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People rerolling and leaving game over Nightblade broken/underpowered
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martymart76_ESO✭✭✭MasterLanz wrote: »martymart76_ESO wrote: »"Pour their secrets and combos out" to people? Secrets? Really? Like it's lost, forbidden, and ancient knowledge that gives them power they will somehow lose if they tell others? Come on... Are you serious or just arguing to argue? I didn't make this thread to require anyone to tell me their builds, but people have come in here and literally bragged about how amazing their superOP builds are without any evidence to back it up put forth. I am not asking for secrets, but extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. That's how science and research works.
Lots of players keep their combos to themselves because it gives them an edge. Knowing things other people don't know is always an edge.
The fact of the matter is that these problems that you claim are so pervasive simply aren't true for some players. You can accept that they're doing something right, and you're doing something wrong, or you can't. That's your limitation to deal with. Attacking the people who simply don't subscribe to your bias as if they're somehow arrogant for not holding your hand isn't going to make you a better nightblade either way.
And telling me I am a bad player for not using your spec isn't going to make you "right" for talking to me like you've done, either way.
Go read the nightblade class complaints other than mine. Then get back to me.Edited by martymart76_ESO on May 7, 2014 11:40PM1 -
MasterLanz✭✭✭martymart76_ESO wrote: »MasterLanz wrote: »martymart76_ESO wrote: »"Pour their secrets and combos out" to people? Secrets? Really? Like it's lost, forbidden, and ancient knowledge that gives them power they will somehow lose if they tell others? Come on... Are you serious or just arguing to argue? I didn't make this thread to require anyone to tell me their builds, but people have come in here and literally bragged about how amazing their superOP builds are without any evidence to back it up put forth. I am not asking for secrets, but extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. That's how science and research works.
Lots of players keep their combos to themselves because it gives them an edge. Knowing things other people don't know is always an edge.
The fact of the matter is that these problems that you claim are so pervasive simply aren't true for some players. You can accept that they're doing something right, and you're doing something wrong, or you can't. That's your limitation to deal with. Attacking the people who simply don't subscribe to your bias as if they're somehow arrogant for not holding your hand isn't going to make you a better nightblade either way.
And telling me I am a bad player for not using your spec isn't going to make you "right" for talking to me like you've done, either way.
Go read the nightblade class complaints other than mine. Then get back to me.
Except I never said anything about my spec. You're the one demanding people's specs as some kind of 'proof'. I never said you're a bad player for not using anyone's specs, either. Obviously you're more interested in putting words in other people's mouths and attacking the people who disagree with you.
You can go ahead and keep hating on Nightblade, though. I'm sure that'll solve your problems.Edited by MasterLanz on May 7, 2014 11:57PM2 -
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Can you somehow post these things without the green circle so I don't get my hopes up that you guys are actually responding to a player issue on your own forums?ZOS_CarolusS wrote: »Greetings everyone. This is a reminder that, while it is okay to have disagreements, we ask that all posts on our forums be respectful and constructive. Please avoid personal attacks and keep the discussion civil.
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martymart76_ESO✭✭✭MasterLanz wrote: »martymart76_ESO wrote: »MasterLanz wrote: »martymart76_ESO wrote: »"Pour their secrets and combos out" to people? Secrets? Really? Like it's lost, forbidden, and ancient knowledge that gives them power they will somehow lose if they tell others? Come on... Are you serious or just arguing to argue? I didn't make this thread to require anyone to tell me their builds, but people have come in here and literally bragged about how amazing their superOP builds are without any evidence to back it up put forth. I am not asking for secrets, but extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. That's how science and research works.
Lots of players keep their combos to themselves because it gives them an edge. Knowing things other people don't know is always an edge.
The fact of the matter is that these problems that you claim are so pervasive simply aren't true for some players. You can accept that they're doing something right, and you're doing something wrong, or you can't. That's your limitation to deal with. Attacking the people who simply don't subscribe to your bias as if they're somehow arrogant for not holding your hand isn't going to make you a better nightblade either way.
And telling me I am a bad player for not using your spec isn't going to make you "right" for talking to me like you've done, either way.
Go read the nightblade class complaints other than mine. Then get back to me.
Except I never said anything about my spec. You're the one demanding people's specs as some kind of 'proof'. I never said you're a bad player for not using anyone's specs, either. Obviously you're more interested in putting words in other people's mouths and attacking the people who disagree with you.
