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Change the name to Nightblade City
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mustangmorgan31✭✭✭✭Take me down to Imperial City where the grass is dead and the daedra are [snip]
Oh won't you please take me home
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MrMazurski✭✭✭IC is very specific to pvp zones.
If you're not a ganker yourself, you currently need to go to a very tank build. NPC monster are very easy.
Find other people to play IC. Search by PVP guilds, write to zone chat "lfg" or make your own.
The bigger problem is actually the bombblades, which can get Tel Var's XXXX value for one blast, which for me is very unfair.
And no "high risk, high reward" is irrelevant here, because the bomber does not take any risk of losing Tel var stones. Have only chance for high reward.amm7sb14_ESO wrote: »amm7sb14_ESO wrote: »I promise any experienced player with high burst would have delivered a similar insta death experience. Nightblades just tilt people that extra bit more.
It's not a dueling zone. No one is walking up to your face and saying, "Hello good sir! Fancy a quick session of fisticuffs? What, no, you're busy? I shall wait another 10 minutes whilst you continue to battle this 2 million hp beast"
It sucks dying on a boss, I know, it's happened to me so I get that pang of annoyance... but no one gets to pve in leisure in IC. That's the whole premise of the zone...
Defeats the whole purpose of PVP then
So many PVP'ers always talk about "PVP is more exciting than PVE because of the human element, it's less predictable, and more challenging", and then turn around and go out in tanker builds to bomb unsuspecting PVE'ers who aren't properly equipped to defend themselves, offer less challenge than the easiest of PVE overland, and then post on the forums wanting to ban tank builds in PVP because they can't gank anymore.
No. You can't have it both ways. The purpose of PVP is the competitive element. You can't seek out a competitive environment and then turn around and promote PVE bombing of players who can't fight back.
The best part of stealth play is destroying the unsuspecting and doing so in a way that they have zero chance to recover. IC is a great option for this style of play. It's also very easy to get wrecked when things dont go well. If you want fair competitive PVP there are duels. There is nothing fair about fights in IC nor should there be.
I would buy this if there weren't threads every week from bombers asking for tanks to be nerfed.
Gankers don't want a fight. They want an I win button
True.perfiction wrote: »I was in the middle of a boss fight, busy trying to survive its aoe's and someone just walks up and kills you. I had no time to react to anything else. Nightblades have ruined the city!
So you blame other players that you got too focused on the boss and stopped paying attention to your surroundings? Yeah, makes complete sense
Damn those nightblades, my tunnel vision is their fault!
Ohhh easy to say. Most of the IC bosses have very strong mechanics that are able to put even Tanks down quickly (I mean build, not role). Especially if you are in a smaller group that lacks a larger heal. so they require your focus
The other side, such a bombblade or ganker does not wave to you "hey hey, I'm waiting for you to finish the boss then I'll jump on you for a moment." so I don't think you see the hidden guy waiting 30-40 meters from the bossEdited by MrMazurski on July 15, 2021 10:01PM- Where "Update on Cyrodiil Performance & Upcoming AOE Tests"? I wish ZOS would stop kicking players' balls, especially those on Cyro
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✭✭✭✭✭MrMazurski wrote: »The other side, such a bombblade or ganker does not wave to you "hey hey, I'm waiting for you to finish the boss then I'll jump on you for a moment." so I don't think you see the hidden guy waiting 30-40 meters from the boss
Horrors got a detection ring around them, so as long as you hug them you are safe from bombers.3 -
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✭✭✭mustangmorgan31 wrote: »Take me down to Imperial City where the grass is dead and the daedra are [snip]
Oh won't you please take me home (...)
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✭✭redlink1979 wrote: »mustangmorgan31 wrote: »Take me down to Imperial City where the grass is dead and the daedra are [snip]
Oh won't you please take me home (...)
If it was Buckethead, I'd give you an awesome.
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✭If it's so unfair & easy to be a nightblade ganker... then maybe go there with a night blade? Obviously IC is not dead as there are plenty of nightblades
I thought the same when I was a noob at pvp.. tried my hand at being a nightblade and died as many times as I got kills. It's 9nly easy when your opponent doesn't know how to deal with nightblades.NA Server [PC] -- Mostly Ebonheart Pact, Mostly.6 -
EllieBlue✭✭✭✭Solo boss fighters are my favourite targets. I can't beat a boss on my build but when someone else gets them down close to death for me not much of an issue. Plus the telvar from boss is nice and hopefully the victim has plenty to share.
