How to ruin a good suit. DREMORA DECEIVER DUSTER.

Snowstrider · July 2021

I never understood how ESO which came out in 2014 cant handle physics when 10 years older games can do it

luen79rwb17_ESO · July 2021

Lmao that looks ugly!

Kaelthorn_Nightbloom · July 2021

Hair clips through the popped collar.

Kadraeus · July 2021

Y'all got too many hangups

Snowstrider · July 2021

Kadraeus wrote: »

Y'all got too many hangups

Well when you are a customer and pay for something you have the right to demand quality if the product does not meet your expectations

Monte_Cristo · July 2021

Jaraal wrote: »

What is the deal with these one shoulder armor pieces? It looks like your character was too drunk to properly put on their armor and forgot a piece as they stumbled out the door. Nobody in their right mind would armor only one side of their body, unless they were always crab walking into battle.

It's the shoulder you have facing the enemy? extra bit of armour on that side while not restricting the mobility of your weapon arm?

Lugaldu · July 2021

I was curious now and had to check what kind of clothing a "Duster" actually is. In the German translation, this costume is referred to as tailcoat, which in my opinion fits better.

Kendaric · July 2021

Lugaldu wrote: »

I was curious now and had to check what kind of clothing a "Duster" actually is. In the German translation, this costume is referred to as tailcoat, which in my opinion fits better.

The usual term for a "duster" in German would be "Staubmantel". Basically the typical cowboy/outlaw coats from western movies like "Once upon a time in the West".

Lugaldu · July 2021

Kendaric wrote: »

Lugaldu wrote: »

I was curious now and had to check what kind of clothing a "Duster" actually is. In the German translation, this costume is referred to as tailcoat, which in my opinion fits better.

The usual term for a "duster" in German would be "Staubmantel". Basically the typical cowboy/outlaw coats from western movies like "Once upon a time in the West".

Yes, I found that translation too and it doesn´t fit to the constume imho, "tailcoat" seems more appropiate.

jssriot · July 2021

The thing that made me LOL hard was when I put it on a male toon and saw why ZOS is so committed to crotch flaps. Like, they don't want to deal with any resemblance of male "junk" on these char models so, yeah, just have the crotch be the same for both male and female toons.

Let me say, I am MORE THAN OK with ZOS giving us costumes that are the same on both male and female toons. I want that, yesterday. That gender policing BS for RPGs was already passé when Skyrim came out. But it's just absolutely ridiculous that they would alter a costume by character sex (for example, the duster's buckles are for some reason shinier on the female version because I guess shiny buckles on males frightens people?), but they won't alter it so to suggest a male toon has anything downstairs in the way of cisgen junk. In a game that's already rated M. Silly, silly ZOS.

I still like the costume overall. It clips on certain hairstyle, and the bottom is a little puffy, and it makes my male necro look like he's the master of The Tuck, but it's way better than other leather-y outfits ZOS has given us. (Disclaimer: I got mine in a guild auction so I paid gold for it and not my own IRL money via Crowns)

Jaraal · July 2021

jssriot wrote: »

Let me say, I am MORE THAN OK with ZOS giving us costumes that are the same on both male and female toons. I want that, yesterday.

Well, I'm not a big fan of male characters wearing sports bras (Timbercrow Wanderer). It just looks silly to me. They've gone out of their way to make his and hers versions of other costumes (Dark Shaman, Nordic Bathing Towel, etc), so it's annoying that they won't be consistent about it.

I do agree that the crotch flaps are a fake modesty thing though. Ironic when you consider that both male and female werewolves sport the same "package". They didn't have to draw that in there, but they did. Go figure.

Blinx · July 2021

I just got my crowns refunded, already have too many items I don't use because the preview just wasn't enough to show me all aspects of said items.

Sephyr · July 2021

Blinx wrote: »

I just got my crowns refunded, already have too many items I don't use because the preview just wasn't enough to show me all aspects of said items.

Sorry to hear that. I do wish there was some kind of 15 minute trial outside of the preview just to see how things work/look while being animated (not just walking, but combat too). It'd also help show people how things dye as well if they got ESO+. Though given that there's been some hilarious bugs coming out of the Crown Store previews, I think that's probably one reason why.

