Unfortunately, in game behavior tends to reflect who they really are. Fortunately, there are far more willing to assist others than step on them.

ghastley wrote: »

There are those for whom winning is everything.

And there are also those for whom making someone else lose is everything.

The philosophy of "He who dies with the most toys, wins."

Sarannah wrote: »

MajThorax wrote: »

Chest stealing is not polite behaviour but it's what zos wanted. Otherwise, when we break a lockpick we would immediately be able to use another one, without exiting the mini game screen.

Actually, breaking a lockpick does NOT exit the lockpicking screen. It takes a few seconds to grab another lockpick though. I always pick locks manually, and only lose one lockpick about every week or so. But it never exits the lockpickscreen when I do break one.

This occurs if one is attempting to force the lock.

DragonRacer wrote: »

Sarannah wrote: »

MajThorax wrote: »

Chest stealing is not polite behaviour but it's what zos wanted. Otherwise, when we break a lockpick we would immediately be able to use another one, without exiting the mini game screen.

Actually, breaking a lockpick does NOT exit the lockpicking screen. It takes a few seconds to grab another lockpick though. I always pick locks manually, and only lose one lockpick about every week or so. But it never exits the lockpickscreen when I do break one.

This occurs if one is attempting to force the lock.

Then... maybe... don't force it?

Sarannah wrote: »

Some people are rude like that, just ignore them and move along. It is not worth the time. The only time it really pisses me off, is when I am running towards a resource/chest, and they run directly through me to take it first. In that case they 100% know they are taking something someone else was going for, and there is no excuse.

Personally I always walk away when I see someone go towards a resource or chest(it's actually funny if we both walk away at the same time). It does sometimes happen that me and another player both run around a corner at the same time without seeing eachother, in that case I always feel bad when I take it. And I would never wait at a chest for someone to fail(most players don't), though sometimes it may look like that as I didn't see that player near it and simply approached the chest. But once I see them, I walk away, doesn't matter if they fail or not.

This is also an indirect cause of add-ons, some players have an optimized farming route and will feel any resource/chest on that route is theirs. Even if you were going to that resource/chest first, or if you are fighting the mob near it.

Just don't let it bother you, things like this happen sometimes. But luckily enough, they hardly ever happen.

PS: Keep in mind, sometimes it is an accident. As lag can sometimes show players in different places, due to a few seconds delay.
PPS: If I see someone is a CP 160-500, I always point chests out to them, so they can take it. As they might still be gearing. (below CP 160 I take the chest unless they are already going for it ofcourse, because it is pointless to spawn the gear at such a low level)

I have to agree, the both of us walking away is funny .....

That said, sometimes the way the game targets also has an effect ..... I once saw a chest from a distance, and while running that way, clicked on it..... and then the guy fighting the mob loaded in..... but, my character was already zipping past .... I didn't pick, but the other guy rode off... so I assume he thought I had grabbed it.

That was only once, but there are a lot of players on at once, so I always prefer to assume that it is similar if someone grabs a chest I was fighting for......

As for spawning gear --- level doesn't matter with the stickerbook, and chests do provide overland sets ..... so, sometimes, I do leave them for lower levels in the area, and will even clear the mobs and call it out for them.....

I work on the principle that as long as I am doing my best to be a decent person, then I am accomplishing something. I can't control the actions of others, anyways, so may as well focus on what I can do.

Auldwulfe

It seems like bad planning to establish any situation that can create conflict among the playerbase, such as making chests "stealable". There should be a short period of about 5 seconds after a fail for another attempt before the chest becomes public again.

As far as i can gather to some generations politeness is not a thing at all, so theres that, i got full used to it back on console they had no scruples there.

It's honestly normal and nothing you can do about it. I have a platinum loop that is near perfect and is actually quite small, just in a corner of a map somewhere. It's good because the resource nodes start respawning after I grab the last one in the loop, allowing me to freely re-loop every time. Absolutely hate it when others breaks and messes this up though, or magically grabs a resource node despite being behind me when I got it to first... Just let me do my stupid loops man, I absolutely hate the grind but I have jewelry to legendary, ya know? I'm literally in a small corner and am ignoring the rest of the zone.

My rule is if you see it first, it's yours. But if it's a tie, we racing.

