So the endeavours... again...

Jeirno · June 2021

Don't like them? Don't do them. That is a YOU problem, not anyone elses.

TequilaFire · June 2021

Apparently killing a guard in a keep counts as a Cyro delve boss. lmao

SilverBride · June 2021

Fennwitty wrote: »

But hardcore 'casual' players will need/want at least three casual, base-game activities per day to get all the seals they can.

I speculate a lot of "hardcore casual" players are members of the Thieves Guild and the Dark Brotherhood, so those endeavors were not a problem.

Dark_Lord_Kuro · June 2021

Morgha_Kul wrote: »

So, today there's only 2 endeavours I can do.
I'm not a wretched thief, so no heists.
I'm not a bloody murderer, so no sacraments.
I'm not interested in PvP, and have no interest in being cannon fodder for someone else's fun, so no Cyrodiil.

That leaves the Chests (no problem) and the Reptiles.
Interestingly, after doing Wayrest Sewers I, apparently the Alligator Boss isn't a reptile.
Neither are any of the Dunerippers in Volenfell.
Neither are any of the many Argonians I killed in both dungeons.

Disappointing.

There shouldn't be multiple endeavours on any given day that require a particular role or guild (or PvX). No more than one from any guild or particular role, keep as many as possible as general as possible (things like killing reptiles, opening chests, harvesting materials, etc. that can be done by anyone, PvE or PvP).

Well you chose not to participate in those activity and therefore chose not to get reward asociated with them

Arafyn · June 2021

TequilaFire wrote: »

Apparently killing a guard in a keep counts as a Cyro delve boss. lmao

Really? I cleared 3 delves and never got credit for that one, ended up doing the antiquities as the last one,

Ravensilver · June 2021

Actually, I really like the scope of the endeavours. There's not only something there for everyone (granted, you may not want to do all three, but at least one of them should be agreeable to you), but they enliven the zones, bring people back to older content and so enliven the game.
So far I've done my three every day and even the 30 WB weekly. There was a perfect spot for doing that one in Glenumbra, where you could wander from WB to dark anchor and back, collecting a nice batch of loot and xp while doing so. There were a lot of people there, so kills were fast and I finished the 30 WB weekly really quick.

And in the end, doing endeavours is entirely voluntarily. You're collecting currency for cosmetic items.

I appreciate the fact that all the endeavours give me xp, so I can lvl up my green CP tree the way I want to...

luen79rwb17_ESO · June 2021

I tried the "kill Cyrodiil delve boss" just after reset and went to Lipsand Tarn, killed the boss 3 times and the endeavor didnt' register =/

alberichtano · June 2021

Morgha_Kul wrote: »

So, today there's only 2 endeavours I can do.
I'm not a wretched thief, so no heists.
I'm not a bloody murderer, so no sacraments.
I'm not interested in PvP, and have no interest in being cannon fodder for someone else's fun, so no Cyrodiil.

That leaves the Chests (no problem) and the Reptiles.
Interestingly, after doing Wayrest Sewers I, apparently the Alligator Boss isn't a reptile.
Neither are any of the Dunerippers in Volenfell.
Neither are any of the many Argonians I killed in both dungeons.

Disappointing.

There shouldn't be multiple endeavours on any given day that require a particular role or guild (or PvX). No more than one from any guild or particular role, keep as many as possible as general as possible (things like killing reptiles, opening chests, harvesting materials, etc. that can be done by anyone, PvE or PvP).

Well it is an old fact that argonians aren't reptiles, to be honest. Their females have breasts like mammals.

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Lumsdenml · June 2021

Morgha_Kul wrote: »

what_the wrote: »

Morgha_Kul wrote: »

So, today there's only 2 endeavours I can do.
I'm not a wretched thief, so no heists.
I'm not a bloody murderer, so no sacraments.
I'm not interested in PvP, and have no interest in being cannon fodder for someone else's fun, so no Cyrodiil.

Disappointing.

