So, yet another "Instant Research" scroll reward day...

Nemo78 · June 2021

Makes little or no sense to put effort into more then one master crafter.
So, once you have a master crafter, what are you supposed to do with these? 😓
We could have a way to transform these into something else, or at least make them worth some gold so we can sell them to the NPC...

Red_Feather · June 2021

Wish we could convert them into crown gems. I unfortunately have to accept and trash most rewards since I don't use poisons and know all the traits for most crafting professions now so I never need research on those.

Supertonicbaker · June 2021

I tend to destroy most of the rewards. I’ve got no use for them.

alanmatillab16_ESO · June 2021

destroy them and move on, simples.

Nemo78 · June 2021

alanmatillab16_ESO wrote: »

destroy them and move on, simples.

Sure, I can do that, but I'm just saying this is poorly designed and could be improved.
Instead of being rewarded you are punished by having to destroy one item because you no longer need it...

Fischblut · June 2021

I used to destroy all these scrolls for very long time, but then I suddenly thought: "What if someday there will be new trait added for research? Maybe I can save scrolls and not have to waste skill points on my crafter once again (like I had to do when Jewelry crafting was introduced)..." So I collect these research scrolls, just in case.

Mythreindeer · June 2021

DESTROY

Nemo78 · June 2021

Fischblut wrote: »

I used to destroy all these scrolls for very long time, but then I suddenly thought: "What if someday there will be new trait added for research? Maybe I can save scrolls and not have to waste skill points on my crafter once again (like I had to do when Jewelry crafting was introduced)..." So I collect these research scrolls, just in case.

Yes, and it just feels wrong to destroy them, I've been storing them, and I will keep doing so unless for some reason I run out of space...

bmnoble · June 2021

I just keep a storage chest dedicated to stuff from the daily log in rewards.

As for learning the traits on alts just for the hell of it I did it alongside the daily riding lessons on my alts, finished that up around end of February on my 17 alts, getting a decent number of master writs these days to hoard for double XP events or sell on traders.

Just because you not planning on using something right now does not mean you won't change your mind sometime later.

I had thousands of crown tri pots that I had been putting in storage for years I stared using them once they made them equal to crafted potions still haven't exhausted the supply.

RaddlemanNumber7 · June 2021

Useful for getting crafting traits on low-level characters if I want to reconstruct some armour sets for them.

Gythral · June 2021

Isnt every day a DESTROY day???
(with maybe 1 or 2 exceptions)

LalMirchi · June 2021

bmnoble wrote: »

I just keep a storage chest dedicated to stuff from the daily log in rewards.

As for learning the traits on alts just for the hell of it I did it alongside the daily riding lessons on my alts, finished that up around end of February on my 17 alts, getting a decent number of master writs these days to hoard for double XP events or sell on traders.

Just because you not planning on using something right now does not mean you won't change your mind sometime later.

I had thousands of crown tri pots that I had been putting in storage for years I stared using them once they made them equal to crafted potions still haven't exhausted the supply.

I absolutely love the Crown tri pots, always have them on my quick-slot even though I rarely use them as my character is super awesome and wins most fights just by being me.

ApoAlaia · June 2021

This seems to be an unpopular opinion but to me it makes perfect sense to have many grand master crafters; I am up to 8 so far, the increased yield of master writs alone makes up for the 'investment'.

I guess different goals for different players.

iksde · June 2021

CMDR_Un1k0rn wrote: »

Nemo78 wrote: »

alanmatillab16_ESO wrote: »

destroy them and move on, simples.

Sure, I can do that, but I'm just saying this is poorly designed and could be improved.
Instead of being rewarded you are punished by having to destroy one item because you no longer need it...

Punished?

Punished?

Holy hyperbole, Batman. Sure it might be a little inconvenient but calling it a punishment is a bit of a stretch.

Punishment, yikes...

how esle you will name it when you have no a singele use for most of these rewards so you are forced to detroy them to not waste your inventory space only in order to get rewards from last days of month?
you cant get into last rewards without claiming all other trash rewards before

NoxiousBlight · June 2021

I hoard them all and I am saving them.

You never know when ZOS will add additional crafting down the line.

In fact I suspect in a year or so companion armor and traits may become craftable as a "new" feature. Then I will have dozens of research scrolls at the ready.

Nemo78 · June 2021

NoxiousBlight wrote: »

I hoard them all and I am saving them.

You never know when ZOS will add additional crafting down the line.

In fact I suspect in a year or so companion armor and traits may become craftable as a "new" feature. Then I will have dozens of research scrolls at the ready.

I got a feeling that if that happens they will create a "Companion Instant Research", but still won't hurt to hoard them.
Plus, I didn't know about the Storage Chests someone mentioned above, so that makes it a even a lesser problem for me.

ZOS_Volpe · June 2021

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Sylvermynx · June 2021

I'm working toward a second master crafter on each account, both PC megaservers (and a third on NA) - the uptick in master writs is really worth it.

Brrrofski · June 2021

90% of them are useless.

Crown food and drink, Mimic stones and poisons are absolute trash.

XP scrolls and research items are ok for newer players, useless for anyone who's been playing a while.