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I am claustrophobic so I absolutely detest IC. Being chased through the tunnels sends me into a mild panic attack so eff that. I rarely go in there and if and when I have the unfortunate need to do so, I make sure to bring some decent friends that I know will save my sorry ass.
Don't know what else to say really.
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Sephyr✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭perfiction wrote: »I was in the middle of a boss fight, busy trying to survive its aoe's and someone just walks up and kills you. I had no time to react to anything else. Nightblades have ruined the city!
So you blame other players that you got too focused on the boss and stopped paying attention to your surroundings? Yeah, makes complete sense
Damn those nightblades, they are the reason of my tunnel vision!
I guess we shouldn't be opportunistic. :'(
Opportunistic? You kill a player BEFORE boss is dead so no one gets the tel var and you just walk away!
No, I kill them right as they kill the boss. Anyone who knows anything about real ganking knows that's when you do it. That's what opportunism is. Unless they're near death, then I pick them off if the boss isn't even close to execute phase.
Edit: And as others have said, bosses have rings of protection, so they can't exactly gank you until after they're dead anyways if you stay close to them.Edited by Sephyr on July 15, 2021 11:31PM1 -
Gilvoth✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭The city is dead because of all the nightblades roaming around destroying every single chance to earn even a single tel var! The game is busted beyond belief when I, as a solo player, can be bombed into oblivion and thus have your solo fight against a boss ruined! The worst part is that you don't even get a chance to earn the tel var because they kill you and leave without continuing boss fight so you have to start all over again (if you're insane since you'll just get bombed again)! It has SPITE written all over it! The only way to bring life back into the city, outside of the event, is by banning the nightblades from it. It's too infuriating to play in there when you get bombed as a solo player and I hardly think that the buffs to flare etc will help in the slightest when you're busy fighting a boss.
It's really, REALLY difficult to not be toxic when it happens! I can hold my own in straight up fights but there is no way in hell I can defend myself against a nightblade who decides to bomb me. I'm dead before I even have a chance to react! This is so wrong on so many levels.
well thats exactly how i feel about sorcerers.
they have way too much damage and way too much defenses.
been that way for over 8 years now, sorcerers are the problem, not nightblades.
Edited by Gilvoth on July 16, 2021 1:21AM1 -
waterfairy✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Solo boss fighters are my favourite targets. I can't beat a boss on my build but when someone else gets them down close to death for me not much of an issue. Plus the telvar from boss is nice and hopefully the victim has plenty to share.
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I am claustrophobic so I absolutely detest IC. Being chased through the tunnels sends me into a mild panic attack so eff that. I rarely go in there and if and when I have the unfortunate need to do so, I make sure to bring some decent friends that I know will save my sorry ass.
Don't know what else to say really.
who stays in the sewers? the districts are more open and where all the action is because that's where the dailies are
the only time I'm down in the sewers is during the event and the drop rates from molag are slightly less impossible
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Sephyr✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Solo boss fighters are my favourite targets. I can't beat a boss on my build but when someone else gets them down close to death for me not much of an issue. Plus the telvar from boss is nice and hopefully the victim has plenty to share.
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I am claustrophobic so I absolutely detest IC. Being chased through the tunnels sends me into a mild panic attack so eff that. I rarely go in there and if and when I have the unfortunate need to do so, I make sure to bring some decent friends that I know will save my sorry ass.
Don't know what else to say really.
who stays in the sewers? the districts are more open and where all the action is because that's where the dailies are
the only time I'm down in the sewers is during the event and the drop rates from molag are slightly less impossible
There's a few good loops in the sewers and that's why a lot stay down there. It's rarely overrun by zergs unlike the districts.
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MrMazurski✭✭✭MrMazurski wrote: »The other side, such a bombblade or ganker does not wave to you "hey hey, I'm waiting for you to finish the boss then I'll jump on you for a moment." so I don't think you see the hidden guy waiting 30-40 meters from the boss
Horrors got a detection ring around them, so as long as you hug them you are safe from bombers.
not completely. Additionally no bomber jumps during the boss fight. They do it after killing him. And here is probably a big suprise. A dead boss has no ring detection.
