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Ithelia Figure in Bethesda Store
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✭✭Oh I think its intentional, I think they are going off greek mythology inspiration for her design. With more of a fate/fury look. She has a whip those are associated with furies of greek mythlogy and seen a few images of furies with wings that kind of look very similar. The whip looks like a golden thread too, if you look up the three fates and then the furies. I uploaded one image of a fury down below compared with the image of Ithellia. One good image of a fate I cannot use here since its topless but can see the inspiration in that one too. That I saw on google.
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✭✭✭✭✭OtarTheMad wrote: »I just think people are over thinking this. LoL.
But as an example some races already hate Hermaeus Mora
Which race collectively hates Mora? Do you mean the Skaal? They're no race, but a small secluded living tribe that consist only of a few dozen people. Such small groups can share the same mindset, but when it comes to much bigger societies of thousands of individuals, there's no such collectivism anymore.OtarTheMad wrote: »so yeah, I think if she went up to Nords or others and said something that blunt, even tried to manipulate the situation by saying the changes aren’t her, she is trying to stop Mora… people might believe her because they know “good” daedra exist and they hate Mora.
She would probably find worshippers just as any other Daedric Prince (they all have cultists after all, no matter how awful their "bad" aspects are - think of Molag Bal, for example), but it certainly wouldn't be a mass phenomenon. Many people know that Daedric Princes are deceitful and have aspects about them that can get really dangerous - also, the cultures of Tamriel are not in a blank state right now, they have their traditions and religious beliefs. If we take the Nords as an example, they for sure won't just give up their religion and pantheon because a beautiful female Daedric Prince screaming "I'm nice and if you worship me, I'll reward you!" pops up.@Syldras | PC | EU
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tsaescishoeshiner✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Generally agree with the sentiment that it's a pretty meta and normy look. But my overall impression might improve when we meet and interact with her, so I'll wait for that. Voice, presence, and personality can make a big impact. How would Sheogorath or ESO Nocturnal look if we just saw them for the first time as a big reveal in a trailer?
She might have stood out more as an orc, or perhaps an alfiq. Or a Kothringi or like a silver-gray Ayleid. Or maybe a short Bosmer with a big personality.
Or maybe she just needs 300% more runic tattoos. Or cool irises or glass skin.PC-NA
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✭That's a beautiful figurine. I disagree with previous posters that say she's too human/not Daedric enough, etc. Please have some respect for the artistic design and thought that would've gone into this. Not everything has to look a certain way. No reason a Daedric prince can't look different/stunning/alluring.~ "You think me brutish? How do you imagine I view you?" - Molag Bal #misunderstood ~10 -
Kavreiss✭✭✭Differences in personality matter. Such split personalities don't always share the same memory or they develop a third to make sense of the gaps. Sheo might be content to leave her be or might not have the presence of mind to actually DO something about it whereas Jyggalag might want to restore order. OR Sheo might want to release her to get even with the other princes for whatever slight they've inflicted and/or just promote more chaos?0 -
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✭✭✭LadyAstrum wrote: »No reason a Daedric prince can't look different.
That is what khajiit was saying. Different. Not ... human, like over half the other Daedric Princes.
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Kavreiss✭✭✭Differences in personality matter. Such sThevampirenight wrote: »Oh I think its intentional, I think they are going off greek mythology inspiration for her design. With more of a fate/fury look. She has a whip those are associated with furies of greek mythlogy and seen a few images of furies with wings that kind of look very similar. The whip looks like a golden thread too, if you look up the three fates and then the furies. I uploaded one image of a fury down below compared with the image of Ithellia. One good image of a fate I cannot use here since its topless but can see the inspiration in that one too. That I saw on google.Thevampirenight wrote: »Oh I think its intentional, I think they are going off greek mythology inspiration for her design. With more of a fate/fury look. She has a whip those are associated with furies of greek mythlogy and seen a few images of furies with wings that kind of look very similar. The whip looks like a golden thread too, if you look up the three fates and then the furies. I uploaded one image of a fury down below compared with the image of Ithellia. One good image of a fate I cannot use here since its topless but can see the inspiration in that one too. That I saw on google.
i was trying to find the meaning of the name earlier and i just plugged it into google translate and it's def of greek origin but with romanized alphabet.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭aspergalas4 wrote: »The appearance of Ithelia simply doesn't look Daedric enough, the glass shard aesthetic is unique but her appearance beyond that is rather mundane for an entity that is as otherworldly as Daedra are.