I_killed_Vivec wrote: »

Ishtarknows wrote: »

I don't mind people taking "my" chest if I don't manage to open it first time, that's what the cooldown mech is for, but it annoys me no end when people leave their trash in a chest or node. That's much worse.
I've seen this a lot in Craglorn during this event, I see resource nodes that others have picked over and left half empty - I'm farming on a max level crafter, over 160CP I shouldn't be seeing level 1 nodes and yet there they are.
Oh look, a cornflower... No wait, it's crawlers and no flower etc. Just what everyone wants to get /s
Please clean up your trash behind you people!

I don't know, but I've been told, that it doesn't affect the respawn rate, so it isn't like it will sit there forever until someone takes the worms.

I always take the worms in any case - I need them for fishing.

And people who leave mundane runes? Don't they know they are leaving 1K gold behind?

Leaving a partially-emptied node or chest behind doesn't prevent it from eventually respawning, but in a sense it does slow down the respawn rate because it won't respawn until a little while after it has either despawned on its own or been fully emptied, so taking everything from it will help it respawn sooner-- except that (as I understand it) there's no guarantee a chest or node will be respawned at that particular location, since the game might respawn one at some other location in the zone.

Presumably that's why nodes seem to respawn much sooner in the starter zones, because starter zones are smaller than the other zones so there are fewer potential locations for the game to choose between when deciding where to respawn the next node, since (as I understand it) the game tries to ensure that there are a certain number of nodes and chests available at any given time for players to harvest or loot.

The best thing anyone can do when they encounter a partially-emptied node or chest is to keep their cool and take whatever was left in it so it can respawn sooner. It seems that some players leave things behind on purpose, presumably just to troll the rest of the playerbase, because I've seen players who actually have a character with a name like "Leaves-One-Item-In-Chests." [Edit: That is intended to be just a made-up example, so if that is anyone's actual character name, I apologize for using it as an example. Also, it's possible that a player might create a name such as that simply to be funny, even though they don't actually do that themselves-- in other words, the character name is meant as just a light-hearted trolling of sorts, and not as a publuc announcement of any actual "bad" behavior on their part.] However, not everyone has ESO Plus, and I know from personal experience that if you don't have ESO Plus and have no more empty slots in your inventory, you're likely to end up leaving things behind simply because all of your slots that have that item in them have already been topped off.

It's funny, but back before I got ESO Plus, I would sometimes take only the "trash" items from nodes and leave everything else behind, because I had decided to top off those stacks in my inventory such that I had 200 Mundane Runes, 200 Heartwood, 200 Regulus, and so on (200 Apples, 200 Bananas, 200 this, 200 that). Back then I didn't even realize that the mats used for crafting furnishings were considered to be valuable.

Amottica wrote: »

SilverBride wrote: »

It seems like bad planning to establish any situation that can create conflict among the playerbase, such as making chests "stealable". There should be a short period of about 5 seconds after a fail for another attempt before the chest becomes public again.

I doubt the chests create much strife between players. I think most of us realize the mechanic of locking a player out of a chest for a few seconds is to give others a chance at it if we fail.

Besides, such a suggestion would mean a player could control the chest for hours if they had enough picks and were a bad lock picker.

But why would they? There would be no benefit in controlling a chest they can't get open for more than a few minutes, let alone for hours.

Also, they could make it so a player only gets 3 chances before it goes directly to public again.

There are lots of chests, go somewhere else in the zone if someone is shadowing you.

The UI even says you have to wait for a cool down after failure so someone else can have a chance.

If you want to get better so you don't fail, look at the Springs, not the Pins. Springs shake before the pins do. Some people use the sound to set a pin.

Stealing a chest while you are doing the Mobs is a *** move, but, not really against the TOS. So move to another part of the zone to get away from the jerk.

Node, chest, whatever...I usually just let the aggressive player have it. Even if I have killed the mobs to get to it, I take a deep breath and move on.

Completely understand being frustrated by this as well as poor behavior in general. Sometimes it helps to remind myself that I don't have power over other people's behavior, only my own. Which usually means working on not letting things bother me as much/staying away from the tendency to build up anger over the "unfairness" of others not being as kind as I think they should.

I don't recall where I first encountered the notion but somewhere I read something along the lines of: When you encounter a situation/person/behavior you don't like, you only really have three options. 1:Change the situation (often not possible), 2: Leave the situation, 3: Total acceptance of the situation. I'm still trying to master this hippie stuff because it's instinct to let ego take over which wants to be angry at everything that doesn't go your own way in order to inflate itself but still... the notion has helped me a lot in life. Even with Chest stealers, inconsiderate PUGgers, etc.

This game sometimes makes me really wary and weary of people when I see how commonly people treat each other like rubbish but then again, I have played MMOs in which the player base was WAY worse.