Does this ring protect you from a long distans gank? you will receive aggro boss faster than this ring gives you any defense against the gank- Where "Update on Cyrodiil Performance & Upcoming AOE Tests"? I wish ZOS would stop kicking players' balls, especially those on Cyro
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coletas✭✭✭✭The city is dead because of all the nightblades roaming around destroying every single chance to earn even a single tel var! The game is busted beyond belief when I, as a solo player, can be bombed into oblivion and thus have your solo fight against a boss ruined! The worst part is that you don't even get a chance to earn the tel var because they kill you and leave without continuing boss fight so you have to start all over again (if you're insane since you'll just get bombed again)! It has SPITE written all over it! The only way to bring life back into the city, outside of the event, is by banning the nightblades from it. It's too infuriating to play in there when you get bombed as a solo player and I hardly think that the buffs to flare etc will help in the slightest when you're busy fighting a boss.
It's really, REALLY difficult to not be toxic when it happens! I can hold my own in straight up fights but there is no way in hell I can defend myself against a nightblade who decides to bomb me. I'm dead before I even have a chance to react! This is so wrong on so many levels.
Hi @plexiums... In that situation, without shields, without imovables, in front of boss, in a corner... I didnt resisted and I even didnt waited to you to kill the boss lol ... Well, in that situation you would be killed from anyone... Believe me, anyone... You were really exposed. Whats not normal is all what you whispered me after that and I will omit here. Im terrible sorry (really, believe me) of the pain I made to suffer you so if you want the telvars you was going to earn just tell me ok? But please, keep calm when killed in a PvP zone, its a game... You can learn from everything, specially from mistakes. Block casting the boss is your friend in a situation like today and keeping a shield up a must. Well, again, im sorry man. Take care and hope you are who streak me to hell on my next failed bomb run (which are the most! Lol)3 -
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✭Someone made the point in another thread a few weeks back that entirety of IC is toxic by design. Having played PvP for years now, I've done plenty of runs in IC over those years and I would honestly attribute IC's issues right now to being balance related. Damage is really high, so more people spec nightblades, more people picking nightblades means more ganks.
That all said, I think the point the person made in that thread was very spot on. The nature of IC is toxic and not a fun place - in fairness to ZoS I dont think that was their intention, most people go there to make money thats it - its not about the PvP in there its about the gold. I don't know a single person who goes in IC for PvP - the people that do are a very small amount of the PvP community which is already a small portion of the larger ESO community and are the people who like seeing big numbers in one go. The only argument I can rationally consider is that would possibly be a good reason to not make any changes to IC is purely in-game economics (Hakeijo prices crashing and thus prismatic defense glyphs becoming insanely cheap). Anyway I am ranting now back on topic;
The only thing I can suggest is that you try to play in IC at specific times when the least amount of people are on, this isn't ideal if you have a job or other commitments but if you want to avoid night blades that would be how to do it.
To the people that are citing the ways to counter them, I agree with most of it but remember that detect pots are very buggy and often dont work and if they're crit damage gank builds (which is most likely) you won't get a chance to react anyway.
There is currently no place for a solo player in PvP unless you're a hardcore PvPer or a nightblade.
Sincerely, a magblade main
P.s When can I be a class again?Edited by xeNNNNN on July 16, 2021 1:09AMAh, e-communities - the "pinnacle" of the internet............yeah, right.2 -
StamPlar_1976✭✭✭✭amm7sb14_ESO wrote: »perfiction wrote: »I was in the middle of a boss fight, busy trying to survive its aoe's and someone just walks up and kills you. I had no time to react to anything else. Nightblades have ruined the city!
So you blame other players that you got too focused on the boss and stopped paying attention to your surroundings? Yeah, makes complete sense
Damn those nightblades, they are the reason of my tunnel vision!
I guess we shouldn't be opportunistic. :'(
There's not sporting competition in ganking someone who is pre-occupied or doesn't know what's coming.
