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Kilt lead farm = disaster
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AlnilamE✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭GaianSpirit wrote: »Hallothiel wrote: »Stop farming everything on day 1, maybe?
I mean ppl need it for tripple prog groups, its not like "oh nice to have" its a must for what you are doing
And you got all the other pieces already? If yes, then Mythics are too easy to acquire.
Seriously, what's going to happen if you don't bother with Shadowfen for 1 week?
Every player just needs to find that lead once, so every time someone finds it, it's one less person that will be crowding the zone.The Moot Councillor5 -
PigofSteel✭✭✭✭So much about anti toxicsm but zos has done right that, creating toxic area in shadowfen for players to fight eachothers to death.6 -
codierussell✭✭✭✭The arteum fishing lead was pretty bad. I remember day one and there were tons of people out fishing. Really though if you have to spend 12 hours farming for the best item in the game I don't see how people are comparing it to other games. Clearly nobody remembers when vma first dropped.0
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mochizx✭✭✭cant agree more, literally saw ppl farming nodes in shadowfen for over 10 hrs, and not able to get a single lead drop. This is beyond rigged.3
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dcmgti✭✭✭cant agree more, literally saw ppl farming nodes in shadowfen for over 10 hrs, and not able to get a single lead drop. This is beyond rigged.
14 hours and I was in Shodowfen when the first few were found lol. Still don't have the lead and every minute of the day people are camped on nodes. Never seen so much toxicity and derogatory name calling in any ESO zone chat before.3 -
Arkew✭✭✭that's gonna be funny if zos nerf kilt into oblivion when the next dlc dungeon be released.10 -
TheForFeeF✭✭✭My biggest gripe with the Tide-Glass lead is that it doesn't engage you in any content at all. The majority of leads force you to play older content, which is healthy for the game. However, with this, you just stand at a node and spam E. People would be happy to grind a delve boss that dropped it 1 out of 100 drops. But this is beyond stupid.
It was the same with the Pale Order ring, and also with the Blackwood Tapestry. Its just pointless and lazy.6 -
Integral1900✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Walked around the swamp to collect surveys, saw many bored and angry people staring into shallow water, watched them do this for quite some time, thought about my day job, looked back at the people staring into water, shrugged, went off to do something interesting
🧐👜Edited by Integral1900 on June 3, 2021 8:14AM14 -
ResidentContrarian✭✭✭✭✭GaianSpirit wrote: »EVERY NODE is occupied. And some ppl will start trying to take others nodes, this causes fights and PPL WANNA MURDER each other.[/b
That says more about the people instead of the node farm mechanic. It also says more about balance. Perhaps the nodes wouldn't be farmed so exclusively if the item were properly balanced in the first place.
Since it's not, this is the end result...
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HertoginJanneke✭✭✭✭Hallothiel wrote: »Stop farming everything on day 1, maybe?
People probably want to use the item before it gets the Thrassian Strangler treatment...
It gets a Thrassian Strangler treatment because of this insane farming for an probably overpowerd item.6 -
Brrrofski✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Hapexamendios wrote: »This is going to be fun on console next week.
Haha, innit.
Think it's time to start spreading misinformation and that this lead drops from water plants in Craglorn or somewhere.
A lot of people don't get info from external source, so 5 days should be enough to make this an actual fact.2 -
NupidStoob✭✭✭✭✭GaianSpirit wrote: »Hallothiel wrote: »Stop farming everything on day 1, maybe?
I mean ppl need it for tripple prog groups, its not like "oh nice to have" its a must for what you are doing
No they don't lol. It's a small benefit, but it's a massive stretch to say that it will make or break a run.4 -
Flamebait✭✭✭GaianSpirit wrote: »Hallothiel wrote: »Stop farming everything on day 1, maybe?
I mean ppl need it for tripple prog groups, its not like "oh nice to have" its a must for what you are doing
And you got all the other pieces already? If yes, then Mythics are too easy to acquire.
Seriously, what's going to happen if you don't bother with Shadowfen for 1 week?
Every player just needs to find that lead once, so every time someone finds it, it's one less person that will be crowding the zone.
