as go back to get all the vet weps. You just need the right build and put the time in like everyone else.

SmellyUnlimited

You want perfected, you do the harder content. Same with trials. You should want to challenge yourself on vMA instead of relying on a bug to get the higher tier weapons.

Pixiepumpkin

I mean...

On one hand people should work for their wares, this I agree.
On the other hand, we have the golden vendor selling monster helms and shoulders every week, so not exactly working for their wares.

So really, 1 time a year I think its safe to say that allowing people to obtain perfected weapons from 8 year old content for 2 weeks throughout the year is not going to hurt anyone.

Let folks have their "free" perfected (I mean, they still have to grind the arena).

Katahdin

I worked my proverbial but off to get my VMA weapon before they dropped on normal. Weeks of beating my head against the final boss before I finally cleared it. I felt cheated when they made those a normal drop and didnt allow those of us that completed VETERAN MA with the better weapons to upgrade them.

It completely negated the hours of effort and deaths it took for me to complete it.

It was a bug that should never have happened and VETERAN rewards are not entitled to people doing NORMAL during an event.

If you want the VETERAN rewards, DO THE VETERAN CONTENT and work at it like those that have did.
If you arent willing to go through what it takes to get it, you dont deserve it.

Otherwise I want Godslayer and Tick Tock rewarded to me during an event for a normal run*





*p.s. no I dont

Jack-0

RaikaNA wrote: »

boi_anachronism_ wrote: »

This thread is pretty wild. Ngl. Harder content = better rewards. Thats it. Its only the most optomized groups that care about this anyway since the gain is fractional. Just what. Should we get pref drops now from all events with trials too like the last rg event? I dont understand this logic. No it doesnt "effect" anyone personally but it destroys the value of doing harder content. Like why bother?

The incentive for doing harder content is knowing that you're going to be added to the leaderboard to have the opportunity to obtain prizes at the end of the week if you have a decent amount of points.

Um nope.... You don't get to dictate what people find to be their incentive for doing harder content. Perhaps some people would want to do harder content for the challenge or the gear or the prestige or the achievements, and don't give a damn about the leaderboard.

Soarora

Czeri wrote: »

Does anyone know if Vateshran has been nerfed? I haven't even managed to finish that on normal once, because I always fail the very last dps check on the final boss. With two adds on my head and no ability to choose targets, I never manage to kill one of the creeping void things before the chain tightens and nukes me...

I don’t think vateshran was nerfed but I’d definitely give it another shot. Just on my main (who has pretty bad DPS, I’d assume about the same as any overland casual) I struggled to clear, left for like a year, came back and it was a lot easier. Maybe my build changed, maybe I was more experienced with doing mechanics, but I got through it.

Vulkunne

Katahdin wrote: »

I worked my proverbial but off to get my VMA weapon before they dropped on normal. Weeks of beating my head against the final boss before I finally cleared it. I felt cheated when they made those a normal drop and didnt allow those of us that completed VETERAN MA with the better weapons to upgrade them.

It completely negated the hours of effort and deaths it took for me to complete it.

It was a bug that should never have happened and VETERAN rewards are not entitled to people doing NORMAL during an event.

If you want the VETERAN rewards, DO THE VETERAN CONTENT and work at it like those that have did.
If you arent willing to go through what it takes to get it, you dont deserve it.

Otherwise I want Godslayer and Tick Tock rewarded to me during an event for a normal run*





*p.s. no I dont

I walked straight thru hell obtaining every perfected weapon for vDSA, vVH and vMA (single runs for the entire sticker book plus leads in some instances). None of these were done during an event either, in fact as I recall (from the last half of 2022?) a month or two after completing the vVH content they had an event for vVH and I got nothing for it.

ZOS if you guys are going to set these little things up for people to get handed things, can we open a ticket to maybe get some gold or compensation or something for the time we put in? Cause its not right to do things this way. I know saying this will not be popular but if you did receive a vet reward on a normal run you really should delete that and give it back because you didn't earn it and you don't deserve it.

I don't care if its 1x a year, because I spent 1x week going thru hell for vVH and vMA, over and over again and no one gave me a thing for free. So no I'm not ok with this either. However if anyone wants to run this vet content and would like some help or advice on how to do this properly, I would love to help you out. There are other resources out there that I'm aware of that can also help.

OtarTheMad

My lord y’all realize it’s a video game right?

Pixiepumpkin

My question is how many people who are against the event only perfected weapons out of normal idea, also buy golded gear or monster helms from the vendor on weekends.

Because the same argument can be made "I worked my bum off in vet XYZ to get XYZ helm...."

danno8

RaikaNA wrote: »

boi_anachronism_ wrote: »

This thread is pretty wild. Ngl. Harder content = better rewards. Thats it. Its only the most optomized groups that care about this anyway since the gain is fractional. Just what. Should we get pref drops now from all events with trials too like the last rg event? I dont understand this logic. No it doesnt "effect" anyone personally but it destroys the value of doing harder content. Like why bother?

The incentive for doing harder content is knowing that you're going to be added to the leaderboard to have the opportunity to obtain prizes at the end of the week if you have a decent amount of points.

Until someone comes to the forums and demands that they get the same rewards as first place during an event, while insisting the true reward is a personal sense of pride.

Do you see where this is going?

Soarora

Pixiepumpkin wrote: »

My question is how many people who are against the event only perfected weapons out of normal idea, also buy golded gear or monster helms from the vendor on weekends.

Because the same argument can be made "I worked my bum off in vet XYZ to get XYZ helm...."

I don’t really have a horse in this race, I hated the perfected drops because it was a bug that was being encouraged to be exploited by so many people. Not sure on my perspective on having perfected drop on normal during an event.

That said, the vendor items require less work to get than maelstrom perfected. Maelstrom takes forever just because of how its set up and it also requires you to be good solo. Doing a vet dungeon to get a monster helm? You can get carried. Vet dungeons also aren’t that hard.

I don’t actually buy from the gold vendor because I don’t see the point… I have the helmets? To me, the gold vendor is for casuals and PvPers.

Vaqual

I don't really view carries as problematic or as handouts. Buy a run for a dungeon/trial, nobody cares. Can save you lots of time. Being a burden in a regular group vs being a burden in a carry doesn't say or change much. Achieving your goals with the means available is completely fine.

But vMA is literally the only single player skill check. And it isn't even hard. You can literally memorize all spawns and swap gear between arenas, there is unlimited time and power creep has completely relativated the content even for crafted gear. Complaining about a bug being removed and alleging that players, who value the effort/reward-relationship tied to those weapons, are dictating something to you, is just a bit too much.