So, it's not that you can't do them, you just don't want to do them....mmm..ok...

No... I CAN'T do them. I don't do thieving. I'm not in the Thieves' Guild, so I CAN NOT do heists. I'm not in the Dark Brotherhood, so I CAN NOT do Sacraments.
Granted, I choose not to go to the PvP zone where other people can delight in stopping me from doing something that doesn't affect them in any way. But, since I can't survive more than about 2 seconds in PvP... I express that as "I can't do PvP."

They should limit the number of endeavours that are dependent on a particular faction, guild or gameplay, so that at least three will be fairly generic, that anyone can do.

For example, if there's to be 5 endeavours, they might be...

1. PvP oriented: Defeat 3 players in PvP.
2. PvE oriented: Complete 1 Dungeon.
3. Generic: Gather 5 cloth plants (can be done anywhere).
4. Generic: Defeat 10 foes with weapon skills (can be done anywhere).
5. Generic: Sell 10 items to an NPC trader (can be done anywhere).

If more than one of those generic endeavours was another PvP or PvE specific one, or if it required membership (especially high level membership) in a guild or faction, then it will make it nearly impossible for some people to accomplish the three daily endeavours.

If you decide to go into Cyrodiil, let me know when and what campaign. My NB ganker would like to meet you.

Lumsdenml · June 2021

TequilaFire wrote: »

Apparently killing a guard in a keep counts as a Cyro delve boss. lmao

Right? I went to recapture a resource and killed the first guard and was like, "WHAAAAAAT???"

starkerealm · June 2021

Lumsdenml wrote: »

TequilaFire wrote: »

Apparently killing a guard in a keep counts as a Cyro delve boss. lmao

Right? I went to recapture a resource and killed the first guard and was like, "WHAAAAAAT???"

Got credit for that in Valastrus. Cyrodiil is a silly place.

TequilaFire · July 2021

Puzzle endeavors, figure out what you actually have to do to complete them.

MasterSpatula · July 2021

I do have thief characters and assassin characters, but I absolutely cannot stand Sacraments and Heists. And I'd rather actually PVP than do the town quests. So I let one slide. No biggie. It'll happen many times in the future, I'm sure.

katanagirl1 · July 2021

I decided to do 5 BGs for the weekly endeavor, I have a PvP toon for Cyro but I’m not a fan of BGs. I thought it would give me a chance to get a few more style pages.

I have to say that BGs really suck now that you can’t choose what type anymore, it’s random.

Jaraal · July 2021

Morgha_Kul wrote: »

Neither are any of the many Argonians I killed in both dungeons.

Argonians aren't reptiles, as the females have mammary glands.

Icy_Waffles · July 2021

Agreed. Haha

Almost every day there’s whining and complaining about endeavors and this needed to be said. Again.

Elsonso · July 2021

Lumsdenml wrote: »

TequilaFire wrote: »

Apparently killing a guard in a keep counts as a Cyro delve boss. lmao

Right? I went to recapture a resource and killed the first guard and was like, "WHAAAAAAT???"

Oh. That was my problem, then. I was looking for the delve bosses in like, you know, a delve.

Veinblood1965 · July 2021

I did my three endeavors but not the heist one due to not understanding what exactly entails as a heist. Stealing something? Just stealing anything at all? And I feel for the OP there are some I just won't do but thems the breaks.

Iarao · July 2021

Veinblood1965 wrote: »

I did my three endeavors but not the heist one due to not understanding what exactly entails as a heist. Stealing something? Just stealing anything at all? And I feel for the OP there are some I just won't do but thems the breaks.

a heist is part of the theives guild. you have to do prereq quests and then you are give the opportunity to do heists.