You can go ahead and keep hating on Nightblade, though. I'm sure that'll solve your problems.
I'm just glad you are here being destructive as I push for better class balance and bug fixes while you try and tear down my actions by attacking me as a player, for no other reason than to be a troll.6 -
unlimitedwarriorb14_ESOSoul Shrivenugh rogues do this in EVERY mmo, 'waaaah I cant win and do one hit kills with my stealth then run and hide Waaaah i dont know how to play" lrn2play glad Nightblades get recked1
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✭✭✭✭✭unlimitedwarriorb14_ESO wrote: »ugh rogues do this in EVERY mmo, 'waaaah I cant win and do one hit kills with my stealth then run and hide Waaaah i dont know how to play" lrn2play glad Nightblades get recked
What you fail to see here is that it isnt just the dual wield rogue-style nightblades that are complaining about being underpowered, or about the myriad of bugs that plague the class.
My nightblade uses a sword and shield, and I feel the bugs and weak abilities just as keenly as the assassin-type nightblades do.
I'm not saying that our AoE should be as powerful as dragonknights or sorcerors or templars, or that our self heals should be on the same level as dragon blood (which is in dire need of adjustment anyhow, since it is essentially immortality assuming you can keep your magicka bar from going empty), but I would like to be able to tackle packs of mobs with relatively the same amount of ease as any other class, and I would like to be able to survive more than two seconds in pvp like those other classes can.
Melee in general is severely hurting in this game, especially in pvp. That isnt just a nightblade issue - look at any other class that tries to use melee weapons, and you'll see that the bulk of their build's damage output is coming from spells, not weapon abilities.
Stamina and weapon damage need to be rethought by the devs, because right now that whole system is whack.PS4 / NA
M'asad - Khajiit Nightblade - Healer
Pakhet - Khajiit Dragonknight - Tank
Raksha - Khajiit Sorcerer - Stamina DPS
Bastet - Khajiit Templar - Healer
Leonin - Khajiit Warden - Tank4 -
The class under performs. It doesnt matter is one person says it is fine and thousands say it isnt. Numbers do not lie. They can see what it being used and what isnt.
Out of 15 class abilities, 7 are used. it could be because of bugs or something else, but there is no reason to use half of our abilities. There is no.... "Well I could mix this in and use this instead... I could try this..." No. That is how it is with a DK. I can mix and match using the same style of play changing it just a little bit. It should be the same way with the NB. I should be able to mix and match and be a little different. Have a little bit of a different play style. But I cant.
As the class gets higher in level, the worse the abilities get. (Minus Siphoning Strikes). Its not hard to play the NB because you never get anything new. Once you get Siphoning Strikes you can AOE with WW, Dark Path and Soul Tether. If you single target you just Dark Cloak/Veiled Strike. If you Bow you Siphoning Stikes/Magnum Shot.
I could go on and on about the most bland class in the game, but I wont. There is no need. You all could look at all the abilities you will never use and there are a lot of them. Just looking at those tells you what needs to be fixed.5 -
MasterLanz✭✭✭martymart76_ESO wrote: »MasterLanz wrote: »martymart76_ESO wrote: »MasterLanz wrote: »martymart76_ESO wrote: »"Pour their secrets and combos out" to people? Secrets? Really? Like it's lost, forbidden, and ancient knowledge that gives them power they will somehow lose if they tell others? Come on... Are you serious or just arguing to argue? I didn't make this thread to require anyone to tell me their builds, but people have come in here and literally bragged about how amazing their superOP builds are without any evidence to back it up put forth. I am not asking for secrets, but extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. That's how science and research works.
Lots of players keep their combos to themselves because it gives them an edge. Knowing things other people don't know is always an edge.
The fact of the matter is that these problems that you claim are so pervasive simply aren't true for some players. You can accept that they're doing something right, and you're doing something wrong, or you can't. That's your limitation to deal with. Attacking the people who simply don't subscribe to your bias as if they're somehow arrogant for not holding your hand isn't going to make you a better nightblade either way.
And telling me I am a bad player for not using your spec isn't going to make you "right" for talking to me like you've done, either way.
Go read the nightblade class complaints other than mine. Then get back to me.
Except I never said anything about my spec. You're the one demanding people's specs as some kind of 'proof'. I never said you're a bad player for not using anyone's specs, either. Obviously you're more interested in putting words in other people's mouths and attacking the people who disagree with you.