Sheo appears as literally just a guy in a Two-Face suit. Azura appears as literally just a dark elf holding a moon and star. Nocturnal is just a chick with a skimpy robe and a couple raven pets. I mean jeez, Meridia's IN GAME model is just a transparent female Breton NPC. Malacath is just an orc in a loincloth.
In fact, the only Princes with particularly "Otherworldly" appearances are Mora, Peryite, Mephala, Bal, and Dagon. Maybe Hircine too, but he's basically just a normal dude with a stag skull.
Azura in Morrowind^
Like, how is this "otherworldly" if Ithelia is "mundane"?
Really feels like one of those scenarios of "this is something new so I hate it".Edited by CameraBeardThePirate on January 19, 2024 11:05PM7 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Thevampirenight wrote: »Oh I think its intentional, I think they are going off greek mythology inspiration for her design. With more of a fate/fury look. She has a whip those are associated with furies of greek mythlogy and seen a few images of furies with wings that kind of look very similar. The whip looks like a golden thread too, if you look up the three fates and then the furies. I uploaded one image of a fury down below compared with the image of Ithellia. One good image of a fate I cannot use here since its topless but can see the inspiration in that one too. That I saw on google
It's no whip. This is one of her hands:
This the other:
It's probably supposed to be this, although it was highly stylized in that depiction:
I'm quire sure it's supposed to be the strings of fate, though.
Btw, her name sounds Greek(-inspired), too. I've been wondering all the time what it reminds me of.@Syldras | PC | EU
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✭She looks like a fairy ornament.
Less of that and maybe a bit more biblically accurate angel would go a long way. Currently, for me at least, It's just a bit boring...7 -
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✭✭✭✭✭tsaescishoeshiner wrote: »Generally agree with the sentiment that it's a pretty meta and normy look. But my overall impression might improve when we meet and interact with her, so I'll wait for that. Voice, presence, and personality can make a big impact. How would Sheogorath or ESO Nocturnal look if we just saw them for the first time as a big reveal in a trailer?
Unusual, already from the clothes they're wearing. It's clear they're not the average person.tsaescishoeshiner wrote: »She might have stood out more as an orc, or perhaps an alfiq. Or a Kothringi or like a silver-gray Ayleid. Or maybe a short Bosmer with a big personality.
Or maybe she just needs 300% more runic tattoos. Or cool irises or glass skin.
I posted some pictures here, as an example how tiny details can change a look from "normal young woman" to "this is some non-human creature":
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/8028276#Comment_8028276
They're still young women, more or less beautiful according to the current norms when it comes to face and bodyshape, but small aspects like glowing eyes, non-human hands or claws and unusual clothing already change the impression a lot.Treselegant wrote: »She looks like a fairy ornament.
Christmas angel with rainbow wings holding a string of holiday lights
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✭✭✭✭✭HappyTheCamper wrote: »Like I actually think what we got with Tho’at would be a much better design. Imagine if we got a Daedric prince made of that liquid glass shard stuff like Tho’at, and her form and weapon change every now and then to showcase her mastery of heroes and paths/choices. Like a glassy/liquid ditto Daedric prince? I think that would have been much better personally!
I’d had made her face completely flat and featureless, like a mirror, and when you look at it you see yourself except on a different path than the one you took.
I admit the last part would be kind of hard to include on a real wold object though.
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✭✭✭✭✭Treselegant wrote: »She looks like a fairy ornament.
Christmas angel with rainbow wings holding a string of holiday lights
That's what I thought of the statue when I first saw it. And - if it weren't so expensive, that's exactly what I'd buy it for, the top of the Christmas tree in future. (I'm not at all involved in the whole Christmas "thing", being more on the Wiccan side of things - the tree etc is for husband who's totally conventional, and would simply see it as a pretty angel....)
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✭✭✭✭✭WhiteCoatSyndrome wrote: »I’d had made her face completely flat and featureless, like a mirror, and when you look at it you see yourself except on a different path than the one you took.