That's cute that you think it's about sporting competition lol. It's about getting kills by any means necessary. Red = dead and all that jazz. I could care less about an honorable fight or your respect. If you're not Pact, you're prey.4 -
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✭✭StamPlar_1976 wrote: »amm7sb14_ESO wrote: »perfiction wrote: »I was in the middle of a boss fight, busy trying to survive its aoe's and someone just walks up and kills you. I had no time to react to anything else. Nightblades have ruined the city!
So you blame other players that you got too focused on the boss and stopped paying attention to your surroundings? Yeah, makes complete sense
Damn those nightblades, they are the reason of my tunnel vision!
I guess we shouldn't be opportunistic. :'(
There's not sporting competition in ganking someone who is pre-occupied or doesn't know what's coming.
That's cute that you think it's about sporting competition lol. It's about getting kills by any means necessary. Red = dead and all that jazz. I could care less about an honorable fight or your respect. If you're not Pact, you're prey.
Agreed that it's not a sporting competition at all in the IC. It's just aggressive peek-a-boo.
Edit: Edited to mostly clarify! Though it's a shame you're on Pact. We could'a been friends in murder and mayhem. :'( Life is so cruel!
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✭✭IC is great for a non-PvP player! After writing a scouting report I que IC from Cryo and walk out of door.
Edited by rpa on July 16, 2021 3:47AM2 -
pleximus✭✭✭✭✭Solo boss fighters are my favourite targets. I can't beat a boss on my build but when someone else gets them down close to death for me not much of an issue. Plus the telvar from boss is nice and hopefully the victim has plenty to share.
I agree, you can at least wait until the boss is killed so both boss fighter and ganker can share the tel var.0 -
pleximus✭✭✭✭✭perfiction wrote: »I was in the middle of a boss fight, busy trying to survive its aoe's and someone just walks up and kills you. I had no time to react to anything else. Nightblades have ruined the city!
So you blame other players that you got too focused on the boss and stopped paying attention to your surroundings? Yeah, makes complete sense
Damn those nightblades, they are the reason of my tunnel vision!
I guess we shouldn't be opportunistic. :'(
Opportunistic? You kill a player BEFORE boss is dead so no one gets the tel var and you just walk away!
No, I kill them right as they kill the boss. Anyone who knows anything about real ganking knows that's when you do it. That's what opportunism is. Unless they're near death, then I pick them off if the boss isn't even close to execute phase.
Edit: And as others have said, bosses have rings of protection, so they can't exactly gank you until after they're dead anyways if you stay close to them.
I fought the boss upstairs, where it would be impossible to remain undetected but I still got bombed into oblivion. So no, the boss' ring of protection is worthless.0 -
Sephyr✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭perfiction wrote: »I was in the middle of a boss fight, busy trying to survive its aoe's and someone just walks up and kills you. I had no time to react to anything else. Nightblades have ruined the city!
So you blame other players that you got too focused on the boss and stopped paying attention to your surroundings? Yeah, makes complete sense
Damn those nightblades, they are the reason of my tunnel vision!
I guess we shouldn't be opportunistic. :'(
Opportunistic? You kill a player BEFORE boss is dead so no one gets the tel var and you just walk away!
No, I kill them right as they kill the boss. Anyone who knows anything about real ganking knows that's when you do it. That's what opportunism is. Unless they're near death, then I pick them off if the boss isn't even close to execute phase.
Edit: And as others have said, bosses have rings of protection, so they can't exactly gank you until after they're dead anyways if you stay close to them.
I fought the boss upstairs, where it would be impossible to remain undetected but I still got bombed into oblivion. So no, the boss' ring of protection is worthless.
Situational awareness. If it wasn't possible to remain undetected and you still got bombed, you simply weren't aware of your surroundings. The more and more I see your posts, it sounds more like there's a vendetta there. You got bombed because you weren't paying attention in a zone where it's vital that you pay attention. It's not a Nightblade's fault that you're tunnel visioning on a boss.Edited by Sephyr on July 16, 2021 5:10PM3 -
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✭✭Take me down to the Nighblade city
Where the PvEers are dead and the bombers are plenty
Oh wont you please take me home?
