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Change the name to Nightblade City
pleximus
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The city is dead because of all the nightblades roaming around destroying every single chance to earn even a single tel var! The game is busted beyond belief when I, as a solo player, can be bombed into oblivion and thus have your solo fight against a boss ruined! The worst part is that you don't even get a chance to earn the tel var because they kill you and leave without continuing boss fight so you have to start all over again (if you're insane since you'll just get bombed again)! It has SPITE written all over it! The only way to bring life back into the city, outside of the event, is by banning the nightblades from it. It's too infuriating to play in there when you get bombed as a solo player and I hardly think that the buffs to flare etc will help in the slightest when you're busy fighting a boss.
It's really, REALLY difficult to not be toxic when it happens! I can hold my own in straight up fights but there is no way in hell I can defend myself against a nightblade who decides to bomb me. I'm dead before I even have a chance to react! This is so wrong on so many levels.
It's really, REALLY difficult to not be toxic when it happens! I can hold my own in straight up fights but there is no way in hell I can defend myself against a nightblade who decides to bomb me. I'm dead before I even have a chance to react! This is so wrong on so many levels.
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XxCaLxX✭✭✭✭✭I understand your frustration but it is pvp and ppl have strategies there. Just have to find a team to run with or continue solo and deal with it. They can’t ban a class from Imp City. Besides each class can be built a way to defeat any other.16 -
amm7sb14_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭It is my belief that invis of any sort don't belong in PVP. But that won't be a very popular opinion. I can't stand gankers.
That said, whenever I do go into IC, I go in on a tank. There is nothing better in PVP than going in on a tank, having a ganker fail to bomb you, and locking him up in CC so he can't get away until other allies come along and kill him.20 -
pleximus✭✭✭✭✭amm7sb14_ESO wrote: »It is my belief that invis of any sort don't belong in PVP. But that won't be a very popular opinion. I can't stand gankers.
That said, whenever I do go into IC, I go in on a tank. There is nothing better in PVP than going in on a tank, having a ganker fail to bomb you, and locking him up in CC so he can't get away until other allies come along and kill him.
So we're now relegated to wearing heavy armour? What a sad state the game is in.0 -
perfiction✭✭✭✭✭You have plenty of ways to detect invisible units and effectively counter gankers, yet you decide to ignore them and go full PVE with mobs, then vent on the forum that you are dying.
https://deltiasgaming.com/2021/06/25/how-to-stop-a-ganker-in-eso/13 -
pleximus✭✭✭✭✭amm7sb14_ESO wrote: »It is my belief that invis of any sort don't belong in PVP. But that won't be a very popular opinion. I can't stand gankers.
That said, whenever I do go into IC, I go in on a tank. There is nothing better in PVP than going in on a tank, having a ganker fail to bomb you, and locking him up in CC so he can't get away until other allies come along and kill him.
THIS is the insulting part: I fought the boss for 10 minutes, having fun, and all of a sudden a person WALKS up to me, kills me and walks off. I can't even describe how angry it makes me game or no game! It's just insulting!6 -
Lauranae✭✭✭✭✭I am very very bad at PVP, and though i manage to do the IC quests. I use sets that remove the sneak penalty move and give less detection of my position. And of course, as i am bad, i go only in IC cp, because i want to benefit of the quickness and detection again. I avoid the use of potions, because those give away my position it seems.
As i am bad, i use a sort of tactic : i take a lot of quests i can. For that i visit all the places in IC to have quests. And i start my long long journey then. If i die in an area, i go in one another, start the quest, work on it, die, rince and repeat. That way i completed all. Took me 3 days. But finished.
If i need some tel var, i go and do the same again.
I am not young, gran'ma here, and its really stressing. But even if i do not do it by PVPers rules, i have fun when i manage to escape a NB or any others killers.Edited by Lauranae on July 15, 2021 6:26PMMy most recent charactersAD - Chjara NB-9 -
pleximus✭✭✭✭✭perfiction wrote: »You have plenty of ways to detect invisible units and effectively counter gankers, yet you decide to ignore them and go full PVE with mobs, then vent on the forum that you are dying.
https://deltiasgaming.com/2021/06/25/how-to-stop-a-ganker-in-eso/
I was in the middle of a boss fight, busy trying to survive its aoe's and someone just walks up and kills you. I had no time to react to anything else. Nightblades have ruined the city!0 -
perfiction✭✭✭✭✭I was in the middle of a boss fight, busy trying to survive its aoe's and someone just walks up and kills you. I had no time to react to anything else. Nightblades have ruined the city!