CoronHR · July 2021

i do think the OP has a point...so let's say ZOS adds a 6th endeavour. @ZOS_GinaBruno Just make sure that there are at least 3 endeavours that are fully base game. I think an issue might be that if you include 3 base game endeavours, those endeavours might be so easy that players with DLC might avoid the DLC ones to do the base game ones. i don't know...might be hard to balance. i imagine that they're thinking about this issue and trying to iron it out

Iarao · July 2021

luen79rwb17_ESO wrote: »

I tried the "kill Cyrodiil delve boss" just after reset and went to Lipsand Tarn, killed the boss 3 times and the endeavor didnt' register =/

same for me. killed both in lips. who knew that keep guards are delve bosses????

Joy_Division · July 2021

Then do what I did. Skip them for a day. You won;t be punished, admonished, chastised, rebuked, penalized, proscribed, etc., for declining to partake in optional content for a day.

deviousthevile · July 2021

What disturbs me about this system is that it seems only 3 of 5 are able to be done without some sort of paywall, i.e requiring a DLC or chapter.

Now, I am a sucker for pain. I have 4 accounts, and SO FAR, I have done 3 dailies every day. My main account has +, has all the chapters and DLC, so it is no big deal. But the alt accounts are more of a pain. I am willing to do all the content so I am still capable of keeping this pace, I just don't like my choices being limited because I don't want to shell out extra money, crowns or gold to have the choice. Which I know is my own problem, but I am commenting here, not for myself, but for those who have lost faith in ESO, are new or just can't afford to have every single piece of content.

I also understand that this is a free system to get crown crate items, so complaining is a little.... stupid, however I just think it could be structured a bit better. I don't know, now I feel like I'm rambling so the last thing I will say is Happy Hunting to everyone and enjoy your day!

Lugaldu · July 2021

deviousthevile wrote: »

What disturbs me about this system is that it seems only 3 of 5 are able to be done without some sort of paywall, i.e requiring a DLC or chapter.

And of course that's no surprise, after all, players should have an incentive to own all possible chapters/dlc´s. No one can blame a company for creating an incentive to buy their products.

rpa · July 2021

Fyi bout Scraments. Just before logging out (of your DB character), pick up one and enter, kill target and everyone on way, exit and turn it in. Takes like 3min if you are not familiar with layout of the map, less if you are. Then logout to let teh massive bounty vaporise. All the time wasted for stealth and optionals does is bit better quality drop.

Also the Shadow Rider passive is worth killing few hundred citicens.

deviousthevile · July 2021

Lugaldu wrote: »

deviousthevile wrote: »

What disturbs me about this system is that it seems only 3 of 5 are able to be done without some sort of paywall, i.e requiring a DLC or chapter.

And of course that's no surprise, after all, players should have an incentive to own all possible chapters/dlc´s. No one can blame a company for creating an incentive to buy their products.

Definitely no surprise, just kind of disheartening. I will always be the first person to comment when someone mentions something like this. "WHAT?! A company wants you to spend more money with them!? How dare they!"

Morgha_Kul · July 2021

And once again, another day with only two endeavours.

The crafting one is fine, anyone can deconstruct a few rings.
The world boss one is fine, there's always people doing them, but I can solo them no trouble.

I can't do the pickpocket one, I'm not a thief.

I can't do EITHER of the TWO PvP ones, because I don't PvP. Sure, I'm choosing not to do this one, but that's been covered before. I'm not going to go to Cyrodiil to be fodder for someone else's jollies. I play for MY amusement, not theirs.

Disappointing... AGAIN.

SeaGtGruff · July 2021

Repairing keeps requires no PvP.

(1) Go to your alliance base in Cyrodiil.
(2) Check the map to see which keeps your alliance controls, especially the ones that are connected to your alliance base.
(3) Take the transitus shrine to a keep and run around inside the safety of the walls repairing any doors and walls and so on that aren't at full condition.
(4) Take the transitus shrine to the next connected keep and repeat the repair process.
(5) Keep doing that until you earn the endeavor.
(6) If necessary, buy repair kits from the merchant inside the keep.

kinguardian · July 2021

You can pickpocket without the thieves guild dlc.