Just an urchin livin' under street, Im a nightblade thats tough to beat
Im your charity case, so buy me some hakejo runes, I'll gank you at another time, take it to the end of the line
Risk vs reward, or so they say, you gotta keep pushin' for that telvar and AP
You know it's, its all a gamble when its just a game
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irswat✭✭✭✭Not sure bombed is the right word. Getting bombed refers to dying from another person dying and exploding from vicious death proc. That cant happen if you're alone. Sounds like you get ganked. I do understand the frustration. It is the most frustrating experience when im in IC trying to kill a boss solo for some good telvar and some nb sneaks up and ganks me right as boss is about to die. I usually react by yelling out loud of their cowardice and lack of honor. The times that I don't get ganked are worth it though.0
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✭✭✭✭✭amm7sb14_ESO wrote: »It is my belief that invis of any sort don't belong in PVP. But that won't be a very popular opinion. I can't stand gankers.
That said, whenever I do go into IC, I go in on a tank. There is nothing better in PVP than going in on a tank, having a ganker fail to bomb you, and locking him up in CC so he can't get away until other allies come along and kill him.
So we're now relegated to wearing heavy armour? What a sad state the game is in.
...yeah, if you want to survive getting slapped around by angry stabby bois, the best solution is to stick a layer of metal over your unstabbed bits.
Legitimately, because of how IC is designed, you're better off rolling with a coordinated team, even in "the off-season." But, also, yes, PvP is a situation where rolling in heavy armor as a DPS is a pretty good idea. Even using a S&B isn't a terrible idea for a DPS in the Imperial City (and Cyrodiil), because you do get the extra durability.
It's a different metagame from PvE, where players focus on maximum damage and glass canons, because you can safely operate around the callouts. In PvPvE, you can't expect the same degree of warning, and will need to prepare for the unexpected. So, put some armor on before you go into a warzone.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭sometimes even keeping your back to the wall doesn't help, cuz, well:
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yeah, stuff happens...
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pleximus✭✭✭✭✭perfiction wrote: »I was in the middle of a boss fight, busy trying to survive its aoe's and someone just walks up and kills you. I had no time to react to anything else. Nightblades have ruined the city!
So you blame other players that you got too focused on the boss and stopped paying attention to your surroundings? Yeah, makes complete sense
Damn those nightblades, they are the reason of my tunnel vision!
I guess we shouldn't be opportunistic. :'(
Opportunistic? You kill a player BEFORE boss is dead so no one gets the tel var and you just walk away!
No, I kill them right as they kill the boss. Anyone who knows anything about real ganking knows that's when you do it. That's what opportunism is. Unless they're near death, then I pick them off if the boss isn't even close to execute phase.
Edit: And as others have said, bosses have rings of protection, so they can't exactly gank you until after they're dead anyways if you stay close to them.
I fought the boss upstairs, where it would be impossible to remain undetected but I still got bombed into oblivion. So no, the boss' ring of protection is worthless.
Situational awareness. If it wasn't possible to remain undetected and you still got bombed, you simply weren't aware of your surroundings. The more and more I see your posts, it sounds more like there's a vendetta there. You got bombed because you weren't paying attention in a zone where it's vital that you pay attention. It's not a Nightblade's fault that you're tunnel visioning on a boss.
I have no personal vendetta. And, AGAIN, I'm focused on surviving the boss mechanics while fighting it. What makes you think that it's such an easy thing to notice an invisible player who just walks up to you, kills you and walks off? YES, WALKS IN AND OUT! There were no blade or bow attacks, just bombing into oblivion!0 -
Lauranae✭✭✭✭✭Just a little information from the bad bad one gran'ma in IC.
When i am killed by a pvper, being a bomber or not, while i am doing a boss, I have two solutions
1 - i check first before rezzing if that player is killing *my* boss. If yes, i dont rezz and let him finish it. WHy ? because i still have the achievement. And i was surprised at first, but i did get the achievement for the kill. Even if i dont loot it.
2 - if that player leave, or hide to ambush me in the hope i will come back .... nope lol i am not that foolish.
Though i happened lately to be foolish, and sometimes i found them still fighting *my* boss.