I admit the last part would be kind of hard to include on a real wold object though.
Just stick a picture of a skull on it, I'm quite sure there's a whole bunch of realities in which we'd already be dead @Syldras | PC | EU
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Sarayn Andrethi, Telvanni mage (Main)
Darvasa Andrethi, his "I'm NOT a Necromancer!" sister
Malacar Sunavarlas, Altmer Ayleid vampire
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ArchangelIsraphel✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭The quality of that statue....for that price? Oof. I collect action figures and statues, and I've paid $30-$50 for figures that were WAY better looking than this. The design is pretty awkward, to say the least. It's trying to be graceful but falls short of the mark.
The resemblance to Britney Spears in her younger years is also more than a little uncanny O_o; Sort of a Barbie/Britney crossover...
I can hear her voice echoing over the West Weild now...
Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah
Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah
I think I did it again
I made you believe I'm the lost Daedric Prince
Oh baby
It might seem like a world-ending plot
But it doesn't mean that I'm the Prince you forgot
'Cause to come back from exile
That is just so typically me
Oh baby, baby
Legends never die
They're written down in eternity
But you'll never see the price it costs
The scars collected all their lives
When everything's lost, they pick up their hearts and avenge defeat
Before it all starts, they suffer through harm just to touch a dream
Oh, pick yourself up, 'cause
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OtarTheMad✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭OtarTheMad wrote: »I just think people are over thinking this. LoL.
But as an example some races already hate Hermaeus Mora
Which race collectively hates Mora? Do you mean the Skaal? They're no race, but a small secluded living tribe that consist only of a few dozen people. Such small groups can share the same mindset, but when it comes to much bigger societies of thousands of individuals, there's no such collectivism anymore.OtarTheMad wrote: »so yeah, I think if she went up to Nords or others and said something that blunt, even tried to manipulate the situation by saying the changes aren’t her, she is trying to stop Mora… people might believe her because they know “good” daedra exist and they hate Mora.
She would probably find worshippers just as any other Daedric Prince (they all have cultists after all, no matter how awful their "bad" aspects are - think of Molag Bal, for example), but it certainly wouldn't be a mass phenomenon. Many people know that Daedric Princes are deceitful and have aspects about them that can get really dangerous - also, the cultures of Tamriel are not in a blank state right now, they have their traditions and religious beliefs. If we take the Nords as an example, they for sure won't just give up their religion and pantheon because a beautiful female Daedric Prince screaming "I'm nice and if you worship me, I'll reward you!" pops up.
Well, the Nords, off the top of my head anyway. Lyris even says “By Mora’s wagging tongue.” Nords even dropped the worship of Jhunal because he seemed like Hermaeus Mora.
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✭✭✭✭✭ArchangelIsraphel wrote: »The quality of that statue....for that price? Oof. I collect action figures and statues, and I've paid $30-$50 for figures that were WAY better looking than this. The design is pretty awkward, to say the least. It's trying to be graceful but falls short of the mark.
The resemblance to Britney Spears in her younger years is also more than a little uncanny O_o; Sort of a Barbie/Britney crossover...
I can hear her voice echoing over the West Weild now...
Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah
Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah
I think I did it again
I made you believe I'm the lost Daedric Prince
Oh baby
It might seem like a world-ending plot
But it doesn't mean that I'm the Prince you forgot
'Cause to come back from exile
That is just so typically me
Oh baby, baby
Oops I
Did it again to the Mundus—!
Now I want to see some Ithelia-themed karaoke during the next ESO Live.#proud2BAStarObsessedLoony
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✭✭✭✭✭ArchangelIsraphel wrote: »The quality of that statue....for that price? Oof. I collect action figures and statues, and I've paid $30-$50 for figures that were WAY better looking than this. The design is pretty awkward, to say the least. It's trying to be graceful but falls short of the mark.
Just for comparison, these statuettes are about 70$ each:
(Mods, please note that this Goddess isn't topless, she's wearing some kind of brassiere).
