Manners and friendlyness of the eso community

Amphithoe

I wish the friendlyness would improve.

I guess it's near impossible to change human nature, but I feel there is so many "big ego's" in the ESO community, it's really difficult to find a guild without drama and conflict.

svendf

How can friendlyness be improved if look at it from an overall gamedesign perspective ? Is it fair to say some gamedesign can cause issues in a community ? If yes. What would those look like ?

bmnoble

It doesnt affect my enjoyment of playing eso, so i dont care.

If someone says Hi at the beginning of a dungeon I will say it back. Other than that I say thanks for the group after every dungeon, not always fast enough to type it before the group leaves. If someone is looking for set pieces in a dungeon I keep an eye out and trade them at the end of the dungeon.

Other than that its a case by case basis how I interact with people 95% of the time I am just doing my own thing. Will answer questions in guild and zone chat that is about it.




As a side note would like to say if you invite someone to group in overland and they refuse your offer of grouping 3 times in a row take the hint, don't continue to pester them.

CrashTest

It doesnt affect my enjoyment of playing eso, so i dont care.

I'm that player who says hi at the start and tyfg at the end, but I don't mind if no one else says anything bc they don't owe it me. I don't take it personally. It's just the way some people are.

What I've learned from years of playing MMOs is this genre has a high number of people with social anxieties compared to other multiplayer genres, so they'll stay quiet bc they feel awkward or shy.

Carcamongus

I don't feel able to judge the community's friendliness as a whole, though I more often than not see people being nice and funny instead of rude. As for dungeons, I admit I don't always say hi to the group first, though I make sure to thank them once it's done, even if it was a 5-minute FG1 run. Unless, that is, I'm furious about something that happened, as then I find it wiser to say as little as possible.

Nestor

I don't expect a lot of socializing in a pug. If they had speech to text, i might be more loquacious myself in those situations. If we are waiting around i sometimes throw out a whimsy in chat. The time lag on responses is sometimes along the lines of, did someone just say something? Let me get in the correct channel, then think of an appropriate response all the while keeping an eye on the boss so i can get my hits in....

The mechanics of the comms on PC are not conducive to casual chat. Not sure the sea of a 1000 voices on the console is any better...

Cadbury

It doesnt affect my enjoyment of playing eso, so i dont care.

I'm not much of a talker online. If someone says "hello", asks me a question in group/zone, or we're in a trade, I'll reply in turn. Other than that, I don't actively seek out interactions.

As for others, my experiences with the ESO community has been positive. And I feel there are certainly alot more hostile communities out there.

robwolf666

I wish the friendlyness would improve.

Next to not really being all that bothered about the social aspect of the game, this is one of the primary reasons I have all forms of chat and interaction turned off - including duel challenges and ToT (I just play the NPCs for that).

SickleCider

I look at it like this: I'm more worried about the apparent behavior of the player. Are they polite in their actions? Do they keep pace with the group? Or are they actively impeding everyone's goals with their behavior? There are a lot of reasons a person can't, won't, or doesn't feel comfortable talking. I say let them alone. They don't owe me a "hello" and a smile.

Amottica

I am totally fine with the current friendlyness of the community.

Overall I have found ESO players to be very friendly. While it has been a while since I ran with random players via the GF as I prefer with good players via my guilds, when I did, I often saw players saying Hi and TYFG. The numbers that did not were trivial.

So my answer to the poll is saying I disagree with the sentiments the OP seems to have. I also suggest OP runs more with guild players as it is always a better experience.

Vildebill

I am totally fine with the current friendlyness of the community.

It's a way of looking at life I guess. I always say hi, thanks for the run and all that, just as I would do in real life because it makes me feel good and almost always gets me a smile or a message back. That's the world I prefer to live in 😊

Dragonlord573

I wish the friendlyness would improve.

For an MMO the game feels very... Not social. I haven't seen any conversations in zone chat for months, only in guild chats. That or it is cause my buddies and I are causing chaos in the zones chat for a laugh.

xXCJsniperXx7

I wish the friendlyness would improve.

There's a lack of formalities. Like giving someone a piece they said lf for in chat and just leaving after trade. I mean they didn't have to give a lightning staff or something to them.

derkaiserliche

I wish the friendlyness would improve.

Maybe this topic can be a reminder, that there are a lot of players, who will enjoy some greetings and some kindness overall.

Even if its just a "hi" back at the beginning of a dungeon.

Thanks for your input guys!

NylAR

There are absolutely none from the devs and mods. Period. Everyone else: I love you.

Stinkyremy

I wish the friendlyness would improve.

The game has turned crap in that regard.
Today I answered to a "need crafter in zone chat" I then craft 2 items for the guy, traded, he didn't give me any gold, despite I had made the items purple for him for free, and while I did get a ty in whisper, it is rude not to pay for my effort.

