Can OP please put [resolved] in the thread title so people see that there's been an answer?

Moroch wrote: »

Can OP please put [resolved] in the thread title so people see that there's been an answer?

No need - if you see green, you know it's been seen.

I just bought some motifs in wayrest
Notice that some players keep selling them too so now I wonder if they somehow exploit it.But as a buyer there is no sure way to know that

Those worrying about a nerf, worry no longer, it happened.

Funny thing is, anyone complaining here about motifs didn't realize that those same containers were the only real way to acquire recipes for provisioning. And now, good luck completing just your faction's complete recipe list. It was a major pain doing it prior to this nerf. Sure, most of them are useless anyway, but there are many, like myself, that take pleasure in having all the known recipes in the game.

Even those that wish to only find some certain recipes, again I say good luck. Blue and purple recipes were already considerably more rare than motifs. Now? Well suffice to say seeing them pop up in trade chat will be a very rare thing indeed.

Once again, those that whined the loudest have been pandered to, and hurt a much larger overall community than just those that wanted to farm motifs. Prices will rise on both motifs AND recipes, though I'm sure we'll have many posts from the same people in this thread groaning about the issue they helped form.

Also, congrats on making it harder for newer players. Those that did the motif trick are most likely sitting on large amounts of them, including veteran content motifs. And when prices rise, they'll make a much larger profit than they would have prior to this. Nothing was fixed, those that wanted all the motifs, have them. This trick being nerfed only impacts new players, and will in turn spawn more threads like this but going in the opposite direction.

To both the majority of posters in this thread and the devs that thought a blanket fix was a good idea: what the heck? It's always one extreme or the other, find a proper middle ground solution and work it out properly.

To clarify: I don't care much about motifs being nerfed, but a complete nerf across all containers having contents or not? Each provisioning tier has a minimum of 12 green and 12 blue recipes, and once you level it a bit, 6 purple on top of that. Making motifs more rare from containers is one thing, making containers close to useless for all purposes is another.

Hmm. Have they already done a "nerf"? Haven't noticed any difference in what I am getting, and no more empty containers than before.

Spectral_Lord wrote: »

redwoodtreesprite wrote: »

Hmm. Have they already done a "nerf"? Haven't noticed any difference in what I am getting, and no more empty containers than before.

I don't think so. I doubt it's a priority right now, anyway.

Sigh, just looked at the patch notes on that test server thing. Yup, ALL recipes from containers are being reduced.

My suspicion is that the ones who rabidly were pushing for this are the ones who have bunches stockpiled. But ah well...

Wouldn't it be easier to befriend a few people and trade Motifs? I have two extra Bosmer and an Extra Orsimer books I have saved.

I dont think motif farming would exist if the rare ones were sold for a reasonable price

If you are a crafter and looking for my tips on how to use this new info that using the relog exploit (my opinion) I posted it in the crafting forum.

Saves you tons and tons of time and gold when leveling your crafting alts.

The problem with these games is that people that figure out the exploits always get ahead and usually don't want to share the wealth.

http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/87911/my-best-crafting-tip-for-you#latest

Sakiri wrote: »

redwoodtreesprite wrote: »

Sakiri wrote: »

htoncic wrote: »

Judging from what I've seen on these forums, simply playing the game can be seen as a bannable offense. People get so dramatic over non-issues...

redwoodtreesprite wrote: »

Spectral_Lord wrote: »

redwoodtreesprite wrote: »

Hmm. Have they already done a "nerf"? Haven't noticed any difference in what I am getting, and no more empty containers than before.

I don't think so. I doubt it's a priority right now, anyway.

Sigh, just looked at the patch notes on that test server thing. Yup, ALL recipes from containers are being reduced.

My suspicion is that the ones who rabidly were pushing for this are the ones who have bunches stockpiled. But ah well...

Test server?

PTS Test Server.

Im unaware of a pts test server or notes for it.

http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/87867/patch-notes-v-1-1-inc-craglorn-from-pts#latest

Well, having tried the logon/logoff quite a few times in different locations now, it indeed seems looting containers serves absolutly no purpose whatsoever now... Yes, great fix .

Aside from low level provisioning, and some crafting materials, I got next to nothing worth any inventory space, if that's how the game is heading for crafting, not really the brightest decision made so far...

Considering the amount of crafte and interactable I looted, and the negligeable amount of valuable stuff looted, I came to the conclusion that looting, both normal mobs and containers is now completly useless and worthless, I mean, it is not even worth farming anything now :S.

I love the story to death, and I have been enjoying the game, mostly until I reached VT anyway. I've been trying to keep my crafting on par with my level, which seems virtually impossible these days. I can't remember the last time I looted a rune, and since it is VT maps, and I can not find anyone to do anything with, I doubt we have ressources being looted like hell... Runes just don't seem to be there now :S.

I'm patient and understanding, it is a new MMO, it has flaw, fine. However, I'm about to reconsider sticking around. At the moment, I'm not enjoying this at all. Dying all the time, no ressources to speak of , and having to look thru 100 times more the containers for anything worth anything? Sorry, but that's not what I was promised during the hype time of the game. I was promised play as you want, and epic battles and stories.

Stories, well, it's mostly achived, so fine. For the rest however, can do better... a lot better. I'll lowered the multiple month sub, to a one month one though, my confidence is Zeni is lowering quite quickly, and it does sadden me .

edit: and after typing this I get a racia motif: ancient Elf *chuckles* the irony of this is staggering

This design behind this kind of "pvp" in a themepark game, is just as stupid as stupid can be.

OP: I do it. I do it as the game has designed me to do it.

My inventory gets full. I switch to a "bank character" so I can have space in my real bank. As any player would do I check the chests in the area with my character. Then I log onto my next bank character, repeat. I have 4 different bank characters.

I do this as needed for my bank to stay clear. I don't do it for the "exploit" I don't spend all day switching characters, but I'll be damned if checking boxes with a character when I log in gets me banned. They can ban me and ZOS can go screw themselves for making me have 4 bank characters in the first place.

steven_shidiwenb16_ESO wrote: »

Send me some of that Motif love @Moroch

Moroch wrote: »

steven_shidiwenb16_ESO wrote: »

Send me some of that Motif love @Moroch

Isn't there a problem with the color variations of these in the veteran gear all Daedric, primal, barbaric coming out green or so I had been reading. If that is the case.........lol I would not pay 2 gold for one till it is fixed. The lower end armors look just find to me