You really do underestimate people then. I ran through doing the dolmen quest and there are several people wearing the kilt simply sitting on nodes to make sure others can't get them. This is the result of making things so limited and restricted that it creates the predicted toxic behavior. Honestly I really think the designers hate the players in this game sometimes.6 -
JTD✭✭✭On paper the though of this one lead dropping from water plants/water skins is kinda neat. In the real world its a stupid idea. This lead is not difficult to get, its a long boring RNG fest. And there is nothing you as player can do to infleunce that....
The more I think of it looking at my water hyacint spot....
I'd rather have a good old reputation grind/quest line like in good old WOW. At least I am working towards something visually and feel a sense of completion towards getting it (in the end). Never did mind that in the good old days' #sentimental.Edited by JTD on June 3, 2021 8:52AM2 -
Lady_Galadhiel✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭At least they could have made it drop in more zones from water plants and not only from one,that would give players more chances.Total ESO playtime: 8325 hours
ESO plus status: Cancelled
ESO currently uninstalled.4 -
AlnilamE✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭GaianSpirit wrote: »Hallothiel wrote: »Stop farming everything on day 1, maybe?
I mean ppl need it for tripple prog groups, its not like "oh nice to have" its a must for what you are doing
And you got all the other pieces already? If yes, then Mythics are too easy to acquire.
Seriously, what's going to happen if you don't bother with Shadowfen for 1 week?
Every player just needs to find that lead once, so every time someone finds it, it's one less person that will be crowding the zone.
You really do underestimate people then. I ran through doing the dolmen quest and there are several people wearing the kilt simply sitting on nodes to make sure others can't get them. This is the result of making things so limited and restricted that it creates the predicted toxic behavior. Honestly I really think the designers hate the players in this game sometimes.
Yeah, but not everyone will do that.
Personally, I have more patience than trolls.The Moot Councillor2 -
B0SSzombie✭✭✭✭✭
✭It's amusing to see people say stuff like
"Just wait a few days/weeks, it will die down!"
And yet, Bad Man's Hallows are still the busiest they've been in half a decade. It's like a complete lack of awareness.
I mean, they altered Clockwork City Dailies literally because of this exact same problem, and that DLC came out almost 4 years ago.6 -
Mastercris91✭✭✭
And if they steal your node on purpose, will you just stand by with your patience not looting anything for hours?GaianSpirit wrote: »Hallothiel wrote: »Stop farming everything on day 1, maybe?
I mean ppl need it for tripple prog groups, its not like "oh nice to have" its a must for what you are doing
And you got all the other pieces already? If yes, then Mythics are too easy to acquire.
Seriously, what's going to happen if you don't bother with Shadowfen for 1 week?
Every player just needs to find that lead once, so every time someone finds it, it's one less person that will be crowding the zone.
You really do underestimate people then. I ran through doing the dolmen quest and there are several people wearing the kilt simply sitting on nodes to make sure others can't get them. This is the result of making things so limited and restricted that it creates the predicted toxic behavior. Honestly I really think the designers hate the players in this game sometimes.
Yeah, but not everyone will do that.
Personally, I have more patience than trolls.
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Massive_Stain✭✭✭✭Just dont participate. I know the idea here is to chase BiS gear, but...
not trying to flame but we all experienced this fishing for the lead for stranglers too. remember artaeum and how crowded the holes where? it will die down.PC: CP 1200+ DroDest, Bringer of light
PS4: CP 1500+ Dro Dest, SoTN, Bringer of light, CragHMs, EoF, IR, TTT
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Xebov✭✭✭✭✭
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There is no differenc eif player stay there for 12h on day 1 or 2 or across several days. The problem is that its gear and ppl want to use it and the devs always treat it like some slow moving achievment. The issue is always the same and you can see that the sources are overfarmed for weeks. When Pale Order hit you had the sources overfarmed even 1-2 months after.
[edited to remove quoted content]Edited by ZOS_Ragnar on June 3, 2021 2:15PM1 -
AlnilamE✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Mastercris91 wrote: »
And if they steal your node on purpose, will you just stand by with your patience not looting anything for hours?GaianSpirit wrote: »Hallothiel wrote: »Stop farming everything on day 1, maybe?