Alliance points and stones are so little there's no point. Anyone who PVPs earns the entire amount you get in a month in about 10 minutes. It's way too little for non PvP players to even do anything with. Same with gold. Empty your inventory after doing a handful of dailies gives you the same amount.

The 100k gold days are good for a lot of people. Even rich people still enjoy a free 100k.

Yeh, we get some hats or dyes or eyelashes, which some people like so guess they're ok.

The only good things I ever use is tri pots lol.

Nemo78 · June 2021

Sylvermynx wrote: »

I'm working toward a second master crafter on each account, both PC megaservers (and a third on NA) - the uptick in master writs is really worth it.

I'm sorry, I don't get it. Uptick in master writs?
You can do all the master writs on a single character, what do you get from doing them on the character B instead A?

Sylvermynx · June 2021

You get more master writs the more master crafters you have. It's why my "working on crafting" characters also learn motifs my mains already know.

My mains do the master writs, yes - but with other 50s heading toward master crafter, they're getting a lot more writs to do.

redlink1979 · June 2021

Use it on another char or destroy it, your choice.
These, or any other of the daily rewards items, aren't "useless" to everyone.

Nemo78 · June 2021

Sylvermynx wrote: »

You get more master writs the more master crafters you have. It's why my "working on crafting" characters also learn motifs my mains already know.

My mains do the master writs, yes - but with other 50s heading toward master crafter, they're getting a lot more writs to do.

All my alts have their crafting maxed, they just don't research traits or learn motives.
Are you saying that researching traits increases your chances of getting master writs?

Sylvermynx · June 2021

The more traits and motifs your characters know, the more likely they are to get master writs once they hit 50. It doesn't always double the number (though that's happened for me enough that I appreciate it), but I'd say it improves it enough to make it worth the small amount of effort.

Your master crafter can make level 1 weapons/armor for the second crafter to research so it doesn't even have to cost much - though I have LOADS of gear in banks still so most of my secondaries are just researching stuff that's not "great" when it comes to weapons/armor.

Nemo78 · June 2021

Sylvermynx wrote: »

The more traits and motifs your characters know, the more likely they are to get master writs once they hit 50. It doesn't always double the number (though that's happened for me enough that I appreciate it), but I'd say it improves it enough to make it worth the small amount of effort.

Your master crafter can make level 1 weapons/armor for the second crafter to research so it doesn't even have to cost much - though I have LOADS of gear in banks still so most of my secondaries are just researching stuff that's not "great" when it comes to weapons/armor.

Interesting, I had no idea.
Thanks for sharing.

redlink1979 · June 2021

Nemo78 wrote: »

(...)Are you saying that researching traits increases your chances of getting master writs?

Here:

ZOS_Bel_Shezzar wrote: »

Tradeskill mastery (which determines your odds of receiving a master writ from a top tier writ reward box) is meant to imply a long-term dedication to the craft. This varies from tradeskill to tradeskill.

For Blacksmithing, Clothier, and Woodworking, this means motif knowledge and overall completion of trait research. This does not include Crown-exclusive motifs or motifs for the 9 base player races. It focuses on motifs that take some effort to learn – like Xivkyn, or Minotaur, or Celestial.
For Provisioning, this is instead your collection of known purple and gold recipes as they are a strong overall representation of dedication to craft.
With Enchanting, we instead look at the total overall rune word translations you’ve completed on that character.
And with Alchemy, we look at how many reagents from which you’ve completely learned all effects.

Over time, the contributing factors for this may expand as the associated tradeskill mechanics do.

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/3656134#Comment_3656134

kargen27 · June 2021

I started a 2nd account so I could take a character through all the content in the same order I did my first character from the start. The dailies are for the most part appreciated on the new account. With my main account I end up deleting most but that is okay.
I don't mind deleting them because I know how much they can help new players.

JimmyTortellini · June 2021

In terms of gold it's absolutely worth it to have more than 1 master crafter, with your alts at least being high level crafters. What I did was complete master crafter on my main and then go back to my other 13 toons and do all non-nirnhoned research in sync between all alts. I would create 39 items per craft, bank them, and then just do the research while doing daily crafting writs. That is the easiest way to do it but you may need something like CraftStore if you're on PC to make sure you don't get out of sync. The prereqs would be having 9 skill points to allow additional research for the 3 main crafts (none needed for jewelry) and to have your master crafter done so can create trained gear on demand.

Alurria · June 2021

Double post sorry

Alurria · June 2021

Alurria wrote: »

Maybe it would make sense to have a tiered ESO plus. I never used the poisons, I like the trip pots but rarely use them. The instant research is okay but it only takes a day off the research and some research takes 10 days or more. The food I use but I can craft better. Maybe it's time for a overhaul of daily log in rewards.

SilverIce58 · June 2021

Brrrofski wrote: »

90% of them are useless.

Crown food and drink, Mimic stones and poisons are absolute trash.

Mimic stones actually serve a nice, niche purpose in furniture crafting. Out of hackwing plumage, Culanda Lacquer, or Ivory Brigade Clasps, but have a few mimic stones? Just make the items, decon them, and boom new style mats for furnishings.