So you blame other players that you got too focused on the boss and stopped paying attention to your surroundings? Yeah, makes complete sense
Damn those nightblades, my tunnel vision is their fault!Edited by perfiction on July 15, 2021 6:32PM16 -
Sephyr✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭perfiction wrote: »I was in the middle of a boss fight, busy trying to survive its aoe's and someone just walks up and kills you. I had no time to react to anything else. Nightblades have ruined the city!
So you blame other players that you got too focused on the boss and stopped paying attention to your surroundings? Yeah, makes complete sense
Damn those nightblades, they are the reason of my tunnel vision!
I guess we shouldn't be opportunistic. :'(2 -
zvavi✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Hello. I am a sorc. While getting today's IC endeavour I met, a Templar, a necro, a sorc, and a NB. Surprisingly no wardens or dk's today.
There might have been wardens and dk's of my faction that responded to my elven boss on flag zone message, donno, not enemy don't care.Edited by zvavi on July 15, 2021 8:00PM0 -
pleximus✭✭✭✭✭perfiction wrote: »I was in the middle of a boss fight, busy trying to survive its aoe's and someone just walks up and kills you. I had no time to react to anything else. Nightblades have ruined the city!
So you blame other players that you got too focused on the boss and stopped paying attention to your surroundings? Yeah, makes complete sense
Damn those nightblades, my tunnel vision is their fault!
Getting solo bombed is deranged! No one should have that kind of power! And WHY should I be punished because I'm focused on the boss?? That's what boss fights do, they force you to focus on them and only them!0 -
Indigogo✭✭✭✭✭To be fair, sounds like anyone could have shown up and got a quick burst down at that moment. I doubt you would have seen my sorc coming either.8 -
pleximus✭✭✭✭✭To be fair, sounds like anyone could have shown up and got a quick burst down at that moment. I doubt you would have seen my sorc coming either.
I'd at the very least have a chance to get away. It's impossible with bomb-blades. There's no fighting for your life, it's just instant death. It's just deranged logic.2 -
amm7sb14_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭perfiction wrote: »I was in the middle of a boss fight, busy trying to survive its aoe's and someone just walks up and kills you. I had no time to react to anything else. Nightblades have ruined the city!
So you blame other players that you got too focused on the boss and stopped paying attention to your surroundings? Yeah, makes complete sense
Damn those nightblades, they are the reason of my tunnel vision!
I guess we shouldn't be opportunistic. :'(
There's not sporting competition in ganking someone who is pre-occupied or doesn't know what's coming.8 -
pleximus✭✭✭✭✭perfiction wrote: »I was in the middle of a boss fight, busy trying to survive its aoe's and someone just walks up and kills you. I had no time to react to anything else. Nightblades have ruined the city!
So you blame other players that you got too focused on the boss and stopped paying attention to your surroundings? Yeah, makes complete sense
Damn those nightblades, they are the reason of my tunnel vision!
I guess we shouldn't be opportunistic. :'(
Opportunistic? You kill a player BEFORE boss is dead so no one gets the tel var and you just walk away!3 -
Indigogo✭✭✭✭✭I promise any experienced player with high burst would have delivered a similar insta death experience. Nightblades just tilt people that extra bit more.
It's not a dueling zone. No one is walking up to your face and saying, "Hello good sir! Fancy a quick session of fisticuffs? What, no, you're busy? I shall wait another 10 minutes whilst you continue to battle this 2 million hp beast"
It sucks dying on a boss, I know, it's happened to me so I get that pang of annoyance... but no one gets to pve in leisure in IC. That's the whole premise of the zone...Edited by Indigogo on July 15, 2021 7:33PM12 -
pleximus✭✭✭✭✭I promise any experienced player with high burst would have delivered a similar insta death experience. Nightblades just tilt people that extra bit more.
It's not a dueling zone. No one is walking up to your face and saying, "Hello good sir! Fancy a quick session of fisticuffs? What, no, you're busy? I shall wait another 10 minutes whilst you continue to battle this 2 million hp beast"
It sucks dying on a boss, I know, it's happened to me so I get that pang of annoyance... but no one gets to pve in leisure in IC. That's the whole premise of the zone...