I mean ppl need it for tripple prog groups, its not like "oh nice to have" its a must for what you are doing
And you got all the other pieces already? If yes, then Mythics are too easy to acquire.
Seriously, what's going to happen if you don't bother with Shadowfen for 1 week?
Every player just needs to find that lead once, so every time someone finds it, it's one less person that will be crowding the zone.
You really do underestimate people then. I ran through doing the dolmen quest and there are several people wearing the kilt simply sitting on nodes to make sure others can't get them. This is the result of making things so limited and restricted that it creates the predicted toxic behavior. Honestly I really think the designers hate the players in this game sometimes.
Yeah, but not everyone will do that.
Personally, I have more patience than trolls.
First of all, I'm not going to sit at the same node for hours. That's not my thing.
I'll go through the zone doing other stuff, like farming chests, getting surveys, completing the zone on alts, and I'll gather along the way like I always do.
If someone is determined enough to follow me around, then I'll probably just go do something else, since my in-game to-do list is pretty long. I don't need to be affected by other people's determination to troll.The Moot Councillor3 -
Milchbart✭✭✭✭GaianSpirit wrote: »i dont know what evil genius thought about putting one of the leads for the Harpooner Wading kilt on drops from water nodes and water plant nodes.
This is the situation, ppl are spending 12h+ standing on one node and farming it....
Do it like I did .... 5 minutes, 2 plants, got it ....
Oh and did I tell tell you that I had to run Mazzatun just once ?
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khyrkat✭✭✭✭I feel bad. I got leads for this kilt already by pure accident, just doing my usual, normal daily harvesting and stuff, then got Mazzatun from random queue and lead dropped, didn't even know they're that desired. Then read it's rare and ppl are killing for it wtf... I see some bad vibes coming out, I mean come on, it's a game, don't make it your job. Every developer does everything to make players play longer. Usually by lazy design, horrible rng over rng and other things. They're not our friends. Don't make them turn players against players, it's unhealthy.Edited by khyrkat on June 3, 2021 2:13PM2
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B0SSzombie✭✭✭✭✭
✭Massive_Stain wrote: »Just dont participate. I know the idea here is to chase BiS gear, but...
not trying to flame but we all experienced this fishing for the lead for stranglers too. remember artaeum and how crowded the holes where? it will die down.
Chief, people stopped fishing for that lead because that item became next to useless, not because people started getting it.10 -
Ellimist_Entreri✭✭✭What's makes things worse is on PC/NA a certain (un-named & non-shamed here) guild is going around in a group to nodes users are patiently waiting at & placing multiple Totems from Kyne's Aegis on top of nodes people are camping - abusing and exploiting the fact that the Totems Interaction Volume is larger than & supersedes the Interaction Trigger for the nodes in order to grief users away from their spots. I suggest anyone encountering this to record the incident and submit a support ticket - this kind of blatant ToS violation and the trash performing it need to be handled. Let's get this trash out of our Swamp!Edited by Ellimist_Entreri on June 3, 2021 6:22PM7 -
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Ryath_Waylander✭✭✭✭✭
✭So I strolled through the madness that is shadowfen at the moment. I'm just curious on what are people basing their belief on, that this lead only drops from shadowfen. Is it mentioned somewhere? I'm asking because there was a lead that apparently only dropped from Rift Mammoths after the Greymoor release but a week later I picked it up from a timber mammoth in Malabal Tor. Has anyone tried farming another province?1 -
DjMuscleboy02✭✭✭✭✭Ryath_Waylander wrote: »So I strolled through the madness that is shadowfen at the moment. I'm just curious on what are people basing their belief on, that this lead only drops from shadowfen. Is it mentioned somewhere? I'm asking because there was a lead that apparently only dropped from Rift Mammoths after the Greymoor release but a week later I picked it up from a timber mammoth in Malabal Tor. Has anyone tried farming another province?
As much as I would love to hope that it's not limited to one zone, it took me ~11h to get it from Shadowfen. I don't think anyone is particularly keen on spending so much time in other zones only to not be able to tell whether it's not there or they have bad luck.Brodor - PC NA - ESO's only pure bodybuilding guild
Hodor, but stronger2