To those that are making statements regarding "too little, too late" have obviously never played a game at launch. Even the biggest MMO out there had such glaring issues for the first 3 months that the game was unplayable for many people. Database issues that caused players to get locked in the loot position requiring you to /quit out of the game to get back in and be able to go about killing things (they had all of the databases for the individual servers housed on one machine and it caused them to crash constantly), it took the developers close to 3 months to make it where the game was playable on a massive scale. Prior to that, everquest had such glaring issues with release that they actually gave a majority of players free game time for the troubles, and that was mainly just login issues because it was one of the first games to have hundreds of thousands of players on simultaneously, which they actually weren't prepared for.

Fast forward through nearly every MMO that has come out since (and to the ones in the future), each game is going to have issues, especially once they actually get released. NO game that is released is ever 100% bug free, which is why they patch them. People out there that want cheats and hacks will do everything they can to find erroneous code and loopholes in the clients to take advantage of and people will write programs, scripts and or make trainers that allow for the client to be modified, allowing players of the games to do things they otherwise wouldn't be able to do. This brings me to my next point...

Gold Farmers, Gold Sellers and BOTS. These are going to exist in some capacity, regardless of how hyper-vigilant the gaming companies are. There is a huge multi-billion dollar industry in selling of game currency. It exists in every MMO, to some degree, and will continue to exist, as long as these companies have a client base to sell them the gold, a way to farm the gold and people willing to pay real-world currency for in-game assets. The only way to end the gold farmers, spammers and BOTS is to end their ability to make money. The only way to do this is to ban all accounts caught doing business with these companies, of which there are thousands. The problem with doing that is that it will cause problems for the game developers and companies as they will lose the revenue these accounts provide. The fact that this game is pay to play, costs $60.00 retail to purchase and $15.00 monthly kinda makes me believe that the gold farming companies are either making (or expecting to make) a lot of money off this game, or when the game play begins requiring payment to play it, a lot of it will taper off.

ESO has been out for 3 weeks (for those of us who had early access), and is still in its infancy, as far as MMOs are concerned, with veteran games that are still running celebrating 15 years and, in some cases 18 years (Sierra's "The Realm" and Meridian 59 are both 18 years old this year. Everquest celebrated 15 in March, and both World of Warcraft and EverQuest II celebrate 10 years this upcoming November. Every game that I've played (some I continue to play) still have issues on occasion, and when they happen, the players provide feedback, bug reports and help the developers to fix them. Any time they patch something in a game or make changes on the server or client end, they have the risk of other things becoming broken or bugged, so it's a neverending process.


In closing, if you're stating that the game is failing, will fail or otherwise just complaining that the game has issues, give them some time to work on things. Provide constructive feedback and report bugs as you find them, and help the game developers actually fix things, instead of doomsaying and/or just generally making yourself look like a complete idiot by thinking that the game should be100% polished and bug free less than a month into release. Yes, they had beta tests, stress tests and a long time to work on it, but until people out there don't try to subvert the system and cheat, there will never be a 100% polished game out there. Some people want the easy road to "win" a game that's supposed to be played for entertainment. Those are the ones that cause a majority of the problems for gaming companies.

Cheers for the update & good luck with your quest to ban all the spammers & campers.

Great game & beautiful looking world. I love exploring & PVE.....
but 90% of my game time seems to be inventory control & that is dead boring

Not sure if this will even be seen...maybe it's the alcohol speaking but...I think maybe you should add some clause in the EULA that if your account is found guilty of such illegal activities such as farming gold for sale or gold spamming (put this into whatever legal terminology you must) that they are subject to pay fines in excess of $10,000...if it's in the EULA and they agree to it, and their activities are blatantly in violation of it...you have reasonable cause to pursue the fine/suit. This would make it a non-profitable venture to farm and sell gold in this game, assuming you follow through.

Thanks for the update!! I noticed the huge drop in bots and spammers too today; something y'all are doing is working...! Anyways, good luck with everything you're workin on and thanks for your hard work, Zenimax.

Loviotor wrote: »

To those that are making statements regarding "too little, too late" have obviously never played a game at launch. .

I don't care if selling beta code for customers to test is industry practice. Besides, the gold seller and bot problems come from the game design. They left the doors and windows open and put warm milk and cookies out.

Now they are belatedly scrambling to mitigate the impact of these original decisions.

The better option would have been to design the game not to provide an infinite and effortless flow of bottable wealth in the first place.

This is a great game, or will be once bots are gone.

Please fix the large raid group crashing bug for PvP. It makes it so hard to play with Guild members. And marking a leader would be really usefull as it really hard to follow a leader in PvP. Basic stuff we should have. Thx

not sure where the appropriate thread would be for this, but i hope a dev see this. i, along with no doubt many adamant raiders and serious pvp'ers, would like the option to choose between abilities on the action bar to activate on button press, instead of the current default of button release. it may not seem like a large concern, but i know it would make a significant difference in our play styles.

look at gw2 kill the boss good drop next time poor drop hardly any xp that works

laced wrote: »

And not a peep on the EU servers actually being MOVED TO THE EU?! Really disheartening.....

Not disheartening at all, I have no 'latency' problems playing from Europe and I much prefer the servers being local to ZOS until the current set of problems is sorted out.

As usual, people are fixated on 'ping' times and blame everything on that, I see very, very few 'lags' situations and those I do are patently server-side and not due to the wire between they and me.

@ZOS_MattFiror‌

Please know that those of us that have been around for a bit know and can relate to your issues. We will -still- be here, subbed, posterior to this launch month.

Please also know that our previous gaming experiences (while the cause of plenty a shout in these forums) are also a goldpile. IF taken advantage of. We support you. We remain. Give us a Bug subthread, give us a Feedback subthread. We will use it.

Thank you for the non formal, non self-entitled tone of your letter. It is much appreciated

A FEW SUGGESTIONS:

1.) Gold Spam Issues. There probably is legal precedent for ESO to pursue said websites advertising gold for cash. Also, algorithmic detection of Gold Resellers on Chat based primarily on posts per minute and blacklisted words. UNLESS, it might be easier to Sell Gold via ESO website. Much like purchasing Palomino Horse or Imperial Edition. Thus getting rid of eso gold resellers. (players would much rather pay eso for genuine product vs third party illegal goods)

2.) Customer Service & Emails. Today I finally received my invitation code for the forums. Going through current customer service platform was hell. The only way I got my invitation code was to have you guys finally call me. (emails were returned to sender) I suggest upon purchase and register for primary eso, forums account is activated using the same credentials. Also, your current customer service platform has to be changed. Something more along the lines of "Desk" could work.

Thanks for the statement

I'm bothered that you made no mention of the biggest issue with PvE that happens across the board... Phasing. Grouping is highly discouraged in this game with the way the phasing works. I would like to hear something from the Devs on this. Is this working as intended? Did you intend for this to be played mostly solo?

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TGEK wrote: »

keondre.branchcub18_ESO wrote: »

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Forums being dead is the biggest shock to me.

I usually spend quite a lot of time on forums for a game I'm really into, but ESO's forums have never appealed to me since I first saw them back in September. I have transferred my time to Reddit as the format works well and a lot of people post interesting topics. I would however support these forums if they did a revamp to the format and hopefully more players would follow.

Also I found this thread via Reddit. Js!

Yeah you cannot find ANYTHING on these forums. I usually only come here to click service alerts and then head to Tamriel Foundry for their superb forums. Not to mention when the server goes down...threads pop up almost instantly giving insight of why it went down...Come to the forums here to find out? /crickets
Nothing...nada.

These forums are quit a joke indeed.

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