Ithelia Figure in Bethesda Store

MrCray78

LunaFlora

yes she is so beautiful

aspergalas4

The appearance of Ithelia simply doesn't look Daedric enough, the glass shard aesthetic is unique but her appearance beyond that is rather mundane for an entity that is as otherworldly as Daedra are.

Elsonso

I am sure her appearance is that way to attract young male Daedra to her. Build a following fast.

Seems to be working, I might add.

Elvenheart

At least one of my characters will be pledging themselves to Ithelia, I hope she appreciates mortal worshipers! 😂

WhiteCoatSyndrome

aspergalas4 wrote: »

The appearance of Ithelia simply doesn't look Daedric enough, the glass shard aesthetic is unique but her appearance beyond that is rather mundane for an entity that is as otherworldly as Daedra are.

I was thinking the opposite - that her aesthetic was too close to Jyggalag.

karthrag_inak

Khajiit finds it insulting, to be frank. "Let's have a new daedric prince. From the vast spectrum of possible prince appearances and physiologies, let's pick....adorable white 16 year old cheerleader".

Seriously? A completely blank slate, and THAT was chosen? So disappointing. Khajiit should be happy perhaps. At least she's not "Like BLONDE, oh my god BECKY!, whatEVER. Totally!"

pbpbpbpbpbt.

aspergalas4

WhiteCoatSyndrome wrote: »

aspergalas4 wrote: »

The appearance of Ithelia simply doesn't look Daedric enough, the glass shard aesthetic is unique but her appearance beyond that is rather mundane for an entity that is as otherworldly as Daedra are.

I was thinking the opposite - that her aesthetic was too close to Jyggalag.

There is a bit of an overlap in the aesthetic for sure, having Jyggalag returning to be the antagonist in a different way than we experienced in Oblivion would of probably been more interesting too haha. Oh well.

Syldras

aspergalas4 wrote: »

The appearance of Ithelia simply doesn't look Daedric enough, the glass shard aesthetic is unique but her appearance beyond that is rather mundane for an entity that is as otherworldly as Daedra are.

Yeah, she just looks like the average young human woman.

Elsonso wrote: »

I am sure her appearance is that way to attract young male Daedra to her. Build a following fast.

I thought the glittery rainbow shards (even shaped like angel wings) might be a bit off-putting to most Daedra. Yes, I know, Daedric things don't neccessarily have to look dark and spiky, but even Meridia has a more "serious" tone to her.

Elvenheart wrote: »

At least one of my characters will be pledging themselves to Ithelia

I feel a bit sorry for them. Chances are high that at the end of the chapter, they've forgotten whom they've been worshipping.

Syldras

karthrag_inak wrote: »

Khajiit finds it insulting, to be frank. "Let's have a new daedric prince. From the vast spectrum of possible prince appearances and physiologies, let's pick....adorable white 16 year old cheerleader".
Seriously? A completely blank slate, and THAT was chosen? So disappointing. Khajiit should be happy perhaps. At least she's not "Like BLONDE, oh my god BECKY!, whatEVER. Totally!"
pbpbpbpbpbt.

Yeah, right? I would have wished for a more otherworldly, "alien" look. They could have even made use of the glass theme (I'm fine with that, Jyggalag's was not glass, but crystals - close, but not identical), by making her body and facial features actually look like being made from glass, with all kinds of sharp edges and a slight icy transparency.

Elvenheart

Syldras wrote: »

aspergalas4 wrote: »

The appearance of Ithelia simply doesn't look Daedric enough, the glass shard aesthetic is unique but her appearance beyond that is rather mundane for an entity that is as otherworldly as Daedra are.

Yeah, she just looks like the average young human woman.

Elsonso wrote: »

I am sure her appearance is that way to attract young male Daedra to her. Build a following fast.

I thought the glittery rainbow shards (even shaped like angel wings) might be a bit off-putting to most Daedra. Yes, I know, Daedric things don't neccessarily have to look dark and spiky, but even Meridia has a more "serious" tone to her.

Elvenheart wrote: »

At least one of my characters will be pledging themselves to Ithelia

I feel a bit sorry for them. Chances are high that at the end of the chapter, they've forgotten whom they've been worshipping.