So i approach hidden and slow, and when the boss is near to be dead, i attack the boss too, as i know the player wont give up on the boss immediatly. When the boss is quasi dead, i hide again and move into another postion until the player goes away. I even then have the rights to use the chests.
i admit that it is not very fair play as i benefit from an enemy, BUT as you all say, pvp is not really fair play right ? and after all you always got a lot of my tel var so its fine :PMy most recent charactersAD - Chjara NB-3 -
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✭✭✭✭✭perfiction wrote: »I was in the middle of a boss fight, busy trying to survive its aoe's and someone just walks up and kills you. I had no time to react to anything else. Nightblades have ruined the city!
So you blame other players that you got too focused on the boss and stopped paying attention to your surroundings? Yeah, makes complete sense
Damn those nightblades, they are the reason of my tunnel vision!
I guess we shouldn't be opportunistic. :'(
Opportunistic? You kill a player BEFORE boss is dead so no one gets the tel var and you just walk away!
No, I kill them right as they kill the boss. Anyone who knows anything about real ganking knows that's when you do it. That's what opportunism is. Unless they're near death, then I pick them off if the boss isn't even close to execute phase.
Edit: And as others have said, bosses have rings of protection, so they can't exactly gank you until after they're dead anyways if you stay close to them.
I fought the boss upstairs, where it would be impossible to remain undetected but I still got bombed into oblivion. So no, the boss' ring of protection is worthless.
Situational awareness. If it wasn't possible to remain undetected and you still got bombed, you simply weren't aware of your surroundings. The more and more I see your posts, it sounds more like there's a vendetta there. You got bombed because you weren't paying attention in a zone where it's vital that you pay attention. It's not a Nightblade's fault that you're tunnel visioning on a boss.
I have no personal vendetta. And, AGAIN, I'm focused on surviving the boss mechanics while fighting it. What makes you think that it's such an easy thing to notice an invisible player who just walks up to you, kills you and walks off? YES, WALKS IN AND OUT! There were no blade or bow attacks, just bombing into oblivion!
very good chance, they were watching you for a little while, waiting for your health bar to dip a bit...imperial city can be a fun place to hang out in stealth and watch other players/groups...
but, yeah, nothing can be done about the situation...just got to dust yourself off and try again, or try something different...PVP Campaigns Section: Playstation NA and EU (Gray Host) - This Must be the Place2 -
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✭✭✭✭✭perfiction wrote: »I was in the middle of a boss fight, busy trying to survive its aoe's and someone just walks up and kills you. I had no time to react to anything else. Nightblades have ruined the city!
So you blame other players that you got too focused on the boss and stopped paying attention to your surroundings? Yeah, makes complete sense
Damn those nightblades, they are the reason of my tunnel vision!
I guess we shouldn't be opportunistic. :'(
Opportunistic? You kill a player BEFORE boss is dead so no one gets the tel var and you just walk away!
No, I kill them right as they kill the boss. Anyone who knows anything about real ganking knows that's when you do it. That's what opportunism is. Unless they're near death, then I pick them off if the boss isn't even close to execute phase.
Edit: And as others have said, bosses have rings of protection, so they can't exactly gank you until after they're dead anyways if you stay close to them.
I fought the boss upstairs, where it would be impossible to remain undetected but I still got bombed into oblivion. So no, the boss' ring of protection is worthless.
Situational awareness. If it wasn't possible to remain undetected and you still got bombed, you simply weren't aware of your surroundings. The more and more I see your posts, it sounds more like there's a vendetta there. You got bombed because you weren't paying attention in a zone where it's vital that you pay attention. It's not a Nightblade's fault that you're tunnel visioning on a boss.
I have no personal vendetta. And, AGAIN, I'm focused on surviving the boss mechanics while fighting it. What makes you think that it's such an easy thing to notice an invisible player who just walks up to you, kills you and walks off? YES, WALKS IN AND OUT! There were no blade or bow attacks, just bombing into oblivion!
very good chance, they were watching you for a little while, waiting for your health bar to dip a bit...imperial city can be a fun place to hang out in stealth and watch other players/groups...
but, yeah, nothing can be done about the situation...just got to dust yourself off and try again, or try something different...
Yeah, as someone who does run solo in the IC... I'm never going to open fire on an enemy at full health unless I have a very good reason to. I'm going to wait for a sign of weakness before snuffing them. If I don't think I can reliably put them down before they have the chance to react, I'm not going to engage.1
