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Manners and friendlyness of the eso community

derkaiserliche
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Hello friends,

as an oldschool player i often miss some good manners of players in game. For example it should totally common sense to thank someone if he/she comes to help you out with a boss after you asked for help in the chat. Maybe a more debatable behaviour is to greet the other players in a dungeon group at the beginning and say "goodbye" or "thanks for the run" afterwards.

Nowadays it feels like noone says anything at all and leaves the group as fast as possible after the dungeon is finished. It should be important to be a good rolemodel for new players, since the world of elderscrolls is more than just a simple videogame to a lot of players (including me).

Do you have the same experience lately or are my expectations maybe simply too high?

Manners and friendlyness of the eso community 202 votes

I am totally fine with the current friendlyness of the community.
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I wish the friendlyness would improve.
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It doesnt affect my enjoyment of playing eso, so i dont care.
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  • joergino
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    It doesnt affect my enjoyment of playing eso, so i dont care.
    On the rare occasion that I do a dungeon, I usually say Hi at the beginning and "Thank you all" at the end, but almost always these two messages are the only ones in group chat.
  • SPR_of_HA_community
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    It doesnt affect my enjoyment of playing eso, so i dont care.
    Man.
    A lot of players builds were nerfed. A lot of players pass all that dunguans millions of time and the only reason they go there is get Keys/Transmutes/Endewors/Tickets by event and go do some thing else.

    It is casual game for casuals. They have no time for that ;) A lot of players just come to make daily quest and go off - they do not care about game any more.

    So it is expected.
  • amig186
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    I wish the friendlyness would improve.
    Yes, at least half of the time when I queue with the group finder I get matched with 3 deaf mutes, or perhaps players who don't speak basic English. I don't really hold it against them, not everyone feels like talking, but it kind of makes me feel like I'm playing with bots. That said, a significant number of people I've queued with were very polite, so it could be much worse.
    PC EU
  • SPR_of_HA_community
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    It doesnt affect my enjoyment of playing eso, so i dont care.
    joergino wrote: »
    On the rare occasion that I do a dungeon, I usually say Hi at the beginning and "Thank you all" at the end, but almost always these two messages are the only ones in group chat.

    The same.
    Hi /ty bb ))

    But for dunguans like FG1 )) whyle you will write it they already pass half of the dunguan and it is bad because i always fake tanking there ))))
    Edited by SPR_of_HA_community on November 25, 2022 12:50PM
  • DreamyLu
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    It doesnt affect my enjoyment of playing eso, so i dont care.
    I agree with OP. I pretty rarely see players saying "thanks" (even less saying "hello" or "bye"), no matter the activity/chat or even the mails (like sending cost free mats to someone asking for in chat and seeing nothing in return). Even more, I quite regularly witness chats or behaviors I don't like, especially over the weekend in towns.

    However, my "luck" is that I use ESO as a game to chill solo aside of my main, so that I don't care much about what's going on around me. Not to care is egoistic, but a powerful protection too... o:)
    I'm out of my mind, feel free to leave a message... PC/NA
  • DMuehlhausen
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    It doesnt affect my enjoyment of playing eso, so i dont care.
    Dungeon finder systems are the reason, mostly for bad behavior. People don't need to speak, don't need to be friendly and they get their group stuff done.

    People being rude in online games is never going to stop. the only thing that slows it is when the community is allow the police itself. That doesn't work anymore cause if the person being a jerk is blackballed they can complain and get other players banned.

    EQ if you were a jerk to people you just flat out didn't get to do anything in the game the entire server knew you, and nobody would invite you to do stuff. Amazing how friendly and helpful the community in that game was.
  • TaSheen
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    It doesnt affect my enjoyment of playing eso, so i dont care.
    I don't do group content so makes me no nevermind.
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  • Soarora
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    I am totally fine with the current friendlyness of the community.
    I do hate, a lot, when people don’t talk in dungeons but I’ve found that more (vet) dungeons than not do have people who talk. I say hello at the beginning of every dungeon and tyfg at the end if I like the group.
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  • Khenarthi
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    Some people greet, some do not, I try not to let that affect me (I usually greet, unless it's a dungeon finder pug where he group is running ahead killing stuff - then I just try to keep up)
    PC-EU
  • Lady_Galadhiel
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    I am totally fine with the current friendlyness of the community.
    Speech is silver, silence is golden.
    Total ESO playtime: 8325 hours
    ESO plus status: Cancelled
    ESO currently uninstalled.
  • Sparxlost
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    It doesnt affect my enjoyment of playing eso, so i dont care.
    I've got to say this isnt what i was expecting at all when i read the title of the post..