You can go ahead and keep hating on Nightblade, though. I'm sure that'll solve your problems.
I'm just glad you are here being destructive as I push for better class balance and bug fixes while you try and tear down my actions by attacking me as a player, for no other reason than to be a troll.
You're not 'pushing' for anything. We all know about the bugs, this thread doesn't change that. There have been dozens of bug threads about nightblades, so don't pretend you're doing some special service by making this thread. You're just venting like the rest are.
It's one thing to talk about the class bugs (which we all know about already), it's another thing to whinge about class balance while ignoring/dismissing/attacking the people who having success with Nightblades.3 -
martymart76_ESO✭✭✭MasterLanz wrote: »martymart76_ESO wrote: »MasterLanz wrote: »martymart76_ESO wrote: »MasterLanz wrote: »martymart76_ESO wrote: »"Pour their secrets and combos out" to people? Secrets? Really? Like it's lost, forbidden, and ancient knowledge that gives them power they will somehow lose if they tell others? Come on... Are you serious or just arguing to argue? I didn't make this thread to require anyone to tell me their builds, but people have come in here and literally bragged about how amazing their superOP builds are without any evidence to back it up put forth. I am not asking for secrets, but extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. That's how science and research works.
Lots of players keep their combos to themselves because it gives them an edge. Knowing things other people don't know is always an edge.
The fact of the matter is that these problems that you claim are so pervasive simply aren't true for some players. You can accept that they're doing something right, and you're doing something wrong, or you can't. That's your limitation to deal with. Attacking the people who simply don't subscribe to your bias as if they're somehow arrogant for not holding your hand isn't going to make you a better nightblade either way.
And telling me I am a bad player for not using your spec isn't going to make you "right" for talking to me like you've done, either way.
Go read the nightblade class complaints other than mine. Then get back to me.
Except I never said anything about my spec. You're the one demanding people's specs as some kind of 'proof'. I never said you're a bad player for not using anyone's specs, either. Obviously you're more interested in putting words in other people's mouths and attacking the people who disagree with you.
You can go ahead and keep hating on Nightblade, though. I'm sure that'll solve your problems.
I'm just glad you are here being destructive as I push for better class balance and bug fixes while you try and tear down my actions by attacking me as a player, for no other reason than to be a troll.
You're not 'pushing' for anything. We all know about the bugs, this thread doesn't change that. There have been dozens of bug threads about nightblades, so don't pretend you're doing some special service by making this thread. You're just venting like the rest are.
It's one thing to talk about the class bugs (which we all know about already), it's another thing to whinge about class balance while ignoring/dismissing/attacking the people who having success with Nightblades.
Look.
Joining a discussion where people are having a difficult time with a spec or class, and bragging incessantly about how amazing their spec and dps and skill is, and not offering any proof, any reasoning, or any skill selection behind it, is just crass.
And that's the whole reason you are even posting. Not to be constructive, but to be destructive.6 -
Chryos✭✭✭✭"PEOPLE REROLLING AND LEAVING GAME OVER NIGHTBLADE BROKEN/UNDERPOWERED"
Kinda like how the media operates... makes it seem like everyone is leaving. My NB is powerful still, but then again, I never relied on using a skill I knew was broken and would be fixed later.If I am going to quote someone, it's going to be me.0 -
MasterLanz✭✭✭martymart76_ESO wrote: »MasterLanz wrote: »martymart76_ESO wrote: »MasterLanz wrote: »martymart76_ESO wrote: »MasterLanz wrote: »martymart76_ESO wrote: »"Pour their secrets and combos out" to people? Secrets? Really? Like it's lost, forbidden, and ancient knowledge that gives them power they will somehow lose if they tell others? Come on... Are you serious or just arguing to argue? I didn't make this thread to require anyone to tell me their builds, but people have come in here and literally bragged about how amazing their superOP builds are without any evidence to back it up put forth. I am not asking for secrets, but extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. That's how science and research works.
Lots of players keep their combos to themselves because it gives them an edge. Knowing things other people don't know is always an edge.
The fact of the matter is that these problems that you claim are so pervasive simply aren't true for some players. You can accept that they're doing something right, and you're doing something wrong, or you can't. That's your limitation to deal with. Attacking the people who simply don't subscribe to your bias as if they're somehow arrogant for not holding your hand isn't going to make you a better nightblade either way.
