Enundr wrote: »

James-Wayne wrote: »

Just did vMA and it took me 46mins longer to complete then last patch, I usually do it in 32mins so thats 78mins in total to complete. Its not harder, content is the same but I feel WAY underpowered compared to before... in fact in my 8 years of playing this is the the most underpowered I have ever felt playing Templar.

I can get use to being underpowered but if content is going to take me 2-3 times longer to complete then I wont be playing a lot of content anymore, sad truth.

Hopefully qtr 4 DLC contains fixes, either boost damage or reduce mobs health to compensate.

this is the thing people defending the update keptt trying to say "it makes it more challenging" , no it doesnt it just make it take longer as long as you can pass dps checks because of the merfs (week 1 was a heavy indication that this was not possible for some of them). challenge is related to skill , not how well your class does in dmg.

SeaGtGruff wrote: »

Jaraal wrote: »

kringled_1 wrote: »

SpacemanSpiff1 wrote: »

It's really good. It reeled in high end damage to lower the ceiling, and buffed the low end to raise the floor. accessibility.

Where do you see buffs to the low end in all of the U35 changes, outside of the statement of intent? Looking for specifics.

I assumed it to be a sarcastic post.

Clearly "low end" players, who will have far more difficulty adapting to the losses in damage and healing, are more affected by the blanket nerfs than "high end" players.

I also assumed it to be a sarcastic comment.

However, I suspect that a lot of players would lump me in with the "low end" players, and so far I'm honestly unable to tell much difference in how my Stamblade and Stamsorc mains are performing.

I think the degree to which the changes impact each player will probably have more to do with how they normally play. If they normally use HAW or MAW, they might not notice much difference. Actually, even someone who normally uses LAW might not notice much difference if they don't normally use tightly-timed rotations designed to generate maximum DPS.

Also, one's AP distribution may influence how much of an impact they notice, since (as I understand it) damage is now a flat number rather than scaling off of your Maximum Stamina or Maximum Magicka. Assuming they went with a flat number that's somewhere around the middle, someone with 64 AP in Stamina or Magicka is likely to feel nerfed, someone with 64 AP in Health is likely to feel buffed, and someone with 32 AP in Stamina or Magicka is likely to feel that nothing much has changed. (If I've misunderstood how the "non-scaling" damage works, would someone please explain it to me?)

DreamyLu wrote: »

Parasaurolophus wrote: »

Well... How is it? Have you completed any dungeons and trials yet? Can you complete content the way you used to?

Well, for me, no sensible change noticed. But I'm a casual PvE player, rarely doing dungeons and not doing trials. I suppose that probably, for players like me (who are probably a vast majority), U35 has no big impact.

renne wrote: »

Enundr wrote: »

James-Wayne wrote: »

Just did vMA and it took me 46mins longer to complete then last patch, I usually do it in 32mins so thats 78mins in total to complete. Its not harder, content is the same but I feel WAY underpowered compared to before... in fact in my 8 years of playing this is the the most underpowered I have ever felt playing Templar.

I can get use to being underpowered but if content is going to take me 2-3 times longer to complete then I wont be playing a lot of content anymore, sad truth.

Hopefully qtr 4 DLC contains fixes, either boost damage or reduce mobs health to compensate.

this is the thing people defending the update keptt trying to say "it makes it more challenging" , no it doesnt it just make it take longer as long as you can pass dps checks because of the merfs (week 1 was a heavy indication that this was not possible for some of them). challenge is related to skill , not how well your class does in dmg.

Literally this. In any game bullet sponge enemies are neither fun or challenging, they're just tedious, and that's what reducing the DPS makes enemies in this game much more like.

Panachudo wrote: »

From a main Warden the changes seem ok. I thought Oaken Soul would have been relegated to the depths of a storage coffer but it is still very usable. The extended duration on Fetcher Infection is welcome. The same treatment for Arctic Blast and its focus now being more damage oriented with a great heal is a real win. Mystic Orb restoring Mag and Stam is a nice change too. Testing Deadlands Demolisher, Orders Wrath, 1 piece Trainee helm, and Oaken Soul on a trial dummy rendered 57k dps. I'm sure this could be increased with different sets. It isn't exactly a high output build to begin with but its about 10k more than pre-update. Skill bar is Fetcher Infection, Sub Assault, Power Slam, Arctic Blast, and Mystic Orb. Arteum Broth food. Runs about 32k stam. The passive change to penetration vs 2% damage will come in handy as well. Its 6 of 1 and half a dozen of the other really.

Haven't loaded my Templar, Necro, or Sorc yet. Will be interesting to see the differences as they run high output sets. Hopefully get on tonight and check. Not overly worried to be honest. Changes come, changes go, changes stay. I think ZOS are undergoing an identity change. There will always be ups and downs until it is solidified.

FeedbackOnly wrote: »

SeaGtGruff wrote: »

Jaraal wrote: »

kringled_1 wrote: »

SpacemanSpiff1 wrote: »

It's really good. It reeled in high end damage to lower the ceiling, and buffed the low end to raise the floor. accessibility.

Where do you see buffs to the low end in all of the U35 changes, outside of the statement of intent? Looking for specifics.

I assumed it to be a sarcastic post.

Clearly "low end" players, who will have far more difficulty adapting to the losses in damage and healing, are more affected by the blanket nerfs than "high end" players.

I also assumed it to be a sarcastic comment.

However, I suspect that a lot of players would lump me in with the "low end" players, and so far I'm honestly unable to tell much difference in how my Stamblade and Stamsorc mains are performing.

I think the degree to which the changes impact each player will probably have more to do with how they normally play. If they normally use HAW or MAW, they might not notice much difference. Actually, even someone who normally uses LAW might not notice much difference if they don't normally use tightly-timed rotations designed to generate maximum DPS.

Also, one's AP distribution may influence how much of an impact they notice, since (as I understand it) damage is now a flat number rather than scaling off of your Maximum Stamina or Maximum Magicka. Assuming they went with a flat number that's somewhere around the middle, someone with 64 AP in Stamina or Magicka is likely to feel nerfed, someone with 64 AP in Health is likely to feel buffed, and someone with 32 AP in Stamina or Magicka is likely to feel that nothing much has changed. (If I've misunderstood how the "non-scaling" damage works, would someone please explain it to me?)

They buffed iron atro test dummy so numbers lie

SilverBride wrote: »

FeedbackOnly wrote: »

Have you tried out a dungeon this patch? Even normal dungeons are bad now

What did you find bad about them? I solo'd 6 dungeons today for the weekly endeavor and didn't notice anything different.

rpa wrote: »

Just soloed an easy dungeon (Spindleclutch I) with my overland 2h/bow stamsorc. (Plenty CP - unless they have reset it again - whatever cheap gear made some sense few years ago when I was still actively soloing dungeons + Pale Order and I being rather forgetful how I was supposed to rotate.) No problems, but it was slow enough to be annoying and I kept running out of stamina, final boss fight in particular.
Whatever they have done did not make casual experience any more fun. It's still easy but more tedious and boring.