    im fine with working alongside randoms and not having to say thanks after every dungeon...

    but i guess if im obviously being carried i would say thanks and wouldnt if someone was just showing up to solo everything in that "im expecting a thanks" manner..
  • Deter1UK
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    I wish the friendlyness would improve.
    Some people have basic courtesy and good manners

    Some people do not

    The groups I play with do
  • Lucjan
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    I am totally fine with the current friendlyness of the community.
    Could the community be friendlier? Sure, but tbh I am actually fine with the way it is. Yes, you rarely see a Hi or Thank You in a chat while doing dungeons, but in my experience what is more important that even most of the hardcore rushers take it slow when you mention you are doing the quest.

    Or people inquire why you felt behind and run back to you to help you find the way when you are lost or at least wait for you to catch up. Those things for me are a lot more important.

  • Hamfast
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    It doesnt affect my enjoyment of playing eso, so i dont care.
    Personally, every dungeon group I am in is normally great, we chat and joke, take our time and even loot the containers...

    This is because I NEVER pug anything.
    Of all the things I have lost, I miss my mind the most...
  • tonyblack
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    It doesnt affect my enjoyment of playing eso, so i dont care.
    I kind of feel like ESO for the most part antisocial single player game with mmo elements. Rarely did I encounter entertaining discussions in zone chats or guilds as it mostly lfg, lfm, wts my overpriced stuff/carries, wtb crowns. I miss seeing political discussions on imperial fleet in SWTOR or toxic teammates from WOW and LOL. While I myself prefer to remain a bystander in most cases it’s one of those things that keep the world feel alive. Last 10 randoms i did nobody even said hi, that’s how bad it is.
  • whitecrow
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    I am totally fine with the current friendlyness of the community.
    I don't do dungeons much any more but I find that most people in groups outside of that do say some sort of thanks afterward.
  • Triplesixtyson
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    I wish the friendlyness would improve.
    Played mmorpgs for well over 20 years. If im being honest, i agree with the OPs sentiment. The community doesnt feel as much of a community as many other games ive played. I love helping other players, i help out newbies with some gold often, always with zero expecations obviously. I do it because it makes me feel good but a thank you here and there would be nice. Most times im sure its other great people behind the character but it can come off as rude or unappreciative.
    Edited by Triplesixtyson on November 25, 2022 5:26PM
  • VictorDragonslayer
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    It doesnt affect my enjoyment of playing eso, so i dont care.
    I don't care about random players in normal dungeons. I run it for transmutes or sets, therefore only need people capable of fast clear, not some chatty types. The only reason to communicate is briefly telling the strat when group wipes because of mechanic. I neither respect nor disrespect all these people, I simply want to fulfill my interests, and typing unnecessary words in chat doesn't help.

    Premade groups are totally different subject. I know these people, we coordinate our actions or simply chat about anything we want via discord.

    Regarding good role models for new players... I try to show them what I've seen when I was new: a player blasting through monsters. If at least some of them notice that you can stack enemies and kill them all together with several casts, that you can kill a boss in 30 seconds, they may be inspired to learn the game and do these things themselves.
  • BretonMage
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    I am totally fine with the current friendlyness of the community.
    I see the occasional thank you at WBs and dragons, so that's nice. I haven't done a dungeon with a group for ages, but I tend to say hi and thanks when I do. I appreciate basic courtesy but am fine if people choose to be silent. As long as no one's being rude, I'm happy with players choosing to interact in a way that suits them.
  • Grizzbeorn
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    I don't run dungeons with randos, so there is no occasion (or desire) to talk to them.
    Anyone I am formally grouped with is already speaking into my ears via voice-chat, and those are usually people I know personally, in- AND outside of the game.

    Most of the other random ungrouped players with whom I cross paths, who take part in WB encounters, delves, or the various World Events (dolmens, geysers, dragons, harrowstorms, vents)... ain't nobody got time for that when they (not me, them; I don't rush) are rushing around at break-neck speed from location to location to get content done.