And telling me I am a bad player for not using your spec isn't going to make you "right" for talking to me like you've done, either way.
Go read the nightblade class complaints other than mine. Then get back to me.
Except I never said anything about my spec. You're the one demanding people's specs as some kind of 'proof'. I never said you're a bad player for not using anyone's specs, either. Obviously you're more interested in putting words in other people's mouths and attacking the people who disagree with you.
You can go ahead and keep hating on Nightblade, though. I'm sure that'll solve your problems.
I'm just glad you are here being destructive as I push for better class balance and bug fixes while you try and tear down my actions by attacking me as a player, for no other reason than to be a troll.
You're not 'pushing' for anything. We all know about the bugs, this thread doesn't change that. There have been dozens of bug threads about nightblades, so don't pretend you're doing some special service by making this thread. You're just venting like the rest are.
It's one thing to talk about the class bugs (which we all know about already), it's another thing to whinge about class balance while ignoring/dismissing/attacking the people who having success with Nightblades.
Look.
Joining a discussion where people are having a difficult time with a spec or class, and bragging incessantly about how amazing their spec and dps and skill is, and not offering any proof, any reasoning, or any skill selection behind it, is just crass.
And that's the whole reason you are even posting. Not to be constructive, but to be destructive.
The purpose of this thread was nothing constructive either. If anything it's purely negative. What have you honestly said in this thread that was constructive? That helps anyone in any way other than a place to vent? At least the people who disagree point out that the class is not as bleak as some complain it is.
The players who actually want to be constructive go to the Guides section of the forums where players give builds and tips to each other. There's nothing constructive about a complaints thread. Get off your high horse, you're not doing anything noble here.
Edited by MasterLanz on May 8, 2014 3:16AM0 -
Adramelach✭✭✭The problem as I see it, isn't as much the classes, but the PvE and when applicable, the PvP mechanics don't allow for too many variations of approach. I've tried getting going on a NB, but I've been annoyed at the many times when I would have *wanted* to use heavy stealth to sneak in to some place, pick off enemies 1 by 1 quietly, etc. - basically be that archetype - but the AI and map build essentially *requires* that I instead take on some mob in direct combat because there's simply no possible way to get around them or not aggro the lot of them, since they're "linked" and if you attract one, you automatically get the bunch.
I feel that the map/level build, and the AI and mechanics of the game should explicitly allow for more variations of approach and thus *allow* for more interesting and creative, non-generic builds to work as intended, by not essentially requiring a certain approach. I've settled into Sorceror now as it seems "streamlined" to handle the PvE scenarios, anyway, having a build that fits into what the game will allow me to do. I'd actually prefer a more stealthy, "ninja-like" approach, but I keep getting shut down by the game, which seems to not appreciate that style of play in many cases.
PvP I've not yet tried attempting that kind of build, and of course you don't have an AI issue at that point as much, but you do have mechanics of stealth and flank/surprise rules and such that would either support, or negate, that style of approach, etc.
So, in short, it's fine to discuss the skills/abilities themselves, but I think the other side of the equation is a "world system" that supports approaches and styles of play. If every time you sneeze, you aggro a huge mob to you, then you can't really effectively play an archetype that lacks CC and AoE - it's just pragmatic. If you *can* get through all the content and use alternative approaches to creatively avoid getting into that situation, wonderful, then the archetype will fly. Same for other concepts.4 -
Loco_Mofo✭✭✭✭✭"PEOPLE REROLLING AND LEAVING GAME OVER NIGHTBLADE BROKEN/UNDERPOWERED"
Kinda like how the media operates... makes it seem like everyone is leaving. My NB is powerful still, but then again, I never relied on using a skill I knew was broken and would be fixed later.
Such a sensationalist title.
People aren't re-rolling/leaving in droves because of a few bugged skills/passives/tool tips.
How do you expect to be taken seriously when you blow things out of proportion?
Sure NB has some issues, it's my main and I would love to have these looked at. Guess what? Zeni are doing just that in upcoming patches, crisis averted I guess...0 -
Jarnhand✭✭✭martymart76_ESO wrote: »I just want to clarify: I did not leave the Nightblade class because it felt buggy, or difficult or any of these things, although I have had insane amounts of trouble killing certain mobs in certain places on that character than on my others...