I awesomed that, it made me laugh 😆

TheNuminous1

aspergalas4 wrote: »

The appearance of Ithelia simply doesn't look Daedric enough, the glass shard aesthetic is unique but her appearance beyond that is rather mundane for an entity that is as otherworldly as Daedra are.

Nocturnal is literally a beautiful woman. Peryite is a dragon. Herma mora is an eyeball with tentacles.
Sheo is a man, hircine is a man with a deer helmet(the graht elk, cause he hates yffre for stealing nirni) boethia is a person in armor, heck, half of clavicus is a dog.

I think she looks fine and her aesthetic reminds me of Tho'at replicanum. Who I theorize was one of her daedra.

Anyways. Her look is fine. That's just how your mortal eyes perceive ithelia. Daedric princes are any shape they wish to present as.

TheNuminous1

Syldras wrote: »

karthrag_inak wrote: »

Khajiit finds it insulting, to be frank. "Let's have a new daedric prince. From the vast spectrum of possible prince appearances and physiologies, let's pick....adorable white 16 year old cheerleader".
Seriously? A completely blank slate, and THAT was chosen? So disappointing. Khajiit should be happy perhaps. At least she's not "Like BLONDE, oh my god BECKY!, whatEVER. Totally!"
pbpbpbpbpbt.

Yeah, right? I would have wished for a more otherworldly, "alien" look. They could have even made use of the glass theme (I'm fine with that, Jyggalag's was not glass, but crystals - close, but not identical), by making her body and facial features actually look like being made from glass, with all kinds of sharp edges and a slight icy transparency.

Many princes don't have some crazy look to them. Many present as mortal bodied

KlauthWarthog

WhiteCoatSyndrome wrote: »

aspergalas4 wrote: »

The appearance of Ithelia simply doesn't look Daedric enough, the glass shard aesthetic is unique but her appearance beyond that is rather mundane for an entity that is as otherworldly as Daedra are.

I was thinking the opposite - that her aesthetic was too close to Jyggalag.

Ah, so I am not the only one getting Jyggalag vibes from her crystal aesthetics.

aspergalas4

Sharrum wrote: »

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With the aforementioned princes being as you described it just raises the question of why do we need another one? If you are going to shake up the lore to this extent (which I actually support) you go the full distance, all this design does is reaffirm why this prince was "forgotten", because she is forgettable design wise barring the glass wings (which I do think is a decent aesthetic to set the Prince apart from the others, just not enough).

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Sharrum

Most Deadric Princes choose to appear as a form that can appeal or be understood by mortals when interacting with them. Its why 80% of them just appear as a simple humanoid figure, its not just females.

Sheogorath, Hircine, Clavicus, Nocturnal, Meridia, Azura, Boethiah...

Truly the only ones who choose to appears as something different to mortal eyes are Peryite, Molag Bal (cause he wants mortals to fear him) and HMora (cause he likes to appear unknowable).

I really really dont see the problem wih Ithellia appearing as a "simple" woman on the mortal plane...

Syldras

TheNuminous1 wrote: »

Many princes don't have some crazy look to them. Many present as mortal bodied

I know. But now they invented a new one they could have made more of it than just perpetuating the bland habit of making especially female Daedric Princes just look like normal mortals. Of course they could still shapeshift to a inconspicuous form if needed, but presenting a more unsual form to introduce them would have been more interesting. Also, I'm quire sure it's no coincidence that this happens to the female Princes (I mean, compare them with Mora, Molag Bal or Dagon - would a female Prince looking as alien as Hermaeus Mora even be thinkable?). And I'm sure you can guess why.

Syldras

Sharrum wrote: »

Most Deadric Princes choose to appear as a form that can appeal or be understood by mortals when interacting with them. Its why 80% of them just appear as a simple humanoid figure, its not just females.
Sheogorath, Hircine, Clavicus, Nocturnal, Meridia, Azura, Boethiah...

