Definitely not. I am largely playing this game to absorb more lore. Since the game takes place in the past relative to the games we are already familiar with in the ES universe, then it definitely has to stick to certain guidelines.

The past even in our real world isn't always set in stone. What happened and what was recorded can often be two very different things. However, it can't wildly vary from what we have known.

Chryos wrote: »

this is gonna make me sad if u guys say no dragons at least

You have... strange system of values... in my opinion.
Oh, by the way - NO DRAGONS!

@Elslayer First, you dont really know what values I hold "Person whom is hidden behind the internet that I can not see" You here to start trouble or something? Maybe I want dragons, got a problem with that? You cant tell me you dont want dragons, thats crazy talk.

Well if you want hope for Dragons, there is to some extent room for it in the existing lore. EOS takes place somewhere around 580 2nd era. We also know that some 250 years later the empire was using a few dragons during the events that took place in RedGuard.

So there is a period of time in the future where the Emperor had a few dragons under his control. Its certainly enough of a loophole to allow the appearance of dragons in EOS.

Well I just feel like we could have a bit of a distinction from the single player games vs. ESO. It would open up some new stories and adventures. What if Dwemmer were stuck in Oblivion and somehow got freed or escaped?, Same with dragons. It would have to be well written of course. This could happen way down the line (maybe 5 years or so) Just saying, think of the possibilities. Cant fight the same Daedra over and over and expect not to want something new. Anyway, guess thats what Im trying to see as far as what you guys think.

Something to consider, or not...

I will settle for a Daedra that looks like a dragon and has that "Dragon raid" feel.

Please note: I will be still be happy without, I'm just curious to see what everyone thinks, thats all.

Hum ... a hard choice and a very open one also.

If we close it down to dragons alone or the race.

Then yeah , i would have no problem seeing dragons around , just like i would have no problem with what race other players decide to play.

I already think half the forum is crazy because they have an issue with the fact others are playing too many vampires :P. Yeap , good and old people trying to tell others how to play.

But there are other lore changes that would annoy me greatly.

Hell, no.

There are too many lore breaking things already, let's keep dragons and Dwemer out, we really don't need them.
I'm already rather annoyed by often having to do quests for "good" vampires during the area stories (Rivenspire in DC for example, Eastmarch in EP). Skipping those quests isn't an option, as they are part of the storyline quests for the area and skipping would prevent the later parts (not to mention the masses of PC vampires, I guess there are just too many Twilight fans about...).

No. Unless, of course its done in lorewise ways, which I suppose most of the "yes" folks would not like. This means NO rideable dragons. Remember that even at "Dragonborn" only the Dovahkiin could ride dragons. We know a few may be around at ESO's time. They should NOT be any ordinary boss but ultimate powerhouses capable of wiping out cities and armies. In terms of power, the closest thing we have currently in game would be those vamp DK exploiters and remember - the dragons can't actually be killed , but only put to "sleep" to be later awakened by Aldouin. So, this brings a number of severe limitations for a dragon encounter. I can only imagine it as some sort of ultimate PvE challenge. A one of a kind.

Dwemer and Snow Elves should NOT be present as playable races, but I can imagine a certain Dwemer as a quest giver. That would be a cool easter egg and lorewise too. Two Snow Elves could be available too, but the "WOW, COOL!" impact factor, at least for me, would not be as great. Remember also they should be at specific locations.

Tired to see dragons in every single fantasy mmorpg out there (feels like that anyway). I'm actually happy we are in a time period they are but legends in Tamriel, so stick to the lore please.

Observing lore is not equal to restricting creativity and potential.

Horses are present in TES, so, they fit. Yes, there should be more diversity in their colors and color patterns plus the option for armored horses.

TES lore has other mounts than horses; there's no need, IMHO, to look outside its lore. Guars come to mind, for example.

This put, I want to ride a wamasu with armor. One which will join my fights and battles in open areas, and when I exit a dungeon, I want to find it looking at me with large teary "I-missed-you" eyes while chewing a bot's femur. If this is not possible, I want to ride Twilight Sparkle. Yep. Ride AND ride, she's got that rounded rear side that... Its a fantasy mmorpg... What? Its not about that type of fantasy?

Preserving lore is the most important thing for Immersion. Breaking the lore breaks suspension of disbelief because by defying the rules of the second world, you make it no longer believable.

That said, Dragons can be in ESO.

And it doesn't break lore in any way shape or form.

Read this Skyrim Book: Atlas of Dragons

There were Dragons around in the Second Era. Just not many of them.

OK, my next topic I bring up for discussion is this....

Since we are starting this MMO way in the past of the current games:

How long do you think in real time would it take to catch up to, let's say..Skyrim?

Do you think maybe that this could have been they're plan?; to progress the story in a way that the future time periods could happen? Do you think in 10 years of real time that we would be caught up to the current times in Skyrim?

And, is that something you would want to happen as a natural flow of the overall story?