    I *will* heartily thank anyone who answers a request for a werewolf or vampire bite, though.
    Edited by Grizzbeorn on November 25, 2022 6:16PM
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    • peacenote
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      It doesnt affect my enjoyment of playing eso, so i dont care.
      It doesn't bother me if people aren't friendly, but it does increase my experience when they are. :)

      Sometimes I am guilty of it myself because I'm just not fast enough. I use an orbweaver instead of a regular keyboard and jumping back to the regular keyboard to type takes time. In runs where I want to trade gear afterwards, sometimes I can barely look through what people have linked before everyone is gone, let alone say thank you or link my own gear to share.

      And, to an extent, how ESO has evolved contributes to this. Say you only have two hours to play. There is a lot more to squeeze in to those two hours. Writs, endeavors, daily DLC quests, event tickets if there is one... people are trying to efficiently run from one task to another to fit more in and as a result I have seen niceties decline in groups of strangers.
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    • markulrich1966
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      I am totally fine with the current friendlyness of the community.
      a "hello", "good job everyone" or "thanks" in dungeons or at worldbosses is very common on xbox EU, as this server has maybe 10 times less players than NA.

      So people rely on each other. If you must solo worldbosses most of the time, you are really happy to get help, this impacts the communication.

      I play both servers, and adapted on NA, where everyone rushes through.

      EU feels like a survival game, NA like an amusement park. I don't complain about NA, as it is just very different.
    • svendf
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      You can ask yourself how come FFXIV for the 2nd year in a row won the Golden Joystick Award for the best game community of the year.

      Not everything in this game is the communitys fault. One thing stuck out, when the lead of FFXIV brought his thanks to the community, was, when he mentioned that the lead game devs also have a responsebility in, what´s going on in a community.

      The devs are as big a part of building a good and healthy community as the player´s themself. I see some of you are ok with how it is. Fine, no problem - you are in the right game.

      Every single community out there on the player level are seeing the same problems as in playtime and still not have the problems seen here
    • CasgarTheSomnolent
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      Asking specifically for help? Yeah, definitely be friendly and thankful as best you can.

      For dungeons, I always say thanks at the end as a form of habit. However, I'll give people the benefit of the doubt, because dungeons are just a grind all the way through. If you're a DPS like me, you waited 30 minutes just to get in via the dungeon finder. You want to get it over with as fast as possible, and the dungeons themselves aren't trivial amounts of time. Plus, if you queued for a random, and you got a DLC dungeon, it's heartbreaking, because the DLC dungeons are so long. And I like the DLC dungeons.

      The whole of ESO's activity finding is just draining, whether it's the automated system or manually asking in zone chat. Rudeness is never acceptable. However, if people are unresponsive, just give them the benefit of the doubt that they're probably tired, frustrated, strapped for real life time, bored, or whatever, and that naturally makes a person less talkative.
    • Anifaas
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      I am totally fine with the current friendlyness of the community.
      Generally speaking I find ESO people to be laid back and polite. Especially compared to most other MMOs. The average player is courteous in dungeons. Any time I've asked a question in /zone it has been answered politely. People are generally more generous and helpful than other MMOS too. Every time I ask for help with a WB, for instance, I always get help.

      Online, especially Reddit, the crowd seems much more unfriendly/unruly/juvenile than practically every other MMO I play. Its astounding to me the difference between in-game (PC-NA) and social media.
    • Freelancer_ESO
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      I wish the friendlyness would improve.
      I think part of it is a design problem as the incentives and messaging for content frequently focus player's interest too much on small sections of content.
    • rpa
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      It doesnt affect my enjoyment of playing eso, so i dont care.
      "Hi" at start and "ty all" at end is plenty frendliness from random strangers grouping to get a daily chore done as quick as possible. When not in hurry people tend to be sociable, helpful and polite in general. And in this game too.
    • VaranisArano
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      Be the change you want to see.
    • MikeSkyrim333
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      It doesnt affect my enjoyment of playing eso, so i dont care.
      Make voice chat in the game and I will talk with all my friendlyness, I hate to write in games
    • AzuraFan
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      I am totally fine with the current friendlyness of the community.
      I'm okay with no chatter if it's an impromptu thing like helping someone with a boss. In my experience, most people say thank you anyway.

      There are other behaviours I'm not okay with in ESO, but few words in chat isn't one of them.
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