What DK doesn't want 100% up time on Corrosive in pvp. Bahhahaahahahahahaaaaaa.......

this type of design as a 5pc genuinely worries me regarding the winter's embrace line as i know without a doubt it'll have some sort of tanking related bonus when the line serves 2 roles as both a tanking line and a major thematic dps line.
we already have enough 5 piece item sets. I would have thought it'd be more interesting and fun to create them as 3 piece item sets to potentially match them with other bonuses.

Yeah, this worries me as well, especially for sorc since with the devs have constantly forced sorc more and more into pets for everything. It is massively concerning that they will make the sets for the storm calling (well they already have made this set trash on initial reveal) and dark magic lines completely garbage while making the pet set so strong it forces sorc even further into pets making no-pet sorc even more extinct than it is now.

TBH, doing that with the sorc class sets would just kill all interest in the game for me. My preferred playstyle of my favourite (and main) class is already long dead and has been for years now, but its like they aren't even trying let it exist in any capacity, let alone bring it back, even at a bottom tier level, since any time a way is found to make it usable, they immediately kill off or rework that skill (mines, weapon, AoE frags, etc) to kill off the no-pet playstyle all over again and keep it dead.

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I absolutely love the idea of class specific sets, I hope they add more of them! It's a step closer to restoring unique class identity that is so lacking in this game.

some of it is just bad. the sorc set in particular is not good. dps sets that only 1 person can run are not good. they are bad.

others feels like they are for the wrong class.

take the nightblade set and give it to the templar on ardant flame and it's amazing. like super good. from 50% you cut ults from your rotation and from 40% you start beaming. it's eating ult and doing more damage and you're banking ult and going ham. it makes sense with how templars work in execute.

instead templar get a regen / burst set. why? put that on sorc with dark magic though and every X number of *** procs and then you get 10 seconds of burst. or you can go frags as spammable to get more out of it. that makes sense right? mag sorc has sustain issues because they have so few stam options especially if you're running 5 or 6pc medium, which is the meta. this all makes sense.

the dk set is just wrong. someone missed the memo that major and minor heroism is too much on dk. and if they change it to just major heroism i swear i'll lose my mind. they already run heroism pots guys. just, what are you thinking? stop it! bad zos!

i don't know what the objective is with the nightblade set. is it a healer set? is it a dps set? it's not good for either of them. just run julianos and be better at everything and not be locked into certain skills and restricted on ult use.

Galeriano wrote: »

DK set gets more hype than it deserves.

Major and Minor Heroism on a class with an ult that effectively makes you super tanky and ignore all enemy resistances is overhyped?

And on top of that extra healing on backbar.

fizzylu wrote: »

Jierdanit wrote: »

Instead of creating new Item sets that no one is going to use with every patch they should use that time to actually make the existing sets useful.

Currently when im making a build i am looking at maybe 15 to 20 different Sets that could be useful for that particular build.
That is for everything, including Monster Sets, Mythics, Arena Weapons and regular Sets.
It is ridiculous that there is hundreds of sets in the game and probably 75% of them are completely useless for anything outside of roleplaying.

Yeah, I seriously wish they would call it quits with all the sets. I've been running the same sets on my main for years now and all of them are 5 or more years old, which is truly sad considering how many sets they add to the game every year.... and what's tragic is imagining the amount of resources they put into them, despite the majority of players probably never even touching most of the new sets. Zenimax just seems so stuck in their ways. I do appreciate that they don't leave some features to gather dust and expand upon them every chapter/DLC.... antiquities, companions, sets.... but I think the situation with sets got out of hand chapters ago and the game could really benefit from a different approach to "new combat options" every major update. My preference would be to see them take things like proc set ideas and make them into new abilities for current skill lines. It always bummed me out that things like the mages and fighters guild never had more added to them, and that the thieves and dark brotherhood never got combat skills built into them. It's wild how many sets are in the game and how few skills there are to choose from and play with, because while I've been running the same sets for years.... I've also been running the same skills.... and sometimes combat gets really old because of that.

This has been my general sentiment these last few years. I would really like more combat skill options instead of sets being the only way to 'build' and flesh out your character. I feel like the Champion Point system has failed in that regard as well; it doesn't really change how you approach battle because they nerfed anything that stood out until it was all virtually the same, but that's probably just a symptom of aggressive spreadsheet balancing.

Finedaible wrote: »

I feel like the Champion Point system has failed in that regard as well; it doesn't really change how you approach battle because they nerfed anything that stood out until it was all virtually the same, but that's probably just a symptom of aggressive spreadsheet balancing.

Oh yeah, I would go as far as saying that I hate the champion point system. It's feels like pointless padding, a false sense of endgame progression.... especially since they reworked it awhile back. Before it at least felt like I was somewhat making progress and unlocking passives that benefited me, but now with the "swap in/swap out" situation.... I don't see the point in grinding cp to unlock everything. I just change the points around as needed and champion points mean nothing to me anymore. And seriously, some of the passives needing to be equipped is just nonsense to begin with. Like why can't I have reduced time for a fish to bite, food/drink buffs that last a little longer, and fenced goods be worth a bit more at all times no questions asked? What is this restriction for? It's honestly just stupid. Then since most of the cp trees are passives, it doesn't actually make your gameplay feel fresh. I always have been a flat stats over proc person too.... so every combat related champion point passive I run is just more spell damage, health, and etc (again, why do things like these even need to be equipped).

I enjoy GW2's mastery system way more, and despite not being an endgame progression system, even WoW's new talent trees that came out a while back are way more fun to play around with and actually impact my gameplay significantly more than ESO's cp system. Fair to mention GW2's elite specializations here as well since they are an endgame grind and can change up your playstyle quite a bit by giving you access to different weapons and abilities.

All I can say is that from the looks of these class sets I think Arcanist and Necro needs to be redone.

For the necro one: While necro does not have class access to Minor Resolve, they do already have access to Minor Protection. Also, the “treating yourself as a corpse” thing is too vague to be excited about.

Arcanist set: All the buffs you get depending on crux spent you can already get with other Arcanist abilities so this set is almost useless. 1 crux- numerous abilities (Chakram, Shield ult) already give allies a shield so meh. 2 crux- audacious Runemend already gives minor heroism. 3 crux- glyphic ult already gives Major Protection if it’s at full health.

I love all the proposed class sets. They mean I don't have to even think about changing up my current sets since none of them look any good at all to me.

J18696 wrote: »

I honestly think the bigger issue with dk is corrosive not the new set but it's still a very strong set and eclipses any of the other class sets

Even without Corrosive the class is ahead of the rest. I've written loads about it but until something is done with Undeath the problem will persist. Should be telling enough that sDK is considered S Tier but a recap from one has nothing in common with how it looked from 2015 to 2021. I'm a 5 star / Xbox day 1 sDK and I made this lovely poll:

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/628489/dk-needs-a-13-damage-nerf

Maybe Corrosive is going to get the nerf sledge hammer so Zos doesnt think the sets a big deal.

On the other hand, almost every update has a set thats seemingly OP until it gets nerfed into uselessness before its released.

Sleep724 wrote: »

Maybe Corrosive is going to get the nerf sledge hammer so Zos doesnt think the sets a big deal.

On the other hand, almost every update has a set thats seemingly OP until it gets nerfed into uselessness before its released.

I don't know, I play a DK and I'm going to love jumping around flapping my wings all over the place. With this thing I can ultimate almost constantly. No need for corrosive, the shield and sustain on leap will be awesome. 😁