I didn't die to the boss, I died due to being bombed. I have no problems taking down bosses as long as I focus on them (which I am). And, AGAIN, I have a chance of getting away with any other class, believe it or not. And I prefer TRYING to survive against other classes compared to insta-kill.1 -
waterfairy✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭perfiction wrote: »I was in the middle of a boss fight, busy trying to survive its aoe's and someone just walks up and kills you. I had no time to react to anything else. Nightblades have ruined the city!
So you blame other players that you got too focused on the boss and stopped paying attention to your surroundings? Yeah, makes complete sense
Damn those nightblades, my tunnel vision is their fault!
Getting solo bombed is deranged! No one should have that kind of power! And WHY should I be punished because I'm focused on the boss?? That's what boss fights do, they force you to focus on them and only them!
I feel your frustration as I go solo most of the time but I go in knowing the risks...you're in a dangerous zone where players and npc's can tag team you so expect to die at some point. I personally try to be decent and leave the solo daily quester alone but don't expect to ever receive such courtesy, expect to get ganked...slot inner light and cast it often if you fear the shadows5 -
pleximus✭✭✭✭✭perfiction wrote: »I was in the middle of a boss fight, busy trying to survive its aoe's and someone just walks up and kills you. I had no time to react to anything else. Nightblades have ruined the city!
So you blame other players that you got too focused on the boss and stopped paying attention to your surroundings? Yeah, makes complete sense
Damn those nightblades, my tunnel vision is their fault!
Getting solo bombed is deranged! No one should have that kind of power! And WHY should I be punished because I'm focused on the boss?? That's what boss fights do, they force you to focus on them and only them!
I feel your frustration as I go solo most of the time but I go in knowing the risks...you're in a dangerous zone where players and npc's can tag team you so expect to die at some point. I personally try to be decent and leave the solo daily quester alone but don't expect to ever receive such courtesy, expect to get ganked...slot inner light and cast it often if you fear the shadows
It's the bombing of a single player that I find disgusting and insulting! There's no difference between that and dying to a 1-hit boss. You have absolutely no chance to recover or even attempt at that. You just die. Period. Right then and there. Dead as dead can be.0 -
waterfairy✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭perfiction wrote: »I was in the middle of a boss fight, busy trying to survive its aoe's and someone just walks up and kills you. I had no time to react to anything else. Nightblades have ruined the city!
So you blame other players that you got too focused on the boss and stopped paying attention to your surroundings? Yeah, makes complete sense
Damn those nightblades, my tunnel vision is their fault!
Getting solo bombed is deranged! No one should have that kind of power! And WHY should I be punished because I'm focused on the boss?? That's what boss fights do, they force you to focus on them and only them!
I feel your frustration as I go solo most of the time but I go in knowing the risks...you're in a dangerous zone where players and npc's can tag team you so expect to die at some point. I personally try to be decent and leave the solo daily quester alone but don't expect to ever receive such courtesy, expect to get ganked...slot inner light and cast it often if you fear the shadows
It's the bombing of a single player that I find disgusting and insulting! There's no difference between that and dying to a 1-hit boss. You have absolutely no chance to recover or even attempt at that. You just die. Period. Right then and there. Dead as dead can be.
1 shot ganking happens from stealth attack that's why I said keep inner light or something similar up to reveal them then just be ready to block or roll dodge once you spot them...they won't be able to 1 shot you once you expose them unless you're super squishy2 -
Call_of_Red_Mountain✭✭✭✭"If you can't beat them, join them."Edited by Call_of_Red_Mountain on July 25, 2021 5:12PM1 -
kmcaj✭✭✭✭✭Solo boss fighters are my favourite targets. I can't beat a boss on my build but when someone else gets them down close to death for me not much of an issue. Plus the telvar from boss is nice and hopefully the victim has plenty to share.9
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amm7sb14_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭I promise any experienced player with high burst would have delivered a similar insta death experience. Nightblades just tilt people that extra bit more.
It's not a dueling zone. No one is walking up to your face and saying, "Hello good sir! Fancy a quick session of fisticuffs? What, no, you're busy? I shall wait another 10 minutes whilst you continue to battle this 2 million hp beast"
It sucks dying on a boss, I know, it's happened to me so I get that pang of annoyance... but no one gets to pve in leisure in IC. That's the whole premise of the zone...