No, it wasn't that it felt buggy or that it was too difficult. It is that the class basically feels like a one trick pony. It has very little variety or variation. There's like 3 builds...the dual wield assassin build I had going on....the ranged version of that and the "Bloodmage" that a few people have invented different variations of.
That's about it. healer, ranged DPS or melee DPS (basically the same just depends on how far from your enemies you are, really). It just feel limited in this respect.
Sure you could probably be a tank, or a ranged caster magicka based DPS or something...but do you ever hear about anyone talking about these? Not really...probably because they're subpar options and might as well be a Sorcerer or a Dragon Knight to do those things with a much easier time.
That is a lot more then in most / all other similar MMOs, in ESO you have MANY more spec options then other games. So I am not sure what you are not happy about when it comes to this point.
Something that needs fixing is the bugs, but that is clearly another issue.
PS! Do not fall in the trap where you think a NB should be able to pop out of stealth, kill more or less anyone and vanish again. That is not gonna happen, that is called broken game mechanics, and if it does, a nerf will follow shortly.
As opposed to a Sorcerer who can just waltz into a group of 6 enemies and lay down AE's and destroy them all in less than 4 seconds and not have to vanish and takes no damage, and if they do they blink away and can heal it anyway.
Yeah....how dare NB's want that kind of power every other class has.
1- I do NOT play a Sorc
2- If all classes were the same, there would be no point to classes.
3- Typical rogue classes are single target high damage, but soft targets themselves, but with escape options. Casters are also soft targets, but also have the choice of area damage.
4- To me it seems you want every class to be the same, which they arent. You may not write this, but reading what you write its what it logically add up to.
5- NB skills need to be fixed, and may well end up being too powerful, 2 shotting casters, and then get nerfed. So be careful what you ask for.
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✭I know most are not like me. I'm playing through with my NB Vamp. No passives and a whole patch worth of broken skills. I've been gaming and pvp'n for a long time though. I keep telling myself "when the fix patch hits you'll be even better!"
Most will tell themselves "this is some ***. I'm not paying to play a broken toon!"Edited by TheBull on May 8, 2014 6:29AMKilled by Sunshine 1vX How I see it.
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CanhSoul ShrivenThe Patch is going to fix everything? First of all i love to see the Patch Notes that Shows what the hell they fix, cause the only thing i see is Minor NB fixes.
And for People telling Crap like we might be OP after the Buffs and get nerf.
I rather Play with a nerfed Skill than a Broken.
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ConciseRex✭✭Until stuff gets patched I think that groups refusing to take a nightblade because he is a medium armour dual weilder is silly on there part. I love dungeons with my single target build as with everyone else having large AOE and good CC, me going in with AOE wouldn't make a massive difference. With the enemy's being spammed by pulse or whatever from the other guys I use my high single target damage output to dispatch of healers before the combat even begins and to pick off any enemys (usually archers) that have strayed outwith the AOE range. Although my stun lock method will be inaffective on bosses my Suprise attack still lowers his armour (even better if it stacks with puncture but I don't know) and both the Veil of Blades ULT and it's morph and Soul Shred (the healing morph?) Are very good support abilities.0 -
MasterLanz✭✭✭ConciseRex wrote: »Until stuff gets patched I think that groups refusing to take a nightblade because he is a medium armour dual weilder is silly on there part. I love dungeons with my single target build as with everyone else having large AOE and good CC, me going in with AOE wouldn't make a massive difference. With the enemy's being spammed by pulse or whatever from the other guys I use my high single target damage output to dispatch of healers before the combat even begins and to pick off any enemys (usually archers) that have strayed outwith the AOE range. Although my stun lock method will be inaffective on bosses my Suprise attack still lowers his armour (even better if it stacks with puncture but I don't know) and both the Veil of Blades ULT and it's morph and Soul Shred (the healing morph?) Are very good support abilities.
Has anyone actually ever refused you in a group based on your class? I hear people say it like it might happen, but it's never happened to me or anyone else I've ever talked to.
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ConciseRex✭✭MasterLanz wrote: »
Has anyone actually ever refused you in a group based on your class? I hear people say it like it might happen, but it's never happened to me or anyone else I've ever talked to.
