It just hurts my fingers, so I hardly ever bother.

Lag is also a factor, along with bar swapping.
No idea if it's worse for console users with pads rather than keyboards, but at times, the rate of light attacks just not happening is stupid.
When it works, it works!! when it doesn't (persistently, over months), you give in and give everyone heavy attack builds!

I have a friend in my solo guild i regularly help with wb dailies and the like, so i am familiar with this issue. I just didn't immediately associate it with light weaving when i started this post. Sorry to those that are suffering in the game, you have my sympathy.

I understand how to do it, and can sometimes manage it, but like other disabled players it greatly increases the chronic pain in my hands, wrists, and forearms. It can also trigger inflammation attacks from one of my autoimmune disorders which can cause my hands to swell so immensely that I am unable to bend my fingers. Finally, there are times when muscle spasms greatly reduce my ability to control the movements of my fingers, and "faster" movements like those needed by LA weaving are more likely to cause muscle spasms in my hands.

I do know players who will not use LA weaving because they consider it exploiting a broken aspect of the game code, no different from another exploit that has never been fixed. It's simply one that's become so inherent to DPS playstyles that it's now accepted by the general playe rbase and the devs alike. I don't hold this view, but I do understand their argument.

Funnily enough people that I have shown how to LA weave they were previously trying to hit the attack and skill too fast. Getting them to slow down really increased their output

It looks dumb. Imagine a person swinging a sword like that in real life 🤣 people would thinking they’re having a stroke

I don't have the best internet or hardware, so the lag is super frustrating and the main reason I've never really put a lot of time and effort into bettering my LA weaving.

I'm with you, SlyReynard, I don't feel like I'm missing out on too much. I def would not attempt a trifecta trial, mostly because I know my limits lol, but I have been able to do plenty of vets (even some HMs, no deaths, etc.) with friends and have lots of fun regardless!

(Once did March of Sacrifices on HM, dropping every like 5 seconds and reconnecting so quickly my character never died, and I actually did manage to finally get that beast personality! I won't say it wasn't frustrating as heck, but it wasn't ESO's fault ... and it felt super good to get it in the end.)

It’s not difficult. It just sucks and isn’t fun. It causes repetitive motion injury. It wears out your mice and controllers. And again, it’s just not fun.

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Are people clicking once per skill? I ask because there was a popular myth that light attack weaving was performed by spamming clicks all the time. 1 Hz click rate is not difficult IMO, but 5-10 Hz does sound painful.

With all the lag one click per cast isn't always enough, that's true. That's why some people just use clickers that spam lmb while being pressed - you only need 1 click per skill this way, much less painful. Should be a feature in the game tbh

I've been taking a break from ESO lately and playing WoW again, and it feels great not having to use my mouse for anything except character movement, and not having my DPS be reliant on how fast I can click my left mouse button with my right hand while hitting a key with my left hand.

Carpal tunnel in both wrists, cubital tunnel left arm, and Dupuytren's on left hand

I rely on addons and "fast attack" mouse button to help me in ESO, it works well but I top out around 115k because I can't manage to get down to the 0.75-0.8s weaving times needed to get into the 120s-130s. The addon and mouse combo can't beat a human who is really good at LA weaving, but it gets you close enough to do all but the very hardest content.

There are addons that can help you by not allowing you to trigger a skill unless a LA has been performed. You can also get a good gaming mouse to go with that has software that works with a "fast attack" or "trigger" button. I keep mine set to the button just above and to the left of LMB, and set the timer around 100-250 ms. Then you can just hold that button down with one finger and focus on hitting your 1-5 keys or whatever you have set up for your action bars.

With my heavy attack mag sorc I top out around 90k on parse, but it's much easier to play in content than traditional two-bar builds.

When I was learning to weave I ended up in the habit of just tapping the right trigger (I play controller on PC) before casting any ability, even to a point where I don't need to or shouldn't (like buffing in a town and accidentally light attacking a guard). Even when ping is bad it doesn't require multiple hits, the animation is just cancelled by the ability.

i feel the same way, part of the reason why i love playing Nightblade is that it's incredibly satisfying to get a good parse going and seeing the numbers fly up.

but it isn't for everyone, obviously. lag is one thing, but the mechanical involvement in weaving is unlike anything seen before in these games where resource/ability management is more important. going from WoW to ESO must be like moving to a different country. i don't blame anyone for disliking it, especially if you have health complications that are impacting your gameplay.

Ping to the server and it’s affect on light attack weaving remains, perhaps ESO’s biggest elephant in the room. This is a big reason they came up with heavy attack builds and Velothi Ur.