Though I blame ZOS for this as they have made being a crafter a completely useless thing now after transmutation, outfitting and outifit styles.

Worse thing and a part of the reason I think people have become less friendly is because people started charging money for carries in trials.
After that, especially new players, people have got the idea that instead of helping each other and doing content together, thanking each other, "we" only do content "for you/with you" so that "we" can benefit ourselves.
It has become greedy and anti social.

I had a guy in zone chat today type "selling pillar of nirn flamestaff runs, 100k 100% guaranteed drop rate"
idk if that is a bug with the 100% drop rate or he will farm the dungeon with you until you get it as curated drop but charging other players 100K to farm a dungeon (falkreach hold), a dungeon which was pledge and you can do on normal too, seem extremely greedy and anti social.

I called him a cancer on the game, which it really is.
He said he will report me.
See which one is the actual issue.

Recently, out of curiosity I asked a trial seller how much a run for a trial, ND,HM etc would cost.
He said 28 million!
This is how greedy they have gotten.

I genuinely think this is the reason people are less friendly because before people started selling trial runs, players were much more friendly, helpful and would be thankful.
I met so many great players in PUG dungeons and now people leave before even posting loot drops.
Even after asking for them to share beforehand.

Stinkyremy

I wish the friendlyness would improve.

SPR_of_HA_community wrote: »

joergino wrote: »

On the rare occasion that I do a dungeon, I usually say Hi at the beginning and "Thank you all" at the end, but almost always these two messages are the only ones in group chat.

The same.
Hi /ty bb ))

But for dunguans like FG1 )) whyle you will write it they already pass half of the dunguan and it is bad because i always fake tanking there ))))

You say that but none of them ever know the mechanics of spider woman boss in FG2. Or they always die to the first boss in vaults of madness because they do not know mechanics.

Violatorrose

I wish the friendlyness would improve.

I've been playing online since 2002 and have seen a steady decline in the way players interact with each other over the past 20 years. If I see someone soloing a boss or something I always help and people often to do the same for me so people still like to help each other but its almost like everyone is in too much of a rush to stop and say thankyou, they just instantly rush off to the next objective.

Younger players probably don't know any different but for us oldies who can remember they early days of mmo's its hard not to compare and feel some sadness at the change. My first MMO was Dark Age of Camelot and in those days dungeons were not soloable, you had to find a group yourself (no dungeon finder), if you died you had to get help to get back to spot where you died you reclaim your experience. In between each kill you had to actually /sit to recharge your mana and health. People would chat to each other in those downtimes, friendships were made, romances started. I met my partner of 12 years in Everquest 2!

If I had to pinpoint a time when the decline started I would say probably with the start of voice chat. Once people started to use it as the norm, guild chat and group chat started to be used less and less and you might have a group of 6 where 3 of them were chatting on discord and the other 3 not saying much because often chat messages would be missed.

I think on the whole most people are still friendly and helpful, its just things now are more rushed most don't really know any different.

Ragnarok0130

I am totally fine with the current friendlyness of the community.

I'm not sure what region or content you're running OP but I frequently see and give 'Hi" and "tyfg" before people leave RNDs. I also notice that veteran dungeons and trials are even more friendly than RNDs when I run them. If you mean manners overland I think people are focusing on their quest, help out and speed off like Batman.

Leighlaa

I am totally fine with the current friendlyness of the community.

For reference: I am 2200+ CP, played since beta, full 18 + 7 more on alt acc, run a social guild, and am a fangirl for ESO.

I think the ESO gamer community is probably the #1 thing that ESO has going for it right now. 2022 was rocky at best for bugginess (though I adored the functional content/stories/zones), but something that has never changed in my eyes is the way people are TO EACH OTHER.

Sure, you see a **LOT** of bashing in zone of Zenimax and their employees (mean!) but rarely do I see people bashing *EACH OTHER*. Sure, in starter zones (Glenumbra, Stonefalls, and Auridon), it's toxic AF due to people just starting and not understanding that this game isn't whatever other mouth-breather game they came from. Most fix their behavior quickly or leave. Yay!

Maybe I am so optimistic about the community and have a higher perception of the kindness level because I actively try to contribute to said kindness. Someone need some white meat on zone? I GOTCHU HOMIE. Somebody wants to know why they should not use heavy armor on a healer? LET'S CHAT! Want to spread hate and lies about the tender deliciousness of guar? I WILL SQUASH THOSE RUMORS, THEY ARE NOT FOOD! Kindness is something that follows you. So maybe it follows me because I so actively try to welcome people and help out.