They still have something unusual about them, though, even it it's just the attire. You won't have the average mortal run around dressed like Nocturnal, Hircine or Sheogorath as their normal clothes (yeah, I know the Nocturnal dress is in the crown store, but it's a $$$$ thing and nothing what an average Tamrielic person would normally wear). There's something that makes the Daedric Princes look like they're not part of the normal mortal crowd. But in case of Ithelia, even the clothes look rather normal, imho.

Trejgon

TheNuminous1 wrote: »

aspergalas4 wrote: »

The appearance of Ithelia simply doesn't look Daedric enough, the glass shard aesthetic is unique but her appearance beyond that is rather mundane for an entity that is as otherworldly as Daedra are.

Nocturnal is literally a beautiful woman. Peryite is a dragon. Herma mora is an eyeball with tentacles.
Sheo is a man, hircine is a man with a deer helmet(the graht oak, cause he hates yffre for stealing nirni) boethia is a person in armor, heck, half of clavicus is a dog.

I think she looks fine and her aesthetic reminds me of Tho'at replicanum. Who I theorize was one of her daedra.

Anyways. Her look is fine. That's just how your mortal eyes perceive ithelia. Daedric princes are any shape they wish to present as.

I would like to expand this one by a mention that we do not know how a daedric prince "just got forgotten" so her appearance may be tied to that.

Gray_howling_parrot

I’m simping 100%

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Master_Fluff

Hmm, she has a whip. Interesting...

Syldras

Master_Fluff wrote: »

Hmm, she has a whip. Interesting...

Holiday lights are a weird choice for a whip.



We use other materials here on Vvardenfell. Yeah, I know, Ithelia has the superspecial Daedric plastic hose whip, the latest craze and height of fashion in the planes of Oblivion!

On a more serious note, it's probably something like "strings of fate" attached to a handle. She's only holding it a bit weirdly.

Pixiepumpkin

I think she is cool. Seems like a bit of a departure from other princes, but looks like an interesting character.

I just wish I had a better grasp of Elder Scrolls lore as a whole. I really need a 20 part TV series to get me caught up.

Pixiepumpkin

Master_Fluff wrote: »

Hmm, she has a whip. Interesting...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YdXQJS3Yv0Y&ab_channel=NTorch

Casul

Definitely getting Jyggalag vibes. But I have to admit I am intrigued by a forgotten daedric prince.

Tenthirty2

This is likely only one aspect of her.
I'm sure she has several others and her true form looks very little like this.

Some of the most beautiful floral and fauna in nature are also the most deadly.
It's likely misdirection, by design.

"Oooh she's so beautiful and graceful, her wings are spectac -"

*SpikeThroughTheNeck*

*gurgle*...*gag*...dead.

phaneub17_ESO

karthrag_inak wrote: »

Khajiit finds it insulting, to be frank. "Let's have a new daedric prince. From the vast spectrum of possible prince appearances and physiologies, let's pick....adorable white 16 year old cheerleader"

Save the cheerleader, save the world.

Grizzbeorn

Trejgon wrote: »

I would like to expand this one by a mention that we do not know how a daedric prince "just got forgotten"

That was explained in the Necrom story-line.

TX12001rwb17_ESO

Plot-twist: What if it turns out Ithelia is the reason the prisoner concept exists and why the Vestige always emerges victorious, what if she is only a threat to the villains and the only reason they wanted to get rid of her was because she is preventing them from ever winning by causing a Prisoner to manifest when they want to conquer Nirn.

Syldras

Trejgon wrote: »

I would like to expand this one by a mention that we do not know how a daedric prince "just got forgotten" so her appearance may be tied to that.

She wasn't "just forgotten", she was banned by erasing all memories of her. It's in the Necrom storyline.

Pixiepumpkin wrote: »

I just wish I had a better grasp of Elder Scrolls lore as a whole. I really need a 20 part TV series to get me caught up.

If you have time and feel like reading a lot (a huge lot), you could look at the UESP wiki. For example start with the Daedric Princes here:
https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Daedric_Princes

Tenthirty2 wrote: »

TSome of the most beautiful floral and fauna in nature are also the most deadly.
It's likely misdirection, by design.

Okay, this is an idea I can live with. I hope we see her other forms too, then.