Not just usual plastic, but heavy polyresin. The golden color isn't just paint, they statuettes are actually brass-coated. I own a few and can confirm that they look even better in reality than on those photos. Btw, the manufacturer also does slightly tinted and colored ones, for those who like it more colorful (personally, I prefer the "classic" unpainted look; let alone that colorful plastic figurines would look a bit out of place on my furniture).ArchangelIsraphel wrote: »The resemblance to Britney Spears in her younger years is also more than a little uncanny O_o; Sort of a Barbie/Britney crossover...
Exactly my thought! It's a bit relieving I'm not the only one who sees that.@Syldras | PC | EU
The forceful expression of will gives true honor to the Ancestors.
Sarayn Andrethi, Telvanni mage (Main)
Darvasa Andrethi, his "I'm NOT a Necromancer!" sister
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laniakea_0✭✭✭✭can we be sure this is her true form? they did say several times that she was walking through the West Weald, basically blending in with the locals. so could it be possible that she picked this shape for her escape?then there's also the fact that one of the glyphics containing Mora's secret has not been opened yet. I think it's conceivable that she isn't able to assume her true shape yet...Edited by laniakea_0 on January 19, 2024 11:41PM4 -
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✭✭laniakea_0 wrote: »can we be sure this is her true form? they did say several times that she was walking through the West Weald, basically blending in with the locals. so could it be possible that she picked this shape for her escape?then there's also the fact that one of the glyphics containing Mora's secret has not been opened yet. I think it's conceivable that she isn't able to assume her true shape yet...
Didn’t even think about this but that could be completely true. I mean they did say she was trying to get her powers and memories back. This could have just been the simplest thing to do in order to blend in.
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Kalle_Demos✭✭✭✭✭aspergalas4 wrote: »The appearance of Ithelia simply doesn't look Daedric enough, the glass shard aesthetic is unique but her appearance beyond that is rather mundane for an entity that is as otherworldly as Daedra are.
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✭✭✭✭✭OtarTheMad wrote: »Well, the Nords, off the top of my head anyway.
The religions of most human "races" ("people" would actually make more sense) of Tamriel paints daedra as an evil threat. They are negative figures, yes. I don't see that Nord intensely hate Mora, though, and also not that they specifically hate him more than others. There's a general disapproval towards daedra and I don't find it probably that they would look favorably on a Daedric Prince because that Daedric Prince is enemy to another Daedric Prince they might fear or dislike even more. It's still daedra worship.OtarTheMad wrote: »Lyris even says “By Mora’s wagging tongue.”
There are also phrase like that about Vivec and even Dibella (phrases I'm not sure I can even quote here
), by people who worship them as part of their native land's religion. @Syldras | PC | EU
The forceful expression of will gives true honor to the Ancestors.
Sarayn Andrethi, Telvanni mage (Main)
Darvasa Andrethi, his "I'm NOT a Necromancer!" sister
Malacar Sunavarlas, Altmer Ayleid vampire
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✭✭✭✭✭Kalle_Demos wrote: »aspergalas4 wrote: »The appearance of Ithelia simply doesn't look Daedric enough, the glass shard aesthetic is unique but her appearance beyond that is rather mundane for an entity that is as otherworldly as Daedra are.
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Half the cast enters the chat lol. That's such a strange criticism.
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✭✭ArchangelIsraphel wrote: »The quality of that statue....for that price? Oof. I collect action figures and statues, and I've paid $30-$50 for figures that were WAY better looking than this. The design is pretty awkward, to say the least. It's trying to be graceful but falls short of the mark.
Just for comparison, these statuettes are about 70$ each:
(Mods, please note that this Goddess isn't topless, she's wearing some kind of brassiere).
Not just usual plastic, but heavy polyresin. The golden color isn't just paint, they statuettes are actually brass-coated. I own a few and can confirm that they look even better in reality than on those photos. Btw, the manufacturer also does slightly tinted and colored ones, for those who like it more colorful (personally, I prefer the "classic" unpainted look; let alone that colorful plastic figurines would look a bit out of place on my furniture).ArchangelIsraphel wrote: »The resemblance to Britney Spears in her younger years is also more than a little uncanny O_o; Sort of a Barbie/Britney crossover...
Exactly my thought! It's a bit relieving I'm not the only one who sees that.