Defeats the whole purpose of PVP then
So many PVP'ers always talk about "PVP is more exciting than PVE because of the human element, it's less predictable, and more challenging", and then turn around and go out in tanker builds to bomb unsuspecting PVE'ers who aren't properly equipped to defend themselves, offer less challenge than the easiest of PVE overland, and then post on the forums wanting to ban tank builds in PVP because they can't gank anymore.
No. You can't have it both ways. The purpose of PVP is the competitive element. You can't seek out a competitive environment and then turn around and promote PVE bombing of players who can't fight back.7 -
kmcaj✭✭✭✭✭amm7sb14_ESO wrote: »I promise any experienced player with high burst would have delivered a similar insta death experience. Nightblades just tilt people that extra bit more.
It's not a dueling zone. No one is walking up to your face and saying, "Hello good sir! Fancy a quick session of fisticuffs? What, no, you're busy? I shall wait another 10 minutes whilst you continue to battle this 2 million hp beast"
It sucks dying on a boss, I know, it's happened to me so I get that pang of annoyance... but no one gets to pve in leisure in IC. That's the whole premise of the zone...
Defeats the whole purpose of PVP then
So many PVP'ers always talk about "PVP is more exciting than PVE because of the human element, it's less predictable, and more challenging", and then turn around and go out in tanker builds to bomb unsuspecting PVE'ers who aren't properly equipped to defend themselves, offer less challenge than the easiest of PVE overland, and then post on the forums wanting to ban tank builds in PVP because they can't gank anymore.
No. You can't have it both ways. The purpose of PVP is the competitive element. You can't seek out a competitive environment and then turn around and promote PVE bombing of players who can't fight back.
The best part of stealth play is destroying the unsuspecting and doing so in a way that they have zero chance to recover. IC is a great option for this style of play. It's also very easy to get wrecked when things dont go well. If you want fair competitive PVP there are duels. There is nothing fair about fights in IC nor should there be.7 -
paulychan✭✭✭✭a good tactic is to bomb right after the boss kill. that bomber missed out on some tel var. as a bomber, however, I will admit to bombing someone just cause it's fun. we know it's infuriating. we know2
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amm7sb14_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭amm7sb14_ESO wrote: »I promise any experienced player with high burst would have delivered a similar insta death experience. Nightblades just tilt people that extra bit more.
It's not a dueling zone. No one is walking up to your face and saying, "Hello good sir! Fancy a quick session of fisticuffs? What, no, you're busy? I shall wait another 10 minutes whilst you continue to battle this 2 million hp beast"
It sucks dying on a boss, I know, it's happened to me so I get that pang of annoyance... but no one gets to pve in leisure in IC. That's the whole premise of the zone...
Defeats the whole purpose of PVP then
So many PVP'ers always talk about "PVP is more exciting than PVE because of the human element, it's less predictable, and more challenging", and then turn around and go out in tanker builds to bomb unsuspecting PVE'ers who aren't properly equipped to defend themselves, offer less challenge than the easiest of PVE overland, and then post on the forums wanting to ban tank builds in PVP because they can't gank anymore.
No. You can't have it both ways. The purpose of PVP is the competitive element. You can't seek out a competitive environment and then turn around and promote PVE bombing of players who can't fight back.
The best part of stealth play is destroying the unsuspecting and doing so in a way that they have zero chance to recover. IC is a great option for this style of play. It's also very easy to get wrecked when things dont go well. If you want fair competitive PVP there are duels. There is nothing fair about fights in IC nor should there be.
I would buy this if there weren't threads every week from bombers asking for tanks to be nerfed.
Gankers don't want a fight. They want an I win button7 -
MrGhosty✭✭✭✭✭This is a pretty cut and dried example of the zone functioning as intended. I say that as a person who loathes imperial city for exactly the same reason. I only venture in during some specific guild events and midyear mayhem because my love of tickets overcomes my dislike for IC. Fighting mobs and bosses in IC require a different strategy than in PvE zones precisely because you cannot predict when a player is going to strike you from stealth. If you can hold your own against other classes then you know that you probably need to adjust your build to deal with Nightblades. Good news is slotting revealing flare will grant some protection in the next patch so you'll have a skill to block stealth and get some extra protection against ganks at the same time."It is a time of strife and unrest. Armies of revenants and dark spirits manifest in every corner of Tamriel. Winters grow colder and crops fail. Mystics are plagued by nightmares and portents of doom."5