P.S. Need sub cp160 training gear? HMU FAM!!!

me_ming

I wish the friendlyness would improve.

Stinkyremy wrote: »

SPR_of_HA_community wrote: »

joergino wrote: »

On the rare occasion that I do a dungeon, I usually say Hi at the beginning and "Thank you all" at the end, but almost always these two messages are the only ones in group chat.

The same.
Hi /ty bb ))

But for dunguans like FG1 )) whyle you will write it they already pass half of the dunguan and it is bad because i always fake tanking there ))))

You say that but none of them ever know the mechanics of spider woman boss in FG2. Or they always die to the first boss in vaults of madness because they do not know mechanics.

OMG! You are so correct. I've been PUGging since forever, and honestly, am totally shock how nowadays no one knows the mechanic for FG II last boss. Like seriously that's the easiest mechanic of the last boss EVER! No one knows it's a ranged fight. Most players go in and run all over the place. lol. It's so hilarious that since being back in August and do that dungeon, none of the groups I have pugged it have done that mechanic properly. lol. Everyone just runs around like headless chickens spreading the AOE attack of the last boss, instead of fighting her from range and just going back and forth.

me_ming

I wish the friendlyness would improve.

Stinkyremy wrote: »

The game has turned crap in that regard.
Today I answered to a "need crafter in zone chat" I then craft 2 items for the guy, traded, he didn't give me any gold, despite I had made the items purple for him for free, and while I did get a ty in whisper, it is rude not to pay for my effort.

Just saying you're contradicting yourself, if it's free why are you expecting payment? Shouldn't the "thank you" be enough? If you wanted to get paid, then why didn't you say so in the first place. When I DO craft for someone and make it purple, especially for lower level and new players, I do NOT expect them to pay me. A "thank you" is more than enough for me. Sometimes if they are sociable I even give them gold to buy a mount or something.

El_Borracho

I wish the friendlyness would improve.

If I'm running random normals, I don't use voice chat. Usually only use it in trials or with guildies in vet dungeons. Overall, I'd say the vast majority of players are very friendly and fun to run with. But we only remember the bad ones. I don't understand why some people, again, only a few of them, use voice chat in trials to take out whatever frustrations they have on other players

Auldwulfe

I am totally fine with the current friendlyness of the community.

You need an option between fine and more ---
In my experience, which is what I voted off of, I HAVE seen the politeness, and the thank you messages --- I have seen people slow runs for new players, or for people that need the quests, etc.

But, as others have said, we could use more .... so my personal anecdotal experience is that it is pretty good here.

Auldwulfe

Cadbury

It doesnt affect my enjoyment of playing eso, so i dont care.

Generally speaking, I'm not sure how kindness and manners can be "forced" onto the gaming public.

fred4

I am totally fine with the current friendlyness of the community.

nvm

Billy2112

I wish the friendlyness would improve.

Just recently I did my first veteran dungeon. I've been playing since 2015 and just didn't see the need. Got through the dungeon and on the last boss about halfway health I blew a mechanic and died. After the boss was dead, I apologized and thanked them for the carry letting them know it was my first time. Not only did they compliment me, but they gave me tips and told me I played very well the entire time with more than acceptable DPS. I have had the good fortune of running into many such players. More of that style approach is better than chewing someone out for missing a roll dodge.

barney2525

I wish the friendlyness would improve.

I'm on NA server

Recently players using Asian language computers are flooding NA Chat. IMHO it is extremely rude to access a public chat and cut a large number of players out of the conversation, knowing full well that most people on the server can Not read the language you are posting. Not to mention the Chat box being so small, you can't follow English language discussions. NA should be for players to communicate in standard NA languages.

Its irritating to have to ignore every Asian source. And when you make a comment, they become even more rude.

Consideration for others and Manners are a thing of the past.

TwiceBornStar

I wish the friendlyness would improve.

TYVM. GG. WP. TY. BB.

Might as well say nothing!

fizl101

barney2525 wrote: »

I'm on NA server

Recently players using Asian language computers are flooding NA Chat. IMHO it is extremely rude to access a public chat and cut a large number of players out of the conversation, knowing full well that most people on the server can Not read the language you are posting. Not to mention the Chat box being so small, you can't follow English language discussions. NA should be for players to communicate in standard NA languages.

Its irritating to have to ignore every Asian source. And when you make a comment, they become even more rude.

Consideration for others and Manners are a thing of the past.

I'm very surprised at this comment. NA is the location of the server and is the best of the two options for a larger population than just the US and Canada. Trying to enforce a language that not everyone speaks is not friendly in my opinion and you should be considerate of players in non English speaking countries rather than trying to stop them from talking. I play on PS EU where there are a large number of languages spoken and typed, its just the nature of the game