I haven't been turned away first hand but in a lot of these posts about NB being poor at AOE and CC people claim they are rejected or overlooked because people like to take 3 AOE builds and a healer to speed run dungeons.0 -
neocomab16_ESO✭✭✭I hated dungeons as a NB single target nuker. I constantly died in trash mob fights because tanking simply doesnt work in this game. Med armor = squishy NB. In boss fights, enrage timers were so tight that I had to burst my way through ...and if the tank didnt taunt early enough, boss turned at me, hit me, I died. It is just no fun
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ConciseRex✭✭neocomab16_ESO wrote: »I hated dungeons as a NB single target nuker. I constantly died in trash mob fights because tanking simply doesnt work in this game. Med armor = squishy NB. In boss fights, enrage timers were so tight that I had to burst my way through ...and if the tank didnt taunt early enough, boss turned at me, hit me, I died. It is just no fun
Well my nuke consists of shadow cloak> Suprise attack but I always have leeching strikes active so my Magika is never too low and this means if in a trash mob I start to take too much dmg or pull too much aggro (rarely happens as the AOE guys seem to pull the whole mob) then I pop shadow cloak and back away until the tank jumps in or the healer heals me. If you are really bugged about medium armour being squishy (which I don't find an issue) have immovable on your bar for trash mobs as even tho it is a heavy armour skill for some reason you don't need to be wearing heavy armour to use it.
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gunsofdeschain✭✭✭I'm giving them one month of sub. If by the end of the next pay cycle nothing has been done about the completely bugged nightblade stuff, I am done with this game. I'm barely entertained by the VR questing as it is, and being a NB and seeing almost everyone but me blitz through mobs is getting old.
This is one game where I'll never ever play more than one toon and I'm way too heavily invested in my NB already. So, yeah. One month. Hope things turn around.2 -
gunsofdeschain✭✭✭And BTW, which GENIUS decided that a STEALTH class wearing STAMINA regen focused MEDIUM armour should have ALL their class skills be MAGIC based?
I mean W T F!? Really W T F. I don't understand. Like what?! So I have to spread all my skill points around and be a piece of turd that does puny damage and run out of stam/magic all the damn time. I don;t even know.Edited by gunsofdeschain on May 8, 2014 11:53AM3 -
martymart76_ESO✭✭✭You'll notice that most people attack you as a person and a player when you point out things wrong with the class that you want to love, as if you are just some evil force trying to destroy their fun class.
Have I been denied groups for being a NB? Not yet. But I don't know if any of you are familiar with Skrilla, a VR10 NB who makes great contributions to the Tamriel Foundry nightblade forum thread, but you should look him up and read what he has to say.
He has used addons and parsings to echo exactly what I have said here and shows how horrible the build variety is for nightblades versus all the other classes.
Nobody here is asking to have the same abilities and same way of playing and to be the same as every other class...I am just asking that the abilities be BALANCED and work properly so that I can compete with every other class.
In a game where spec variety is encouraged and you are supposed to be able to "play how you want," there sure are a lot of attacks against me and others who are trying to do that.
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I didn't get to respond to you about my build yesterday, but I think the best option would be for you to visit Tamriel Foundry and check out the Class and Nightblade sub sections. There are lots of builds with in-depth discussion on the mechanics of the build and these can help you understand why certain skills are included and others are not.
I don't have a problem giving you my build, but you would need to realize that it is not only the skills/abilities that make up a build. I'm wearing 2 different armor sets that allows me to utilize my build properly, certain attribute point breakdown, eat certain food, and have specific potions that all make my build possible.
These discussions are probably too long for a thread like this and is the reason Tamriel Foundry exists.
Good luck and free free to PM if you need anything. Although, I haven't been checking this board much, lately.
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Nidwin✭✭✭Pure rogue stealthy NB's have the same issues as us, Heal/Support Templars in PVE.
The only 2 options are
1. Roll a build that let you solo most of the stuff.
2. Group up with a Heal/Support Templar for the tough PVE stuff.Nidwinqq Templar (healzzz) United Warhammer Vets
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EnderhawkSoul ShrivenMaverick827 wrote: »
Can you somehow post these things without the green circle so I don't get my hopes up that you guys are actually responding to a player issue on your own forums?ZOS_CarolusS wrote: »Greetings everyone. This is a reminder that, while it is okay to have disagreements, we ask that all posts on our forums be respectful and constructive. Please avoid personal attacks and keep the discussion civil.
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+1, wasted time going through another obvious topic just to see the rebuke.
There are literally dozens of topics about NB weakness and bugs; yet this is the only one with Zenimax response.
