Melee-wise: a Chakram: Can be ranged dps(throwing one or two split chakrams), melee dps(dual wield and two hander), and tank(using the chakram(s) to block attacks from all sides). Think of Xena with her double chakram.

Magic-wise: a magical orb as weapon. Can be close ranged aoe magic dps, ranged magic dps, healing, and tank(protection spells). The orb can be held in either hand, or floating between both hands. All magic attacks originate from that orb. Also the orb can be thrown and will magically be drawn back to the user. Ofcourse healing spells would also originate from the orb(magicka fountain for grouped players). For tanking the orb could create protective shields around the user and it's entire party, as well as other protection spells like harden skin or a different type of magical barrier(waterwall, ghost-like skin, etc) to increase the users resistances/protection against attacks.

PS: When coming up with weapon types, please also try to include tanking spec ideas. This could greatly benefit queue's and grouping experiences if more players start tanking.

Dual Pistols









Or Unarmed. That'll work

I want that staff with the blue fire effects necromancer npcs use. why can't we have one of those.

not sure why ppl want sword and one hand with spell so much. feels like they want eso to be skyrim.

At least i'm not sure how that would fit the game tbh. you can't do double attacks at the same time.... oh unless ppl just want a 1 handed sword? that would be cool yeah

1 hand + spell would be nice.

We already have 4 different stamina weapon lines and only 2 magicka weapon lines, so 1 (or maybe 2) more magicka weapon lines to expand the options for magicka characters to match the stamina options would be nice to see.

Dr_Con wrote: »

deejayvee wrote: »

Spears are the most-used pre-gunpowder weapon so it's really strange that it is not represented more in fantasy games.

In the presence of magic there's no need for civilization to develop and use gunpowder to be used for creating guns. Seige weaponry I can maybe see as a first step... It's likely why you see the Dwemer advancing so far in technology while everyone else is praying and making deals with devil gods. They won't ever have their great inventors develop cars or computers because their great minds are all occupied with the study and pursuit of magic to aid and assist them with tasks, which is really a neat concept to think about. Clockwork City is an exception, but they keep to themselves generally speaking. The NPCs are aware of combustible material, as is used in the Imperial City DLC to collapse some cave in one of the districts, so they're not far off from siege cannons, but it hasn't been used int his manner.

War should bring about technological advances, but that's not the case in this universe, they're still using Ayelid artifacts and have undiscovered Dwemer ruins as well as daedric beings who can really ruin some ones' day. If the Dwemer never went extinct, there's a possibility of us playing Dwemer Under the Mountains Online

I think this is a fascinating concept to think about; comparing modern civilization with how it would progress with magic in existence. In real life, the progression of society and the advances of technology were born from necessity and the limited facilities of the individual.

In TES, magic very quickly fills this need. The individual is not nearly as limited and magic amplifies capability extremely quickly. Also, it's pretty apparent that being magically adept is extremely common in TES. As common as it is for real life to have mechanical minds or engineers. When magic is common, being able to use magic is a common talent, and magic can solve all your problems, why would you need to turn to something as difficult as the construction of technology or the mining of chemicals from the ground (though remember that also in TES, nature itself seems to have a will and take action too)?

HOWEVER, I do like how the Dwemer get a big pass on this for one simple reason: they are almost anti-magic. Sure, they are really atheists who reject the divine and their sources of magic. But, in TES, that seems to really limit the access to civilization changing levels of magic. So, the Dwemer HAD to turn to technology to fill the gap. Something other societies just turn to magic for. It makes sense and I like it as an explanation for why we don't see more technology everywhere.

Clockwork city is more of an individual's effort and will, rather than a civilization. It's really just the creation of Sotha Sil and is more of an artificial experimentation than a naturally created society.

Went with unarmed, but also would like to see just one-handed, swashbuckler style.

xXCJsniperXx7 wrote: »

TES has had different weapons in the series, which of these would you like in ESO?

You forgot the "I want them all" option. ☺️

Dr_Con wrote: »

Definitely NOT conjuration- this is already integrated into the Sorceror's class and some conjuring elements are double-barred.

Alteration seems to be integrated into the sorc class as well.

i'm not sorc.