All I can picture now is at the end, Mora making everyone forget her again, and then Mora breaking out into song “Oops, I did it again…” while somehow flipping off Ithelia
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✭✭✭✭✭ArchangelIsraphel wrote: »The quality of that statue....for that price? Oof. I collect action figures and statues, and I've paid $30-$50 for figures that were WAY better looking than this. The design is pretty awkward, to say the least. It's trying to be graceful but falls short of the mark.
Just for comparison, these statuettes are about 70$ each:
(Mods, please note that this Goddess isn't topless, she's wearing some kind of brassiere).
Not just usual plastic, but heavy polyresin. The golden color isn't just paint, they statuettes are actually brass-coated. I own a few and can confirm that they look even better in reality than on those photos. Btw, the manufacturer also does slightly tinted and colored ones, for those who like it more colorful (personally, I prefer the "classic" unpainted look; let alone that colorful plastic figurines would look a bit out of place on my furniture).ArchangelIsraphel wrote: »The resemblance to Britney Spears in her younger years is also more than a little uncanny O_o; Sort of a Barbie/Britney crossover...
Exactly my thought! It's a bit relieving I'm not the only one who sees that.
I own quite a few cold-cast resins as well- I favor those from Veronese Designs, as the detail is superb. I recently spent about $75 on a statue of the angel Uriel that really impressed me. Really, the photos never do them justice, it's the truth. Even the mini versions are impressive, though I like the larger ones best. I have several from their mythology collection that are bigger than the statue from Bethesda, and cost me less.
Even though I collect action figures, I also favor the classic look on these, especially the bronze ones. The quality is far superior- especially the grace of the actual sculpting, when compared to any of the special edition figures from the Bethesda store.
This figure could have been fantastic had she been done in resin, with a better design. I might have considered buying her in spite of the generic appearance if she'd felt more....inspired, in terms of the pose.Edited by ArchangelIsraphel on January 20, 2024 12:32AMLegends never die
They're written down in eternity
But you'll never see the price it costs
The scars collected all their lives
When everything's lost, they pick up their hearts and avenge defeat
Before it all starts, they suffer through harm just to touch a dream
Oh, pick yourself up, 'cause
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✭✭✭✭✭I.... envision a sadder eventuality - with Mora a bit unhappy that it must again imprison Ithelia and then forge the forgetfulness needed (for whatever reason - I don't know the reason, I'm not Mora).
You know, the fact that Bethesda assisted in the "birth" of this new Prince is actually pretty interesting. It makes me wonder what might be going on for TES VI - and I sure hope I'm still alive to play it whenever it releases. And I also hope it's not going to be VR - because I just can't do that, and that would be the HUGEST bummer of my life....______________________________________________________
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✭✭OtarTheMad wrote: »Well, the Nords, off the top of my head anyway.
The religions of most human "races" ("people" would actually make more sense) of Tamriel paints daedra as an evil threat. They are negative figures, yes. I don't see that Nord intensely hate Mora, though, and also not that they specifically hate him more than others. There's a general disapproval towards daedra and I don't find it probably that they would look favorably on a Daedric Prince because that Daedric Prince is enemy to another Daedric Prince they might fear or dislike even more. It's still daedra worship.OtarTheMad wrote: »Lyris even says “By Mora’s wagging tongue.”
There are also phrase like that about Vivec and even Dibella (phrases I'm not sure I can even quote here ), by people who worship them as part of their native land's religion.
I said races so that you didn’t think I meant IRL people because that has happened before. I guess I should have been more detailed and worded it better. People within the races of Tamriel that “live” in this video game franchise called The Elder Scrolls that was made by Bethesda Softworks, then Bethesda Game Studios who then let a new studio ZeniMax Media Inc create a title Elder Scrolls Online made by ZeniMax Online Studios. Good? LoL. Half messing with you, half serious. I did only say races because people have confused what I meant.
But yeah, I feel that Ithelia could manipulate people into trusting her if she wanted to and a good way to do so in Imperial land would be an Imperial women. And some people do not like Hermaeus Mora and might blindly believe that this woman needs help.
As for the statue, it’s fine. I am not a fan of the price or that they kind of made it sound fragile. It’s way over priced but so was the Hermaeus Mora statue.
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