Still just a finger menace.
Edited by Enderhawk on May 8, 2014 3:05PM1 -
ahspear37✭✭First off, let me say that I'm not here to troll anyone or brag about my build. I personally have not hit Veteran level content so it's not like I have much to brag about anyway, and I find trolling utterly useless.
That being said, I absolutely love my NB. I completely agree with everyone on here saying that they need to have their bugs fixed, I also wouldn't mind a buff to a couple of of the skills that are pretty much useless in my eyes. However, here is my experience with my NB:
I am specced as a Bloodmage, so a healer/support NB with a Resto staff that primarily uses healing skills and siphoning tree skills (I do have a "multiple mob" skill bar for my alternate swap that uses Shadow skills too). So far, I have been loving the gameplay. It's cool to "out-think" and outmaneuver mobs. I also have actually been having trouble rolling any other class besides a NB, probably because I am really good at playing a leecher and I don't like to rely heavily on potions.
In group dungeons, I am usually sought after because I can back up the DPS, then recover magicka with my Resto staff and backup the healer. I have been asked several times to be friends with new people so that they can PM me for future group dungeon runs. I actually feel useful! lol
But I totally understand what everyone means when they say the class isn't functioning as intended. I am fortunate enough to not rely on many of the skills that are bugged/broken/useless, but I would generally be excited to use them if they were fixed/buffed/made relevant.
I'm not here to take the *** out of anyone's argument, I understand that the mechanics are not up to par with every other class, I'm just saying that from my personal experience I've had more fun playing as a Bloodmage than as a DK, a Templar, or a Sorc. Perhaps I just rolled those three classes wrong, but from what I've been hearing they are almost impossible to roll incorrectly because they are pretty well balanced and functioning as intended.
While the Nightblade may not be balanced like the rest of the classes, the particular Bloodmage build I have for mine has been nothing but fun! I am sure that will change as I go into vet content and things get way harder, but for now I love the strategic feel of my build, and how I can almost always out-think mobs and that while I do die, it's only usually because I had the wrong approach to take on an enemy.
That's just my opinion though.Breton Bloodmage
Breton Templar Crusader
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martymart76_ESO✭✭✭First off, let me say that I'm not here to troll anyone or brag about my build. I personally have not hit Veteran level content so it's not like I have much to brag about anyway, and I find trolling utterly useless.
That being said, I absolutely love my NB. I completely agree with everyone on here saying that they need to have their bugs fixed, I also wouldn't mind a buff to a couple of of the skills that are pretty much useless in my eyes. However, here is my experience with my NB:
I am specced as a Bloodmage, so a healer/support NB with a Resto staff that primarily uses healing skills and siphoning tree skills (I do have a "multiple mob" skill bar for my alternate swap that uses Shadow skills too). So far, I have been loving the gameplay. It's cool to "out-think" and outmaneuver mobs. I also have actually been having trouble rolling any other class besides a NB, probably because I am really good at playing a leecher and I don't like to rely heavily on potions.
In group dungeons, I am usually sought after because I can back up the DPS, then recover magicka with my Resto staff and backup the healer. I have been asked several times to be friends with new people so that they can PM me for future group dungeon runs. I actually feel useful! lol
But I totally understand what everyone means when they say the class isn't functioning as intended. I am fortunate enough to not rely on many of the skills that are bugged/broken/useless, but I would generally be excited to use them if they were fixed/buffed/made relevant.
I'm not here to take the *** out of anyone's argument, I understand that the mechanics are not up to par with every other class, I'm just saying that from my personal experience I've had more fun playing as a Bloodmage than as a DK, a Templar, or a Sorc. Perhaps I just rolled those three classes wrong, but from what I've been hearing they are almost impossible to roll incorrectly because they are pretty well balanced and functioning as intended.
While the Nightblade may not be balanced like the rest of the classes, the particular Bloodmage build I have for mine has been nothing but fun! I am sure that will change as I go into vet content and things get way harder, but for now I love the strategic feel of my build, and how I can almost always out-think mobs and that while I do die, it's only usually because I had the wrong approach to take on an enemy.
That's just my opinion though.
That's good man. i am glad you are having fun. But I don't want to be a bloodmage. I chose the Nightblade to be an assassin hit and run stealth hard hitter. And thank you for coming here and making your case and not being a total jerk about it like many.
And it currently doesn't function for that very well at all.0