Turning one subset of Destruction magic (ice) into tanking magic was one of the most ''lore'' egregious changes that were made in this game, as well as the most recent Bosmer racial passives...


Alteration has the most potential IMO for a utility staff.

Physical damage shields
Elemental damage shields (no, these have never been considered Destruction magic, including ice shields, until years after ESO release and in ESO only)
Burden
Feather
Waterwalking
Levitation
Lock opening
Attribute conversion
Life detect (sometimes considered Mysticism)
Paralysis (sometimes considered Illusion)
Light (sometimes considered Illusion)

Unarmed, of course.
I just want to take down dungeon boss by " Fist of north star one hundred crack fist".

Would like to punch the ankles of dragons until they collapse.

Also, One Punch memes.

emilyhyoyeon wrote: »

Turning one subset of Destruction magic (ice) into tanking magic was one of the most ''lore'' egregious changes that were made in this game, as well as the most recent Bosmer racial passives...


Alteration has the most potential IMO for a utility staff.

Physical damage shields
Elemental damage shields (no, these have never been considered Destruction magic, including ice shields, until years after ESO release and in ESO only)
Burden
Feather
Waterwalking
Levitation
Lock opening
Attribute conversion
Life detect (sometimes considered Mysticism)
Paralysis (sometimes considered Illusion)
Light (sometimes considered Illusion)

Yeah! Strong agree, here.

I do think that frost magic conceptually works for snares- the trade-off between damage and utility makes sense in this. Shields and taunts though? Yeah, it feels like forcing the mythology to serve very abstract mechanics, and its *REALLY* contrived.

I agree that alteration could very easily serve a central role in "magicka-based tanking", given all the obvious mitigation functionality.

I still think that enchantment and illusion also has concepts that could be employed to serve MMO tanking mechanics in a very convincing way.

kaushad wrote: »

Supreme_Atromancer wrote: »

Classic Spell Swords from older games would be a great place to start looking for inspiration

Spellswords of most older games wouldn't really need an alternative set up. It was only in TESV when spells required a free hand.

You're absolutely correct. I'd still argue that there's still a power archetype, immediately recognisable, and informed not only by Elder Scrolls, but a core concept in high fantasy. Skyrim just delivered a pre-existing archetype in a mechanically convincing way.

Now that I think of it, alteration staff might be great. So I could turn enemies into shrooms, eat them and have a nice trip.

Supreme_Atromancer wrote: »

emilyhyoyeon wrote: »

Turning one subset of Destruction magic (ice) into tanking magic was one of the most ''lore'' egregious changes that were made in this game, as well as the most recent Bosmer racial passives...


Alteration has the most potential IMO for a utility staff.

Physical damage shields
Elemental damage shields (no, these have never been considered Destruction magic, including ice shields, until years after ESO release and in ESO only)
Burden
Feather
Waterwalking
Levitation
Lock opening
Attribute conversion
Life detect (sometimes considered Mysticism)
Paralysis (sometimes considered Illusion)
Light (sometimes considered Illusion)

Yeah! Strong agree, here.

I do think that frost magic conceptually works for snares- the trade-off between damage and utility makes sense in this. Shields and taunts though? Yeah, it feels like forcing the mythology to serve very abstract mechanics, and its *REALLY* contrived.

I agree that alteration could very easily serve a central role in "magicka-based tanking", given all the obvious mitigation functionality.

I still think that enchantment and illusion also has concepts that could be employed to serve MMO tanking mechanics in a very convincing way.

I do think illusion could make a great utility staff too, especially in terms of tanking and buff/debuff utility with frenzy/calm/demoralize/rally/paralysis. I'd be pretty happy with illusion staff if that's what ZOS went with.

I'm personally biased towards alteration since I like that school more and I've fantasized a lot about the potential of cool alteration utility spells and passives in ESO, especially with burden, feather, and lock opening.
Ex. A passive that gives you a (X% rank 1, Y% rank 2) chance to open the lock on a chest/door/etc if an alteration staff is wielded or skill on your bar. (similar to ledmgermmariane passives, but wouldn't use a lockpick)

But illusion would be good, especially since squeezing a taunt spell out of alteration is kind of iffy. I think it could only work by tying it to a burden type spell whereas illusion has a literal taunt in frenzy.