Saucy_Jack · July 2021

Remember, if your skirt is swollen for more than four hours, see a doctor.

red_emu · July 2021

The biggest disappointment is that ZOS will not fix it because 1 in 100000 people said they like a balloon skirt 🙄

NotaDaedraWorshipper · July 2021

red_emu wrote: »

The biggest disappointment is that ZOS will not fix it because 1 in 100000 people said they like a balloon skirt 🙄

It's not a bug, though. They just fix bugs. If this was something that needed to be changed then there are like 10 other costumes and styles that needs to be fixed.
The only "proper" error the costume have is the bugged buckles on the female version.

LadyLethalla · July 2021

"Does my posterior look big in this?"

Kadraeus · July 2021

Snowstrider wrote: »

Kadraeus wrote: »

Y'all got too many hangups

Well when you are a customer and pay for something you have the right to demand quality if the product does not meet your expectations

This is 0% about quality and 100% about opinion. You can't expect everything to appeal to you specifically just because you paid for it. Everyone has different tastes, so it's literally impossible to make a "quality product" if your definition of a "quality product" is that it simply appeals to your standards.

Fischblut · July 2021

This costume appears puffy on the back only when used with certain personalities/postures

Jester, Duchess, Beast... With normal posture, it looks much better:

For comparison, here is permanent puffy back of Day of Release Roisterer:

From a model design point of view, they left the phantom ass floof on the backside to have it fit better while riding mounts? Can anyone tell me if the real slit works or does the ass still stretch while galloping the lands?

Actually, it works well

Interesting! I didn't understand this design decision at first, but after you've mentioned this detail... Now I see that it has the real purpose for the rider.

This is 0% about quality and 100% about opinion.

I agree!
I would make some changes in every costume just for my taste, but overall there are many good costumes. And this costume is awesome, especially on female characters (thanks to silver buckles)!

The real negative side, for my taste, that this costume looks good only in default colors, or in the same color for all channels. I just don't like dye channels on it

But it has no annoying hip flaps/crotch flaps

Somebody might not like asymmetrical shoulder. I actually like this detail

For the same reason, I like Bloodspawn and Mercenary shoulder styles in my outfits.

It's been long time since I loved a new costume as much as I love Dremora Deceiver Duster.
...Well, during it's recent return, I've finally purchased Gem Prospector costume, and my main character is loving it too. But that costume was first released a year ago, so it's technically not new

Sahqon · July 2021

Bucky_13 wrote: »

If they were to release a couple of perfect costumes/motifs in a row, it's very likely that the servers would implode.

At least then they would implode for some good cause, instead of imploding randomly...

Asardes · July 2021

It's already torn at the armpits, too bad player characters aren't hairy there

NotaDaedraWorshipper · July 2021

Kadraeus wrote: »

Snowstrider wrote: »

Kadraeus wrote: »

Y'all got too many hangups

Well when you are a customer and pay for something you have the right to demand quality if the product does not meet your expectations

This is 0% about quality and 100% about opinion. You can't expect everything to appeal to you specifically just because you paid for it. Everyone has different tastes, so it's literally impossible to make a "quality product" if your definition of a "quality product" is that it simply appeals to your standards.

Yup. I think it's fine. Honestly the "butt puff is less bad than some others, like the Day of Release Roisterer @Fischblut mentioned. I mentioned that one too in my thread about this costume in the Crown subforum. Also it's more or less pronounced on certain personalities and body types.

It dyes quite well, I've noticed no body morphing or weird glitching. The only big issue is the bugged buckles on the female version which I hope will get fixed.

As for the aesthetic with short sleaves, one shoulder armour etc, that is a matter of taste and opinion, not quality. Some like it, some don't.
Even complaining about the name and definition of "duster" is a bit odd to me. It's a dremora's duster. A daedra. Looking at all other daedric styles we can see that practical to them is often something different from ours, if not nonexistent. It even got a pointy metal bit right at the bottom of the deep open cleavage/collar. I doubt protecting against the dust of Oblivion was an idea. Could they have called it a coat? Yes, but duster fits nicer to the name.

Celephantsylvius_Bornasfinmo · July 2021

Agreed. Costume doesn't look good.